CL500 with C-class compact wheels
Discussion
^^^This.
If all four are the same size, it's unlikely you'd have ABS/TC problems. And it's highly unlikely that genuine wheels would be unable to stomach the torque of a CL.
More likely problems arise from the C-Class wheels and tyres being a different size from the CL-Class wheels. I note the offset is significantly greater on the CL-Class and the tyre diameter and circumference are slightly greater. Thus you might end up with interference between wheel/tyre and bodywork, suspension components or brake components, especially in extremis. You might have an over-reading speedo. You might have slight handling or geometry issues. And it will look s
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ABS and TC problems occur when the wheels on the car have a different circumference such that the computer thinks one or more wheels are spinning faster or slower than the others.
Edit: the wheel bolts are the same on the w202 and the c215: part number B6 47 0111.
If all four are the same size, it's unlikely you'd have ABS/TC problems. And it's highly unlikely that genuine wheels would be unable to stomach the torque of a CL.
More likely problems arise from the C-Class wheels and tyres being a different size from the CL-Class wheels. I note the offset is significantly greater on the CL-Class and the tyre diameter and circumference are slightly greater. Thus you might end up with interference between wheel/tyre and bodywork, suspension components or brake components, especially in extremis. You might have an over-reading speedo. You might have slight handling or geometry issues. And it will look s
t.ABS and TC problems occur when the wheels on the car have a different circumference such that the computer thinks one or more wheels are spinning faster or slower than the others.
Edit: the wheel bolts are the same on the w202 and the c215: part number B6 47 0111.
Edited by r129sl on Thursday 30th July 16:00
V12 AMG said:
The wheel bolts are not the same between W202 and W215.
W202 has M12 bolts and W215 has M14.
We'll if it's a compact? I'm assuming you mean C class coupe, the forerunner of the CLC, the it is a 203. But still your point stands. If they are genuine 203 wheels the bolts shouldn't fit through them. W202 has M12 bolts and W215 has M14.
To be honest it sounds like a car to keep clear of.
M14 bolts do fit through the holes on many W203 wheels but the shape of the seat is different due to the profiles of the M14 vs M12 head.
This means you will never torque the bolts properly and you will usually damage the wheels by doing so as the mating surfaces will not contact each other correctly.
It's worse the other way, when I see S class wheels on smaller mercs I cringe and wonder if the driver knows the safety implications.
There are of course adapter bolts which have M12 thread and M14 seats. I'm not sure about the other way around though.
This means you will never torque the bolts properly and you will usually damage the wheels by doing so as the mating surfaces will not contact each other correctly.
It's worse the other way, when I see S class wheels on smaller mercs I cringe and wonder if the driver knows the safety implications.
There are of course adapter bolts which have M12 thread and M14 seats. I'm not sure about the other way around though.
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I called to enquire as to whether they would be willing to put the original wheels on and they refused. I also mentioned they should check that it's safe to have those wheels on as they're not designed for the car but they didn't sound too bothered.
I called to enquire as to whether they would be willing to put the original wheels on and they refused. I also mentioned they should check that it's safe to have those wheels on as they're not designed for the car but they didn't sound too bothered.
V12 AMG said:
You've dodged a bullet there.
They are from the W203 coupe, often referred to as the evolution wheels.
Also has a non original gear knob.
Yeah that's what I meant, sorry got confused with the 'compact' denotion from the 3 series - looks horrible doesn't it?They are from the W203 coupe, often referred to as the evolution wheels.
Also has a non original gear knob.
Never noticed the gearknob - good spot. What attracted me to the advert was that it was priced as the early models but is a facelift car.
But whoever has owned it before clearly has either smacked the old wheels and skimped or is an idiot - either way I wouldn't want the car!
As a slight aside on a related topic, we were considering a ML250 when choosing our next family car. I'm not a fan of oversized wheels and tyres for the sake of it, and was interested to see that the ML250 could be specified with 17" wheels as a no-cost extra.
They looked like castors, but I'm sure offered a more compliant ride and would be cheaper to replace, but at what cost to resale?
They looked like castors, but I'm sure offered a more compliant ride and would be cheaper to replace, but at what cost to resale?
P2DJX said:
Yip and it will probably get driven at 155mph+ regularly *sigh*
You have no comprehension of the engineering at work here.The mating surface between the bolt and the seat in the wheel are not the same shape or size. You CANNOT torque the wheel bolts correctly.
The wheels could easily fall off at 5mph due to this fact. My reference to the performance of this particular car is pertinent because of the torque that the drivetrain can put through the rear wheels. This increases the importance of correctly fitted wheels and bolts.
I'm scared that my family and I have to share the roads with people who do not show any concern towards safety at all.
Edited by V12 AMG on Tuesday 4th August 14:13
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