Why hasnt this CL65 sold ?
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[quote=Armen]Popeye, I sat in the C216 and also in the new S-Coupe. 
When I talk about performance, I'm not about the 0-60 time. Yes, from a stand still from 0 to 60, a CL 63 AMG with the 5.5 bi-turbo will be a bit quicker than the 65 AMG, because of a better traction (and because less power and torque).
But, once the traction control stops getting crazy, the V12 bi-turbo starts flying and pulls like a rocket. The 0-200 km/h (around 124 mph) is done in 12,8 seconds, that's the time of a 997 Turbo and F430. (those can not even follow the 65 AMG from a rolling start, here is a video with S65 W220 which is heavier than CL 65 C215 : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLeuDZz-PZo and here SL 65 same weight than CL 65 against F430 : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnF598pbYJs ).
You would need the 5.5 bi-turbo with performance package but even with that, the 65 AMG will still be faster.
About the dry weight, the C215 is at 2055 kg. The C216 is at 2140 kg and the C216 facelift with 630 hp is even heavier at 2170 kg. I test drove the 65 AMG C216 facelift and I assure you the C215 is faster.
I admit the interior is really beautiful but I do prefer the esthetic of the C215, to my eyes much classier and pure as a Mercedes should be.
:couldn't agree more on the external looks. The 215 has its own look (especially the rear quarter and roof line) the later models just don't have it. That's why I believe it will apreceate eventually
When I talk about performance, I'm not about the 0-60 time. Yes, from a stand still from 0 to 60, a CL 63 AMG with the 5.5 bi-turbo will be a bit quicker than the 65 AMG, because of a better traction (and because less power and torque).
But, once the traction control stops getting crazy, the V12 bi-turbo starts flying and pulls like a rocket. The 0-200 km/h (around 124 mph) is done in 12,8 seconds, that's the time of a 997 Turbo and F430. (those can not even follow the 65 AMG from a rolling start, here is a video with S65 W220 which is heavier than CL 65 C215 : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLeuDZz-PZo and here SL 65 same weight than CL 65 against F430 : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnF598pbYJs ).
You would need the 5.5 bi-turbo with performance package but even with that, the 65 AMG will still be faster.
About the dry weight, the C215 is at 2055 kg. The C216 is at 2140 kg and the C216 facelift with 630 hp is even heavier at 2170 kg. I test drove the 65 AMG C216 facelift and I assure you the C215 is faster.
I admit the interior is really beautiful but I do prefer the esthetic of the C215, to my eyes much classier and pure as a Mercedes should be.
:couldn't agree more on the external looks. The 215 has its own look (especially the rear quarter and roof line) the later models just don't have it. That's why I believe it will apreceate eventually
popeyewhite said:
Aesthetic.
Couldn't find qtr mile figures for the old CL65.
The '14 CL65 does the qtr in 12.4, the '13 CL63 in 12.1.
All that torque's coloured your judgement. Actually as you say I'm sure the old model 65 is quicker above 100, but I couldn't find figures. If it's quicker than 12.1 secs for the qtr I'll be pleasantly surprised, but surprised nonetheless.
11.8 according to fast laps.comCouldn't find qtr mile figures for the old CL65.
The '14 CL65 does the qtr in 12.4, the '13 CL63 in 12.1.
All that torque's coloured your judgement. Actually as you say I'm sure the old model 65 is quicker above 100, but I couldn't find figures. If it's quicker than 12.1 secs for the qtr I'll be pleasantly surprised, but surprised nonetheless.
popeyewhite said:
BobTurner said:
Act surprised, may even be true: http://mbworld.org/forums/s55-amg-s65-amg-s63-amg-...
Noted. I saw an S65 in Sainsbury's the other day, black on cream leather. Absolutely gorgeous.
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