Any other A45 owners come from a C63 and missing the V8?
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I've had my A45 since July and have covered almost 3000 miles. It's a stonking little car and with the Rebellion V2 tune it's quicker in nearly every real world situation than my previous stage 1 C63 PPP. It's great on the fuel for what it is and the tech and build quality put to shame the W204 C class. However........
I think i'm starting to miss the reliably huge thump of the 6.2V8. I've had no troubles with the 2.0 turbo in the A45 and don't know anyone who has (other than the bad batch of turbos) but you can really tell it's a 2.0 and not a bigger unit, much like an Evo i guess. Fizzing around in the little 4-pot is great fun and in my opinion it's the ideal 'wife' car but it's not such an event as the C63. It lacks the torque and top end pace, despite it being an absolute slayer up to 100mph.
Anyone else finding the same thing? Would i be daft to sell the A45 back to Merc and pick up a very late 507 or low mile PPP as a keeper until the W205 sheds it's astronomic value? Not sure i can avoid the classifieds long enough to keep the A45 full term!
I think i'm starting to miss the reliably huge thump of the 6.2V8. I've had no troubles with the 2.0 turbo in the A45 and don't know anyone who has (other than the bad batch of turbos) but you can really tell it's a 2.0 and not a bigger unit, much like an Evo i guess. Fizzing around in the little 4-pot is great fun and in my opinion it's the ideal 'wife' car but it's not such an event as the C63. It lacks the torque and top end pace, despite it being an absolute slayer up to 100mph.
Anyone else finding the same thing? Would i be daft to sell the A45 back to Merc and pick up a very late 507 or low mile PPP as a keeper until the W205 sheds it's astronomic value? Not sure i can avoid the classifieds long enough to keep the A45 full term!
ecain63 said:
Anyone else finding the same thing? Would i be daft to sell the A45 back to Merc and pick up a very late 507 or low mile PPP as a keeper until the W205 sheds it's astronomic value? Not sure i can avoid the classifieds long enough to keep the A45 full term!
If you did this you'd lose money on your A45, then you'd lose more money on the 507 (or whatever you choose). Is the combination of the two losses really anymore than what you'd lose on a W205 even if you bought one with little or no discount? I'm sure theres some man maths in here that can justify holding onto the A45 and getting one of the first W205's 
ecain63 said:
I've had my A45 since July and have covered almost 3000 miles. It's a stonking little car and with the Rebellion V2 tune it's quicker in nearly every real world situation than my previous stage 1 C63 PPP. It's great on the fuel for what it is and the tech and build quality put to shame the W204 C class. However........
I think i'm starting to miss the reliably huge thump of the 6.2V8. I've had no troubles with the 2.0 turbo in the A45 and don't know anyone who has (other than the bad batch of turbos) but you can really tell it's a 2.0 and not a bigger unit, much like an Evo i guess. Fizzing around in the little 4-pot is great fun and in my opinion it's the ideal 'wife' car but it's not such an event as the C63. It lacks the torque and top end pace, despite it being an absolute slayer up to 100mph.
Anyone else finding the same thing? Would i be daft to sell the A45 back to Merc and pick up a very late 507 or low mile PPP as a keeper until the W205 sheds it's astronomic value? Not sure i can avoid the classifieds long enough to keep the A45 full term!
Give the A45 to the wife, and buy a earlier C63 and have the best of both worlds. Buying a 507 would depreciate a lot initially but a 2-3 year old car seems to be holding the value. Then just stick a Supercharger on and you have a 600+BHP V8 Monster (and thats just stage 1).I think i'm starting to miss the reliably huge thump of the 6.2V8. I've had no troubles with the 2.0 turbo in the A45 and don't know anyone who has (other than the bad batch of turbos) but you can really tell it's a 2.0 and not a bigger unit, much like an Evo i guess. Fizzing around in the little 4-pot is great fun and in my opinion it's the ideal 'wife' car but it's not such an event as the C63. It lacks the torque and top end pace, despite it being an absolute slayer up to 100mph.
Anyone else finding the same thing? Would i be daft to sell the A45 back to Merc and pick up a very late 507 or low mile PPP as a keeper until the W205 sheds it's astronomic value? Not sure i can avoid the classifieds long enough to keep the A45 full term!
I am looking at a GLA45, so trying to convince the Mrs she needs something like a GLA45
I have invested a "fair sum" of money in modifying the C63 and just could not justify selling it LOL
Edited by lee c63 on Sunday 26th October 03:21
Edited by lee c63 on Sunday 26th October 03:24
Grandfondo said:
Does the V2 tune affect the warranty as I am really fancying a GLA 45 AMG for work duties?
What sort of MPG are you getting overal not that it would be a deal breaker at 5k a year?
How are you finding the build quality of the interior as there has been problems with some?
Yeah, if left in place the V2 box would do nothing but bad things for the warranty. But the good thing with it is that you can simply unplug it and the car / MB is none the wiser that it's ever been fettled. Win win!What sort of MPG are you getting overal not that it would be a deal breaker at 5k a year?
How are you finding the build quality of the interior as there has been problems with some?
Fuel economy: At 3000 miles im averaging 25mpg i think. You can easily get 35mpg on a long run but you have to be gentle. The 40+mpg that MB states is pure tosh but 35 ain't too shabby for a 3.7s to 60 car!
Build quality for many has been ace, and for some others it's been awful. My car is pretty sound and i've had no issues with rattles. On the rattle note, many complain about the passenger seat belt rattling against the side of the seat whilst driving solo. Solution: MB built a magnet into the seat shoulder so if you lift the buckle up a couple of inches and push it against the seat leather it will hold nicely and silently whilst you hammer around your favorite country roads. Overall finish is far superior to the W204 in my opinion and despite it being a bit OTT with the colours, screens and vents the standard of finish is excellent. Advice: Drive a few to find the rattly ones.
ecain63 said:
Yeah, if left in place the V2 box would do nothing but bad things for the warranty. But the good thing with it is that you can simply unplug it and the car / MB is none the wiser that it's ever been fettled. Win win!
Fuel economy: At 3000 miles im averaging 25mpg i think. You can easily get 35mpg on a long run but you have to be gentle. The 40+mpg that MB states is pure tosh but 35 ain't too shabby for a 3.7s to 60 car!
Build quality for many has been ace, and for some others it's been awful. My car is pretty sound and i've had no issues with rattles. On the rattle note, many complain about the passenger seat belt rattling against the side of the seat whilst driving solo. Solution: MB built a magnet into the seat shoulder so if you lift the buckle up a couple of inches and push it against the seat leather it will hold nicely and silently whilst you hammer around your favorite country roads. Overall finish is far superior to the W204 in my opinion and despite it being a bit OTT with the colours, screens and vents the standard of finish is excellent. Advice: Drive a few to find the rattly ones.
Cheers.Fuel economy: At 3000 miles im averaging 25mpg i think. You can easily get 35mpg on a long run but you have to be gentle. The 40+mpg that MB states is pure tosh but 35 ain't too shabby for a 3.7s to 60 car!
Build quality for many has been ace, and for some others it's been awful. My car is pretty sound and i've had no issues with rattles. On the rattle note, many complain about the passenger seat belt rattling against the side of the seat whilst driving solo. Solution: MB built a magnet into the seat shoulder so if you lift the buckle up a couple of inches and push it against the seat leather it will hold nicely and silently whilst you hammer around your favorite country roads. Overall finish is far superior to the W204 in my opinion and despite it being a bit OTT with the colours, screens and vents the standard of finish is excellent. Advice: Drive a few to find the rattly ones.
M
But to swap an almost new A45 for a late W204 C63 is madness. Either stick with the A45 or go all the way for the W205 C63, or something equally bonkers (whisper it, an F10 M5, go on!)
ecain63 said:
Build quality for many has been ace, and for some others it's been awful. My car is pretty sound and i've had no issues with rattles. On the rattle note, many complain about the passenger seat belt rattling against the side of the seat whilst driving solo. Solution: MB built a magnet into the seat shoulder so if you lift the buckle up a couple of inches and push it against the seat leather it will hold nicely and silently whilst you hammer around your favorite country roads. Overall finish is far superior to the W204 in my opinion and despite it being a bit OTT with the colours, screens and vents the standard of finish is excellent. Advice: Drive a few to find the rattly ones.
You are comparing your pre-facelift W204 with the A45 though. I had both a pre-facelift C220 and a facelift C350 CDI and there is a huge difference. Had an A200 on loan for a few days while the C350 was being repaired, and the A class finish and quality was inferior in every possible way.But to swap an almost new A45 for a late W204 C63 is madness. Either stick with the A45 or go all the way for the W205 C63, or something equally bonkers (whisper it, an F10 M5, go on!)
I would do one of two things:
1. Swap for a 2-3 year old facelift C63 that has already shed the most of it's depreciation, remap and keep for 18-24 months and change for a W205
2. Keep for another 18 months until the W205 is out and px your A45 then - this is the best option for cost.
My C63 goes end of next months and I am dreading it... I've ordred a 640d that I will run for 2 years and then get a W205.
I think the diesel is going to drive me mad, but at least it will be a nice place to be for a couple of years!
1. Swap for a 2-3 year old facelift C63 that has already shed the most of it's depreciation, remap and keep for 18-24 months and change for a W205
2. Keep for another 18 months until the W205 is out and px your A45 then - this is the best option for cost.
My C63 goes end of next months and I am dreading it... I've ordred a 640d that I will run for 2 years and then get a W205.
I think the diesel is going to drive me mad, but at least it will be a nice place to be for a couple of years!
This topic illustrates the gulf between a uber competent car and a truly great one.
I test drove the A45 for PH over a year ago and my biggest concern was that Mercedes appeared to have created something ever so close to perfection in terms of dynamics.
many of you here either have done or are considering, chipping the car to make it quicker, but once you have got used to the pace, and you will, the clinical nature of the vehicle will, almost certainly, result in you looking elsewhere for the element of fun so needed for a fulfilling long-term relationship.
Every rumble of the V8, every aural sensation from the 63 cars is real, and as a result of the physics chemistry and biology of the car. In the A45, its all fake. It's all created to form an illusion by very worthy and clever electronics.
. I like the A45, it is, at this time, close to the pinnacle of what can be achieved from a 2 litre engine. It is efficient, reliable and of great quality. But would it be heresy to say that its just a little bit too good?
I test drove the A45 for PH over a year ago and my biggest concern was that Mercedes appeared to have created something ever so close to perfection in terms of dynamics.
many of you here either have done or are considering, chipping the car to make it quicker, but once you have got used to the pace, and you will, the clinical nature of the vehicle will, almost certainly, result in you looking elsewhere for the element of fun so needed for a fulfilling long-term relationship.
Every rumble of the V8, every aural sensation from the 63 cars is real, and as a result of the physics chemistry and biology of the car. In the A45, its all fake. It's all created to form an illusion by very worthy and clever electronics.
. I like the A45, it is, at this time, close to the pinnacle of what can be achieved from a 2 litre engine. It is efficient, reliable and of great quality. But would it be heresy to say that its just a little bit too good?
2 5HAN said:
Eddie RS6 down to MRC 800bhp Bobs your uncle.
You know it makes sense lol
I hear you mate. Not sure I'm fancying a C6 at this present time. Now the C7 is out the old V10 looks a little inferior, despite it actually being bloody awesome. What you got at the moment? You know it makes sense lol
I keep looking at 507's and a certain fire opal red Black Series!
As palmball said, whatever you change it to you will lose and then lose again, my cls sb had a book price of 105k they're now in the stealers at 50k just over a year later
I'm in a PCP for another couple of years but knew the risks, and didn't pay full price!!
Lee possibly had the right idea if you do want to change....
Get an older c63 then run silly numbers with a supercharger like his
I looked at a45 when I moved on from my c63 but it didn't do it for me, the cls has bags of tq when needed, you just have to come off the gas a lot earlier when you have over 1000nm under the hood.
It will still do mid 20's or so I've been told
Go for an e class or cls btt but don't expect it to fly round the corners like the amg, just be prepared to lose again later
I have an abarth 500 for that - 1.4l running nearly 190bhp with remap and would out handle your amg round the twisties cos I'd be doing half the speed but twice the fun, for 10k ish.
Thing is we all get itchy feet, don't rush into something....
YOU NEVER LOSE MONEY ON A CAR........UNTIL YOU SELL IT
I'm in a PCP for another couple of years but knew the risks, and didn't pay full price!!
Lee possibly had the right idea if you do want to change....
Get an older c63 then run silly numbers with a supercharger like his
I looked at a45 when I moved on from my c63 but it didn't do it for me, the cls has bags of tq when needed, you just have to come off the gas a lot earlier when you have over 1000nm under the hood.
It will still do mid 20's or so I've been told
Go for an e class or cls btt but don't expect it to fly round the corners like the amg, just be prepared to lose again later
I have an abarth 500 for that - 1.4l running nearly 190bhp with remap and would out handle your amg round the twisties cos I'd be doing half the speed but twice the fun, for 10k ish.
Thing is we all get itchy feet, don't rush into something....
YOU NEVER LOSE MONEY ON A CAR........UNTIL YOU SELL IT
Charliesum said:
As palmball said, whatever you change it to you will lose and then lose again
And he knows a thing or two about trading cars in. When I had the A45 for a day, I knew if I traded the C63 for it, I would certainly miss the event. I do not currently miss the C63 as my current car is better in almost every way.
I dare say anyone who traded down from the C63 to the A class would get a little buyers remorse. But for what it's worth, I say keep it and thrash arse off of the A45 and in 18 months get yourself a new C63.
mickyveloce said:
This topic illustrates the gulf between a uber competent car and a truly great one.
I test drove the A45 for PH over a year ago and my biggest concern was that Mercedes appeared to have created something ever so close to perfection in terms of dynamics.
many of you here either have done or are considering, chipping the car to make it quicker, but once you have got used to the pace, and you will, the clinical nature of the vehicle will, almost certainly, result in you looking elsewhere for the element of fun so needed for a fulfilling long-term relationship.
Every rumble of the V8, every aural sensation from the 63 cars is real, and as a result of the physics chemistry and biology of the car. In the A45, its all fake. It's all created to form an illusion by very worthy and clever electronics.
. I like the A45, it is, at this time, close to the pinnacle of what can be achieved from a 2 litre engine. It is efficient, reliable and of great quality. But would it be heresy to say that its just a little bit too good?
As an A45 owner since March and my previous car a B7 RS4, I kinda agree with your sentiments. The A45 is not a particularly rewarding car to drive, but it is a good all rounder. Mine has been faultless over the first 5000 miles and the cabin is a nice place to spend time in compared to the dated RS4. I test drove the A45 for PH over a year ago and my biggest concern was that Mercedes appeared to have created something ever so close to perfection in terms of dynamics.
many of you here either have done or are considering, chipping the car to make it quicker, but once you have got used to the pace, and you will, the clinical nature of the vehicle will, almost certainly, result in you looking elsewhere for the element of fun so needed for a fulfilling long-term relationship.
Every rumble of the V8, every aural sensation from the 63 cars is real, and as a result of the physics chemistry and biology of the car. In the A45, its all fake. It's all created to form an illusion by very worthy and clever electronics.
. I like the A45, it is, at this time, close to the pinnacle of what can be achieved from a 2 litre engine. It is efficient, reliable and of great quality. But would it be heresy to say that its just a little bit too good?
Guffy said:
mickyveloce said:
This topic illustrates the gulf between a uber competent car and a truly great one.
I test drove the A45 for PH over a year ago and my biggest concern was that Mercedes appeared to have created something ever so close to perfection in terms of dynamics.
many of you here either have done or are considering, chipping the car to make it quicker, but once you have got used to the pace, and you will, the clinical nature of the vehicle will, almost certainly, result in you looking elsewhere for the element of fun so needed for a fulfilling long-term relationship.
Every rumble of the V8, every aural sensation from the 63 cars is real, and as a result of the physics chemistry and biology of the car. In the A45, its all fake. It's all created to form an illusion by very worthy and clever electronics.
. I like the A45, it is, at this time, close to the pinnacle of what can be achieved from a 2 litre engine. It is efficient, reliable and of great quality. But would it be heresy to say that its just a little bit too good?
As an A45 owner since March and my previous car a B7 RS4, I kinda agree with your sentiments. The A45 is not a particularly rewarding car to drive, but it is a good all rounder. Mine has been faultless over the first 5000 miles and the cabin is a nice place to spend time in compared to the dated RS4. I test drove the A45 for PH over a year ago and my biggest concern was that Mercedes appeared to have created something ever so close to perfection in terms of dynamics.
many of you here either have done or are considering, chipping the car to make it quicker, but once you have got used to the pace, and you will, the clinical nature of the vehicle will, almost certainly, result in you looking elsewhere for the element of fun so needed for a fulfilling long-term relationship.
Every rumble of the V8, every aural sensation from the 63 cars is real, and as a result of the physics chemistry and biology of the car. In the A45, its all fake. It's all created to form an illusion by very worthy and clever electronics.
. I like the A45, it is, at this time, close to the pinnacle of what can be achieved from a 2 litre engine. It is efficient, reliable and of great quality. But would it be heresy to say that its just a little bit too good?
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