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MikeM3Power
Original Poster
152 posts
35 months
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Hey there
Thinking about going for something big next year, as bit bored of my current car.
The CLK500 and 55 caught my eye as well as the M3 (which ive wanted forever)
The M3 was the clear favorite until I drove a new S350 and the level of comfort and refinement was amazing.
Been looking more at the 500 and 55, seems to have a good mix of comfort, refinement, gadgets and performance.
My question is, how good are these cars, how is the 500? how is the CLK55?
Any experiences? Petrol?
Thanks
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Sir Snaz
317 posts
55 months
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I have had my clk 55amg for about 8 months now .......I bought it as a stop gap ......but am now keeping it :-) ....a very underated, and under the radar motor......and at current prices an absolute steal!!
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kevinpsw
54 posts
67 months
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I had a CLK500 for almost 4 years. It was a 04 306bhp. It was a nice car that gave me little expense at the garage beyond servicing. I believe there was a later version of the 500 with more power but there won't have been many sold. I never drove a CLK AMG but I do have a CLS AMG now and it is a very different car from the CLS 500.
The CLK 500 is comfortable and will do 0-60 in less than 6 seconds but it is not sporty by any means. If you want something like but different from an M3, it will have to be the 55 AMG.
The price differential (500 vs 55) nowadays could be less than £3k so, for me, it would have to be the AMG. Running costs will of course be higher.
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MikeM3Power
Original Poster
152 posts
35 months
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Brilliant.
Sounds good and that they dont have big issues.
Whats the petrol like? I mean a 5 litre engine or 5.4 isnt exactly small so would be interesting to know the score on it.
The prices right now are very tempting, especially the clk55 amg.
Any more information about them? Thanks!
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MikeM3Power
Original Poster
152 posts
35 months
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Is the 55 amg an M3 comparison?
Where would the 500 fall? Would its comparison be say a 330?
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Sir Snaz
317 posts
55 months
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The things that could potentially cause you issues on the 55 are the Torque converter, and possibly electrics. My car had its TC replaced before I bought it (think the cost was about £1800), and I have just had to have some electrical gremlins sorted out (costing about £300 to fix). Do remember that the 55 will cost a bit more to maintain than your bog standard merc......for instance it has 16 (yes 16!!) spark plugs that need to be replaced every 4 years at least ...this on its own is about £400. Some of the earlier models had issues with the gear box due to a small problem with radiators leaking water and antifreeze into the gearbox oil, although this is v rare. Also, on any test drive, listen out for 'ticking' behind the center consol on start up ....this could be a problem with the aircon unit, which is a difficult, and expensive, fix.....of the 4 cars I looked at, 2 had this issue. I have found the ride to be firm yet refined (and thats running around on London roads) but more than adequate to cope with chucking it around some fun B roads now and again;). It may not be as mental on the edge as an M3, but is sooooo torquey (is that even a word?) that in everyday situations it comes up trumps, and does 0-60 in under 5 if that sort of thing matters to you. I get about 20mpg in mine, that does drop to about 16 if your having fun though ....and do use the best petrol you can find. I think this is one of the best kept secret performance cars out there ....and rare as hens teeth too (only 217 W209 55amgs in the country). If you need any more info....let me know
snaz
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MikeM3Power
Original Poster
152 posts
35 months
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Thanks Snaz, are these the main things to watch out for?
16 spark plugs, wow! lol. Is the torque convertor something that ideally you want done before you have the car brought? Bit like an M3 SMG where you really want the pump done before you buy.
How does the 500 compare to the 55? Is there a world of difference?
A friend of mine has a SL500 so was wondering if the CLK500 is comparable to that.
20mpg around London isnt too bad considering you have 5.4 engine under the bonnet, which will obviously rise if riven nicely on a motorway.
Thanks.
(I actually downloaded a pdf of the manual of the 500/55 and its huge!!!, makes the M3 one look so basic)
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SFO
2,593 posts
52 months
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16 plugs can be done for much less than £400 at an independent .. plugs alone are about £100.
the 5.4 litre engine is pretty robust, as it's not a highly stressed engine. Not many (if any) reports of them going seriously wrong.
the 5 speed auto gearbox is also robust, provided it has had a filter and oil change at least every 50k miles. It goes wrong, but not a common fault.
the 7 speed on the 209 was newer, and again does not have common known faults.
I had a 208 CLK55 (I have had a CLS55 for about 2.5 years) for about 3.5 years. In that time, I did about 35k miles, and apart from standard maintenance (oil change etc), only one of the motors of the passenger seat and a door seal needed replacing. Stunning machine. I could drive to Cornwall at high average speeds from London, and it would still do about 26 mpg.
One of the best cars I have ever had. Fast, stealth and with lovely grunt.
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MikeM3Power
Original Poster
152 posts
35 months
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Great replies guys. Sounds like a really robust car.
26mpg on a motorway not great but then again you dont buy a 5.4 litre engine and expect the fuel to be great. It does seem better then say the S4 which im told averages around 18mpg around town.
Is the CLK 500 actually worth it or is the jump to CLK 55 better?
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SFO
2,593 posts
52 months
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MikeM3Power said: Is the CLK 500 actually worth it or is the jump to CLK 55 better? 55 every time .. AMG has better brakes, more power and torque, more sporty suspension (but which is still compliant) and a more responsive gearbox, plus much better seats. Oh, sounds a lot better too.
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Sir Snaz
317 posts
55 months
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agreed....and at current prices you cant really go wrong .....bought my 53 w209 with 60k miles on for under 9k!!...do it...you know it makes sense 
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AC43
1,963 posts
77 months
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When comparing 500's with 55's you do have to be clear which 500 you're talking about.
The earlier one was a 5.0 with just over 300bhp and 340-something lb/ft. The later one is a 5.4 with something like 380/380. And better fuel economy.
I have the 5.0 in my E Class and it's swift. Mate of mine had the 5.4 in his CLS and it's fast. The 5.5 AMG is faster still.
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AC43
1,963 posts
77 months
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MikeM3Power said: Great replies guys. Sounds like a really robust car.
26mpg on a motorway not great but then again you dont buy a 5.4 litre engine and expect the fuel to be great. It does seem better then say the S4 which im told averages around 18mpg around town. I'd expect high 20's from the 5.4 on the motorway. My older 5.0 (E Class) does mid 20's on the motorway in normal conditions. Round town mid-high teens from the 5.0 and high teens to low 20's from the 5.4. Don't know about the AMG figures - similar to the 5.0 I'd guess.
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MikeM3Power
Original Poster
152 posts
35 months
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Thanks for the answers and information.
Keep them coming.
The CLK500 I am talking about would be the 5.0 one, with the 306hp engine. Not the latter 5.4 one badged CLK500.
So basically its hands down CLK55 AMG then?
Does convertible make a difference?
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chris333
622 posts
108 months
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The M113 5litre engine is also 2 plugs per cylinder: so also has 16 spark plugs
I have this engine in my R129 SL and get low 20s mpg around town, and have managed nearly 30 on a run. Its a very smooth engine but very much focussed at refinement. Sometimes I think a little bit more exhaust note would be good, which of course is where the 55 comes in...
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AC43
1,963 posts
77 months
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MikeM3Power said: The CLK500 I am talking about would be the 5.0 one, with the 306hp engine. Not the latter 5.4 one badged CLK500.
So basically its hands down CLK55 AMG then? As Chris333 says the 5.0 would be turbine smooth (which is good) and virtually silent (which may not be what you are after). The 55 would have a much louder bark. I had a couple of C43's before my 5.0 E Class and AMG had fettled the cams, airbox and exhaust on that version of the 4.3 V8 and it was much more tuneful when given the beans. And I assume the CLK 55 would have lower and stiffer suspension, bigger brakes, etc.
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MikeM3Power
Original Poster
152 posts
35 months
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AC43 said: As Chris333 says the 5.0 would be turbine smooth (which is good) and virtually silent (which may not be what you are after).
The 55 would have a much louder bark. I had a couple of C43's before my 5.0 E Class and AMG had fettled the cams, airbox and exhaust on that version of the 4.3 V8 and it was much more tuneful when given the beans.
And I assume the CLK 55 would have lower and stiffer suspension, bigger brakes, etc. Virtually silent is good, I assume the V8 gives it a little note. I drove the S350 the other week and I quite liked the silent grunt of the V6 in that. Although tuneful is always good  . Still very undecided, got a bit of time to decide what I want but I like to do my research early. And where better to go than the actual owners. Will i be underwhelmed if I go for a CLK500?
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Sir Snaz
317 posts
55 months
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MikeM3Power said: Will i be underwhelmed if I go for a CLK500? only if you drive the 55 first 
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kevinpsw
54 posts
67 months
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MikeM3 Power - Perhaps you have already seen this: http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/4031785.htmIf I hadn't already gone for the CLS AMG route, I might have saved myself a fortune and gone for a more modest upgrade to the CLK500I had. If this car is as described, it is a bargain. Go see.....
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MikeM3Power
Original Poster
152 posts
35 months
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WOW
What a car!! Im a bit off buying one yet but that is a crazy bargain!
Already done insurance quote and its looking good, although its cheaper with convertible. Not sure why, same with M3. Good couple hundred cheaper.
Most M3 owners say the coupe M3 over the M3 convertible, is this the same? Or are they equal?
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