Quaifing the C63
Discussion
A bit more of an update now its had a few days of use.
Totally silent and no whine like you get with the M-diff in the M5 / M3. Or with Pork or GTR's.
Car doesn't squirm at all now when pulling away with full WOT. Its dead straight and feels fully planted. Can't feel any power loss either so TC mustn't be grafting too much now.
Havnt seen the traction light on tight corners or under hard acceleration since fitted. Not had TC fully off yet to test the break point. Will do this weekend.
Car feels a lot more planted on the road and no longer tramlines or hunts the grooves in the road. Generally feels less 'floaty' at speed.
Oddly, it doesnt feel as loose / doesnt feel as rattly with regard to suspension or steering. Before hand it had that C63-esque disconnection between the driver and the steering / wheels that we all notice. Now it feels very much firmly connected. Could this be to do with the LSD?
Not sure if its quicker as ive not got a V-box to test it with but im pretty sure off the mark its better at getting away cleanly. Thus probably a few 10ths quicker.
Doesnt suffer unwanted lateral movement when hard accelerating across lanes / over the white lines. It used to squirm a little at the rear when crossing lanes under WOT but now it doesnt. Feels safer and more confident.
Generally feels better.
Its not a huge difference made to the car but, not like getting into a Ferrari after driving a Lada. The little bits here and there do add to up to be something quite noticeable. For those who don't have an LSD I'd say its something to consider due to it feeling a better, more capable car, but its not life changing given the standard car is still pretty good. For those with an OEM diff it'd be interesting to do a comparison test. Pre-FL PP+ with OEM LSD vs Pre FL-PP+ with Quiafe anyone?
Totally silent and no whine like you get with the M-diff in the M5 / M3. Or with Pork or GTR's.
Car doesn't squirm at all now when pulling away with full WOT. Its dead straight and feels fully planted. Can't feel any power loss either so TC mustn't be grafting too much now.
Havnt seen the traction light on tight corners or under hard acceleration since fitted. Not had TC fully off yet to test the break point. Will do this weekend.
Car feels a lot more planted on the road and no longer tramlines or hunts the grooves in the road. Generally feels less 'floaty' at speed.
Oddly, it doesnt feel as loose / doesnt feel as rattly with regard to suspension or steering. Before hand it had that C63-esque disconnection between the driver and the steering / wheels that we all notice. Now it feels very much firmly connected. Could this be to do with the LSD?
Not sure if its quicker as ive not got a V-box to test it with but im pretty sure off the mark its better at getting away cleanly. Thus probably a few 10ths quicker.
Doesnt suffer unwanted lateral movement when hard accelerating across lanes / over the white lines. It used to squirm a little at the rear when crossing lanes under WOT but now it doesnt. Feels safer and more confident.
Generally feels better.
Its not a huge difference made to the car but, not like getting into a Ferrari after driving a Lada. The little bits here and there do add to up to be something quite noticeable. For those who don't have an LSD I'd say its something to consider due to it feeling a better, more capable car, but its not life changing given the standard car is still pretty good. For those with an OEM diff it'd be interesting to do a comparison test. Pre-FL PP+ with OEM LSD vs Pre FL-PP+ with Quiafe anyone?
PhantomAMG said:
Personal opinion is the diff is well worth it. Didn't have one in my last c63 and do in this one. Granted you only really notice the difference when pushing on, but in these cars that is all to easy to do! Especially with the extra power I am running..
Out of interest, is it a Factory fitted or after market diff PhantomAMG?I imagine the noticeable difference to be the transition to oversteer, in that without diff the car will use its traction control to emulate a diff (as merc claim on a non LSD c63) before it slides, however in reality you feel the sometimes jerky transition to oversteer. However if the diff is locking I would imagine the transition to be farm smoother to oversteer and then return to traction more smooth progressive also.
Would you agree ecain.
For info I have the same model as yours without LSD and am debating the upgrade.
Ay further update on how you are finding it?
Would you agree ecain.
For info I have the same model as yours without LSD and am debating the upgrade.
Ay further update on how you are finding it?
Yup, I fully agree with that. It is more progressive on the slide and generally feels more planted. In a way the car feels heavier, but not in a sluggish or negative way, more that it feels solid and predictable. As a result the car I'm sure is a tad quicker point to point and I feel much more able to chuck it round the bends without worrying about the traction control reigning me in prematurely.
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