190E Classic

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Liquid Knight

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15,754 posts

183 months

Saturday 11th April 2015
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I recently took a trip to the dark end of the automotive spectrum. To overcome this trauma I've bought myself a Mercedes 190E "Classic" on an L-reg.

Last of the line 190E and bog standard apart from a little plastic afterthought "Classic" badge placed on the boot lid.

I'm pretty lucky to get one with 145,000 miles on the 1.8 engine, manual gearbox (of course) and she'll be delivered Wednesday.

I was looking forward to collecting the car but life and stuff gets in the way.

So what would you do with a tidy red late model 190E?

I'm thinking classic lines with modern "Kompressor" power. wink


sim16v

2,177 posts

201 months

Monday 13th April 2015
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In red you say...


Brabus replica?





Any one of a choice of engines could be used as well.

A friend is working on this...


V12 AMG

712 posts

109 months

Monday 13th April 2015
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More details on that last pic!?!?!

sim16v

2,177 posts

201 months

Monday 13th April 2015
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He helaugh

500E M119 taken to 6.0L, ported/flowed heads, Omex management and an ASA charger, all bolted to a 5 speed manual boxnuts

All in a Berg Cup style W124 CE.












Oh, and sorry for the thread hijack!

V12 AMG

712 posts

109 months

Monday 13th April 2015
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Aiming for 500-600bhp?

Very very cool. Got a project thread on any forum anywhere?

Liquid Knight

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183 months

Monday 13th April 2015
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My car doesn't arrive until Wednesday so don't worry.

I didn't know there was a Brabus 190E either. smile

sim16v

2,177 posts

201 months

Monday 13th April 2015
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There was a Lorinser 190 as well.





V12,

Yes, 550-600 bhp is the aim, and it should do it quite comfortably.

It had nearly 400 when it was running on 7 cylinders!

There isn't a build thread for the 124, but I've a photographic history of the build.

My mate doesn't post on forums, because his cars tend to upset the purists and rivet counters!

He also can't be bothered to argue with the internet mechanics who say X,Y,Z can't be done/is impossible, even though he has usually been there and done it!


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Edited by sim16v on Monday 13th April 22:06

Swoxy

2,801 posts

210 months

Monday 13th April 2015
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Great, is this it? - http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/271822516005

I don't think there's such thing as a Classic. I just bought a 190, it's fantastic!

Liquid Knight

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15,754 posts

183 months

Tuesday 14th April 2015
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That's the one.

I thought the badge was a dealership afterthought. hehe

I've seen a few.

Shhhhh! She's insured for £1,500

Liquid Knight

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Wednesday 15th April 2015
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She arrived just after nine o'clock. Too dark to photograph and the usual tired Bosch ten minute start up. Lumpy gear change and wallowy suspension.

I was thinking rear wishbone bushes and gearbox mounts but a look at the MOT suggests subframe bushes and front prop' shaft rubber. Not a bad guess. I hope the slow start up is due to old fuel and maybe a clogged filter as finding someone who knows what K-Jetronics is let alone how to service it will be little short of a miracle. smile

DeuxCentCinq

14,180 posts

182 months

Wednesday 15th April 2015
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Liquid Knight said:
She arrived just after nine o'clock. Too dark to photograph and the usual tired Bosch ten minute start up. Lumpy gear change and wallowy suspension.

I was thinking rear wishbone bushes and gearbox mounts but a look at the MOT suggests subframe bushes and front prop' shaft rubber. Not a bad guess. I hope the slow start up is due to old fuel and maybe a clogged filter as finding someone who knows what K-Jetronics is let alone how to service it will be little short of a miracle. smile
Can you replace the K-Jet with something a little more modern? I'm getting my 205 rewired with Motronic as we speak.

V12 AMG

712 posts

109 months

Thursday 16th April 2015
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Are you anywhere near london? I know a few k jetronic specialists.

Liquid Knight

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Thursday 16th April 2015
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A hundred miles away from London and yes; I already have a couple of inlet manifold gaskets to make a base plate for a bank of bike carb's. wink

Liquid Knight

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Thursday 16th April 2015
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Where does one look for the obsolete? Somewhere technology hasn't caught up. Somewhere people still stare at planes. Somewhere Radio One's BIG WEEKEND hasn't been.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/REBUILD-KIT-TO-REPAIR-BO...

Norwich. silly

I have subframe bushes and prop' rubbers on my watch list as well. smile

jith

2,752 posts

215 months

Thursday 16th April 2015
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Liquid Knight said:
Where does one look for the obsolete? Somewhere technology hasn't caught up. Somewhere people still stare at planes. Somewhere Radio One's BIG WEEKEND hasn't been.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/REBUILD-KIT-TO-REPAIR-BO...

Norwich. silly

I have subframe bushes and prop' rubbers on my watch list as well. smile
It'd virtually impossible to repair these K Jet fuel units without the proper equipment. They are manufactured to immensely accurate tolerances. I would send it to a specialist who has the equipment to repair. But first you have to get a proper diagnosis doine to ensure you detect the correct fault.

J

Liquid Knight

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Thursday 16th April 2015
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That's why so many Bosch cars end up in the scrap heap as there are fewer and fewer people about who know what they are looking at. Similar to carb's; tn fifteen years ago you could get a pair of Webers stripped and rebuilt in a few hours at your local garage now you need to send them to Australia and back.



Hand painted two tone red. The lower half appears to be some kind of household gloss.



Remarkably straight with only a couple of rust spots on the top wheel arches.



Tiny radiator considering the frontal area of the car.



I can hear my own echo around the engine. wink



A gentle push on the choke flap to feel if the diaphragm is consistent. It is but the seal isn't great so a once round with WD40 and a toothbrush and she starts a lot easier now. smile

Liquid Knight

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Thursday 16th April 2015
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A quick wash and I invested in a polishing mop for my grinder. The bonnet came out a lot better than...



...my trousers did. hehe

jith

2,752 posts

215 months

Thursday 16th April 2015
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Liquid Knight said:
That's why so many Bosch cars end up in the scrap heap as there are fewer and fewer people about who know what they are looking at. Similar to carb's; tn fifteen years ago you could get a pair of Webers stripped and rebuilt in a few hours at your local garage now you need to send them to Australia and back.

You can send them up to me and I'll set them up.

J

Liquid Knight

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Saturday 18th April 2015
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jith said:
You can send them up to me and I'll set them up.

J
Thank you. I may have to. It took twenty eight minutes for the old girl to start this morning.

K-Jet-Chronic. hehe

Liquid Knight

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Saturday 18th April 2015
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Cold (1'C with ice on the bonnet roof and windscreens) start this morning took twenty eight minutes (eighteen via jump leads on the works van).
Warm start this afternoon (13'C) took seven minutes.

I think I could have cold injector issue or temperature sensor.

http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w201-190-class/166...

Either that or I need a carb'. wink