Mail order Mercedes?

Mail order Mercedes?

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Simpo Two

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85,349 posts

265 months

Saturday 25th April 2015
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I'm hunting for a Mercedes and found one that looked just right - but the dealer is on the other side of the country. I rang them up and asked if it was possible to shuffle it around the dealer network a bit for me. The salesman implied it wasn't, but then said that if we worked out the numbers and I paid a deposit, he would personally drive the car to me and I'd pay the balance. I'm not sure if he then planned to go back on the train, or drive it back to the dealership for the paperwork and then I'd have to go and get it...

Anyway, when I said that I'd quite like to see/test drive the car BEFORE throwing £20K+ at it, he seemed surprised and said 70% of his customers bought the cars straight off the internet, and that the deposit wasn't refundable unless the product was misdescribed. Just like eBay!

How normal is this practice, and do distance selling regs apply? I agree that the car will match the photos and a main dealer is unlikely to 'misdescribe' anything, but what if I decide not to go ahead if, for example, the seats are too hard or the ride too firm? It seems bizarre to send £20K+ into the ether for a car I haven't seen or driven.

NJS25

446 posts

249 months

Saturday 25th April 2015
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What you describe is not that different to buying new.

In this scenario you look at some pretty pictures in a brochure, listen to the patter from a salesman, and usually, but not always, take for a test drive to make sure the make, model, engine are right for you.

The car you recieve is not the one you have driven, but it should be very similar to the one tested.

Have you driven a car of similar spec to the one you are interested in to make sure it's the right model for you.

Other than this you are relying on the car being without fault and looking for some level of warranty to provide assurance against your purchase - so again, just like buying a new car!

Just one persepctive.

Regards, Neil

Simpo Two

Original Poster:

85,349 posts

265 months

Saturday 25th April 2015
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Thanks Neil, it's an interesting thought. I've never bought from a main dealer before, much preferring to buy privately. But very few decent cars seem to be private these days. Everybody must be getting lazy!

The only way I can drive a similar car is to badger a dealer closer to home, and pretend I'm interested, and then walk away with a false excuse. So yesterday I drove an E-Class cabrio that was the wrong colour with a too-small engine, and today I had a go in a CLS 320 that was too old - sorry for wasting your time chaps.

The jury's still out but the E-Class cabrio is nosing ahead.

So, do I take a flyer and post £22K to Bristol, or take a four hour drive... scratchchin

bitchstewie

51,104 posts

210 months

Saturday 25th April 2015
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Personally I wouldn't spend what I imagine is a sizeable amount of money without seeing the car.

I don't want to get into a "dealers are crap" debate but I'm fussy and it staggers me what passes for normal, acceptable, "immaculate" condition on a 2-3 year old marque approved used scheme vehicle at a main dealer.

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 25th April 2015
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sounds to me like you are the sort of person that needs to see the car to make the purchase

have a trip down there and see it

or wait until one pops up closer to home

but the salesman is right - a lot of used cars are bought from main dealers without the buyer seeing the actual car until it is collected / delivered

Simpo Two

Original Poster:

85,349 posts

265 months

Saturday 25th April 2015
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You're right. To me buying a car is not like buying a hedgecutter from Amazon.

Though the 'It's easy and I'm sure I'll get to like it' angel is vocal.

tonys

1,080 posts

223 months

Sunday 26th April 2015
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I wouldn't buy a secondhand (or pre-loved, cherished or whatever other nonsense they might call it) without seeing it first, even if it was only a few months old. Everybody has different standards / expectations and one person's 'mint' is another's 'average'. It might be different if you knew the dealer and knew their prep. standards.

I can understand dealers not shuffling cars around at the drop of a hat as it's expensive and time. consuming for them, and would often not result in a sale. I also suspect they are in competition with each other for 'units sold'.

I agree that fewer decent cars seem to be advertised privately, but of course a lot of new cars are leased nowadays, rather than actually owned, hence they just go back into the trade. From seller's point of view, a lot of people can't be bothered with all the timewasters you seem to get now that everything is on the internet and you end up with emails asking hundreds of questions, photo requests, from somebody who isn't really seriously interested, so they just trade it in. I traded my last one in, for the first time in decades of buying cars, as I was offered a reasonable price and couldn't be bothered with tyre kickers or people demanding to know 'what's your best price' etc.

It's a pain, but all you can realistically do is as much research as you can on the car in question and travel if need be. I didn't look at an otherwise perfectly specced car once simply because I noticed that the 2 new tyres were some cheap make I'd never heard of and, on a £30k+ car, that was enough to put me off.

surveyor

17,809 posts

184 months

Monday 27th April 2015
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I have bought a demo without seeing it first. But they only had a very small deposit (£200) that was refundable and I was prepared to walk if it was not as described.

As it happened it was better with more equipment than I knew about so I drove home a happy bunny.

Sheepshanks

32,718 posts

119 months

Monday 27th April 2015
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NJS25 said:
What you describe is not that different to buying new.

In this scenario you look at some pretty pictures in a brochure, listen to the patter from a salesman, and usually, but not always, take for a test drive to make sure the make, model, engine are right for you.

The car you recieve is not the one you have driven, but it should be very similar to the one tested.
I know someone very wealthy who won't buy new cars because of this - he wants to drive the actual car he'll be buying.


Salespeople seem to think that test driving is just for checking the car doesn't have any faults. Quite how you're supposed to know if the car is right for you, especially once it gets to a few years old and you can't blag a test drive at a main dealer, I have no idea.


Distance selling regs are a bit vague here - they didn't used to apply for ad-hoc sales, but I think there's wider coverage now.

Simpo Two

Original Poster:

85,349 posts

265 months

Monday 27th April 2015
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Sheepshanks said:
Distance selling regs are a bit vague here - they didn't used to apply for ad-hoc sales, but I think there's wider coverage now.
I asked the salesmen if DSRs applied; he didn't answer that one. He seemed fairly desperate to sell but didn't close the uncertainty gap - and the last thing I want is a car I'm not happy with.

Anyway, the car sold the next day so the dilemma for now has gone. Hopefully the next one will be a bit closer!

Sheepshanks

32,718 posts

119 months

Monday 27th April 2015
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I know when I got mine from MB Direct in Brum they were very pushy to get me to agree to buy it on the 'phone and they'd deliver it. When I went to collect they hadn't repaired stone-chips which they said they would, so they did it there and then.

Normally we buy new, the Merc is the only used car I've had for many years, but even collecting new ones it's rarely just get in and go, there's almost always some issue or other.

DTB77

110 posts

132 months

Friday 8th May 2015
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I bought mine unseen from MB Direct in Brum too. It was a £500 deposit, but I was assured this was subject to a test drive and if I didn't like it (or car wasn't as described) I could walk away with my deposit. I didn't test that offer as I went ahead with the deal, even though there were a couple of imperfections it was still a good enough deal to suck it up. They also offered a 28-day exchange I think, in case I wasn't happy with it.

Simpo Two

Original Poster:

85,349 posts

265 months

Friday 8th May 2015
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Well guess what... a car that looks identical (quite a rare colour/trim combo) has just appeared only 50 miles away and for £2K less... will have to visit and kick the tyres I think!