Anyone ordered an AMG GT-S yet?

Anyone ordered an AMG GT-S yet?

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Pdelamare

659 posts

127 months

Thursday 6th August 2015
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You could have turned all the assists off. Did you try that first?

m2m

24 posts

108 months

Thursday 6th August 2015
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Anjum said:
Sadly - my car has gone. Lovely looking car - and has the makings of a great car.......

But I could't get on with all of the nannying - maybe it was because of the spec of my car - I only drove it for 150 miles......

The deal breaker for me was when I was coming back from the M4 into London. Traffic relatively light - I was coming off the flyover (A4) - and wanted to pull over into the left hand lane - the was no traffic whilst I did this - and the car lit up all warning lights (Lane assist) - and I could feel the pre-braking coming on - and then the power just kind of died? Very weird. Anyway - the constant talking from car to HQ also left me somewhat cold.

Anyway - decided that I liked a CL65 - which has been DMS tweaked! I love it! It behave like a Merc should - wafting around imperriosly - with a real sting in it's tail to boot! And whilst receiving a massage! I think this car sums up MB for me - and doesn't have the same level of nannying or BigBro comms to HQ!

How would I assess my short time with the GT-S? It has the makings of a great car - the chassis looks pretty impressive - I wasn't a fan of the steering - but to be honest I didn't have it long enough to form an opinion. What could be better? Put the normally aspirated 6.2 V8 back in!
lol, after all that huffing and puffing. CL65 like you said is a different car, that has more assists than the GT-S. So I don't get that. Good luck and let us know how you get on.

To be honest I'm loving the Edition 1 GTS I have, and I have not been distracted by said issues, and as far as I can see neither has the majority of the Private lounge members that drive their cars very hard and already have their Weistec upgrades. For hard driving can turn off those bugs bears in the menu system

The engine sounds great and combined with the DSG transmission in this car and is miles ahead of the M157 and MCT in my eyes.

Out of curiosity are you taking much of a hit?

DJRC

23,563 posts

235 months

Thursday 6th August 2015
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More like a £15k profit I would suspect!

GTer

73 posts

112 months

Thursday 6th August 2015
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150 miles....before its run in.....well you gave it a really good chance anyway. Lol.

Palmball

1,267 posts

173 months

Friday 7th August 2015
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I can relate to buying a car and almost immediately not liking it - happened to me with a new M3 last year and quite frankly, it wasn't so much that things were wrong with it (atrocious sound excepted) but more my expectations were in a different place. I did give it 3k miles though wink

But I suspect that after 150 miles this is nothing to do with any of the driver aids (as has been said, they are easily deactivated which I suspect you were aware of) or indeed anything wrong with the car. This was always inevitable with the GT for you Anjum. Firstly, you were getting far too annoyed with the process before you got it which very obviously tainted the whole experience. Secondly and more importantly, you were buying this as a sports car (because that is all it is) when you already had that category covered with probably some of the finiest money-no-object sports cars in the world. A bit like buying an apartment by the seaside in Skegness when you already have a villa in Nice....the GT stood no chance when you already have something like a 458 Speciale.

In the CL65 you now have something totally different which I assume can't really be compared to anything else you own and there's very little in existence (at any price) that does all the good things about it any better. It's great you're happy with it - did you not fancy the new S65 coupe?

Bieldside

583 posts

198 months

Friday 7th August 2015
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Interesting to read about the CL65

I have toyed with the idea and then rejected it in favour of a very low miles CL63 AMG

I have a 991 GT3 so a contrasting experience really appeals

Anjum

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1,605 posts

283 months

Friday 7th August 2015
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Palmball said:
I can relate to buying a car and almost immediately not liking it - happened to me with a new M3 last year and quite frankly, it wasn't so much that things were wrong with it (atrocious sound excepted) but more my expectations were in a different place. I did give it 3k miles though wink

But I suspect that after 150 miles this is nothing to do with any of the driver aids (as has been said, they are easily deactivated which I suspect you were aware of) or indeed anything wrong with the car. This was always inevitable with the GT for you Anjum. Firstly, you were getting far too annoyed with the process before you got it which very obviously tainted the whole experience. Secondly and more importantly, you were buying this as a sports car (because that is all it is) when you already had that category covered with probably some of the finiest money-no-object sports cars in the world. A bit like buying an apartment by the seaside in Skegness when you already have a villa in Nice....the GT stood no chance when you already have something like a 458 Speciale.

In the CL65 you now have something totally different which I assume can't really be compared to anything else you own and there's very little in existence (at any price) that does all the good things about it any better. It's great you're happy with it - did you not fancy the new S65 coupe?
Palmball - I buy a quite a few cars a year - every year! Mostly much more sporty than the GT-S - agreed - but this was bought a daily driver - I don't really class the GT-S as a Sports car - more of a GT. When the black series GT-S (with the normally aspirated 6.2 V8) is out - then I'm sure that will be corrected....And you're right - the GT-S had no chance with some of the other toys that I have.

I did turn everything off as per the manual - but this didn't actually turn everything off. For sure, I could have got used to it - turn the car on - spend 2 minutes getting the car set up right - then ready to trot - but what I really couldn't get on with is the fact that the car is constantly talking to MB HQ - like it or not - and you cannot disable this feature. You get it as part of MercedesMe. That is the reason why I didn't go for S-Class Coupe - it has the same feature. Apparently so do BMW's and Audi's - so whilst its not uncommon - it's the first time that I have come across this.

With regards to he whole experience - I'm over that - But I really think that MB are someway off from where they were in the 70's and 80's for customer experience - and having spent some time with MB Chelsea - I can now see that they were kept in the dark as much as I was.

Anyway - I hope you all enjoy your cars - because they are fundamentally sounds cars - but just need some more power - and less nannying!

amg master

625 posts

194 months

Friday 7th August 2015
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Does'nt the mercedes me have to be subscribed to. I don't think it's activated until you subscribe to it.
Do any of you who have the gts find the steering become very light at speed?

Palmball

1,267 posts

173 months

Friday 7th August 2015
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Correct, you have to subscribe. I've just bought the GLE63 and it's not activated yet. I believe the car still 'communicates' without a subscription (e.g. for the SOS function) but I can't see how it's in anyway noticeable - this feature's been on BMW's for years and I've never found it obtrusive.

The steering in the GT is VERY light, too light. It's one thing I'd change as it could do with a touch less assistance but you do get used to it - I didn't notice it after a couple of hours driving it.

DJRC

23,563 posts

235 months

Friday 7th August 2015
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Now you see if someone had said they drove the car for a cpl of hundred miles and needed to sell it because they couldn't stand the uber light steering *that* I could accept as a fully viable reason. The Sagaris had very light steering and it was the one damn thing I loathed about, its infected my thinking on such things ever since.

Anjum

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1,605 posts

283 months

Friday 7th August 2015
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amg master said:
Does'nt the mercedes me have to be subscribed to. I don't think it's activated until you subscribe to it.
Do any of you who have the gts find the steering become very light at speed?
It transmits data even if you don't subscribe. It transmits continuously and stores the last 20 minutes on the hard drive in the car. There is all kinds of data that is sent even when you don't activate, I'm afraid. Talk to your dealer - and they'll all get very sheepish about what it does, they get excited about Geo-locking - but ask them about exactly what data is transmitted. They may claim not to know......from what I was told (not by my dealer) it's a little bit scary....And that's exactly why I didn't go for the S-Class Coupe - which is a great looking car - but has the same issues. This is similar feedback from a number of friends and hardcore petrolHeads - who are forming a similar opinion that the new passive safety gizmos are detracting from the driving experience.

And yes - the steering was light - but the feedback was pretty reasonable with the Cup Sport 2 tyres on. Way lighter than the Aventador (obviously) - I actually didn't think it was too light - maybe the feedback could telegraph slightly more information but I actually think they just need to sharpen the steering further- maybe reduce the lock from 3 turns to 2.2-2.5 - and then you'd be concentrating a lot more to worry less about it. The Speciale has light steering - but is scalpel sharp - and it's counter intuitive to slow you steering inputs the faster you go when you maxing out around a track.

Still - I think the GT-S overall is a reasonable first effort out of the box - sadly it just wasn't for me. But I'm still in the fold with the CL65!

Edited by Anjum on Friday 7th August 22:49

Anjum

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1,605 posts

283 months

Saturday 8th August 2015
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Just to let you know - there is an article in EVO with the GT-S and a road trip to Norway, which the car comes out of admirably.

m2m

24 posts

108 months

Saturday 8th August 2015
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MercedesMe surprised me a lot when I heard about it (not all in a good way). Can we get any assurances from Mercedes that this information remains private?

https://www.mercedes-benz.com/en/mercedes-benz/inn...

In terms of the steering, its light especially in the turn but I like it, and suits the car, and would like a faster steer also.

Anjum if I had your resources maybe I would have done the same if I found there was something that I just did not agree with/get on with. So can't say any more than that on the matter.

However can you say anything on resale? That to me would be interesting to know at least; did you manage to remain cost neutral on this?

cheers


jmgdrivesamg

54 posts

144 months

Monday 10th August 2015
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m2m said:
However can you say anything on resale? That to me would be interesting to know at least; did you manage to remain cost neutral on this?

cheers
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/mercedes-benz/amg/mercedes-amg-gt-s-coupe--premium-package/4523472

mattf93

1,273 posts

114 months

Monday 10th August 2015
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jmgdrivesamg said:
That be anjums lightly used example!

Mattpanks

19 posts

129 months

Monday 17th August 2015
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Anyone know what the lead time is on these? Also what deposit do you need to put down to secure a build slot?

Guffy

2,310 posts

264 months

Tuesday 18th August 2015
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mattf93 said:
jmgdrivesamg said:
That be anjums lightly used example!
What kind of premium is that over new?

franki68

10,330 posts

220 months

Tuesday 18th August 2015
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Mattpanks said:
Anyone know what the lead time is on these? Also what deposit do you need to put down to secure a build slot?
Its about 7 months ,I got told if I order now I should get march delivery .
As a side issue ,was really disappointed with the car when I drove it it.

Mattpanks

19 posts

129 months

Tuesday 18th August 2015
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It is a lovely looking car. Not sure it's worth a 7mth wait though

chiefski26

815 posts

200 months

Tuesday 18th August 2015
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franki68 said:
Its about 7 months ,I got told if I order now I should get march delivery .
As a side issue ,was really disappointed with the car when I drove it it.
Why the disappointment?