CLS550 - What are they like?
Discussion
edc said:
J4CKO said:
Yeah, they are more cruiser than B road blaster but to be honest, the size and weight isnt the hampering factor for going quickly, its having an auto I find that doesnt really suit that kind of driving.
Sounds like you need the Eurocharged TCU map and some of those aftermarket flappy paddles. Smokey32 said:
edc said:
J4CKO said:
Yeah, they are more cruiser than B road blaster but to be honest, the size and weight isnt the hampering factor for going quickly, its having an auto I find that doesnt really suit that kind of driving.
Sounds like you need the Eurocharged TCU map and some of those aftermarket flappy paddles. I do seem to be pretty content with it though, only an XFR would tempt me out of it currently.
I also have the Eurocharged ECU & TCU map. Of course, at the end of the day it is still a torque converter, but the Eurocharged tweeks do sharpen things up a little. It's no B road blaster and there are better cars suited to that role, but it can hustle if you want it to (C55 that is).
Smokey32 said:
BUG4LIFE said:
I really want to make a CLS 55 AMG my next car. I thought the cost of running one would be huge compared to a C55 (for example), but that might not be the case! It seems servicing, brakes etc don't have to cost the earth! Obviously is stuff goes wrong they can be costly.
That's what my research has lead me to believe at the mo anyway...maybe I'm wrong, so then I think I'd need to decide between a C55 and CLS 500 that the OP is asking about.
Running costs are quite a step on from a c55. The air suspension often goes and thats not cheap. The brakes have a complicated system and a pump that can fail that costs a grand just for the pump. Tyres are quite a bit bigger. The car is a lot more complicated.That's what my research has lead me to believe at the mo anyway...maybe I'm wrong, so then I think I'd need to decide between a C55 and CLS 500 that the OP is asking about.
I'd be more than happy with a C55 though (this one caught my eye - http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016...
If there was even the smallest chance of being able to have a near 500bhp car though, it would be hard to say no!
BUG4LIFE said:
I just meant general maintenance, as appose to if something brakes! Maybe I'd need to into warranties too?!
I'd be more than happy with a C55 though (this one caught my eye - http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016...
If there was even the smallest chance of being able to have a near 500bhp car though, it would be hard to say no!
That's top money for a C55 right now. Just sold mine with some minor mods rear decat, y pipe, Eurocharged ECU & TCU map giving circa 400 bhp and 400lbsft, well maintained, new front brakes and just serviced and MOT'd. It was well under that car linked. I'd be more than happy with a C55 though (this one caught my eye - http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016...
If there was even the smallest chance of being able to have a near 500bhp car though, it would be hard to say no!
BUG4LIFE said:
I just meant general maintenance, as appose to if something brakes! Maybe I'd need to into warranties too?!
I'd be more than happy with a C55 though (this one caught my eye - http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016...
If there was even the smallest chance of being able to have a near 500bhp car though, it would be hard to say no!
You can get to 500bhp but you'd have to fit a Supercharger kit, my CLK55 is pretty much as far as you can go in N/A form & it's varied from 424-428bhp with 431 lbft.I'd be more than happy with a C55 though (this one caught my eye - http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016...
If there was even the smallest chance of being able to have a near 500bhp car though, it would be hard to say no!
Tuning wise I'd say the best gains come from Air Filters Manifolds Map & Exhaust, the cams added 18bhp but for the expense of buying & getting them fitted the cost outweighs the gain.
The CLS is more complicated but the Air Suspension doesnt have to cost thousands to sort,
Found a good guide,
http://www.mercedesmedic.com/air-suspension-troubl...
The Air suspension, absolutel worst case can be replaced with conventional stuff for about £1500, probably cheaper, the AMG ones have the same setup to other air sprung CLS's from what I can see but slightly different calibration.
I did some research on the CLS 55, a lot of the normal advice for the CLS and W211 E class applies as well, the brakes are bigger, the wheels and tyres are bigger and obviously its a different engine but other than that, not a huge load of difference to the rest of the car, usually has more gadgets.
The SBC Brakes are a pain, loads of info out there on that and again it can be sorted fairly cost effectively,
Then there is the engine and gearbox, dont think the Gearbox has any major issues, tough as old boots, engine wise it seems to be the pump for the supercharger coolant that goes pop and the supercharger pulley bearing can get noisy, neither of which are huge money to sort but if you dont do stuff yourself, take it to a dealer and it all comes at once then it could get pricey.
Brake disks and pads are like £150 for the front, so if you DIY that isnt too ruinous.
Tyres are around £150 a corner.
VED is £500 ish, but then it is for every CLS I think, am used to it now.
MPG is a killer but never worked out if a 55 is much worse than a 500, am guessing it will be slightly worse due to more power, wider rubber and having the superchargers parisitic losses, but other than that, same sized car and most of the time will be doing the same driving, I would expect mid/late teens knocking about and up to say about 28 on a longer run.
Check any you buy has had all this stuff addressed, otherwise I dotn think they are hugely problematic, A C55 could still throw big bills up.
Found a good guide,
http://www.mercedesmedic.com/air-suspension-troubl...
The Air suspension, absolutel worst case can be replaced with conventional stuff for about £1500, probably cheaper, the AMG ones have the same setup to other air sprung CLS's from what I can see but slightly different calibration.
I did some research on the CLS 55, a lot of the normal advice for the CLS and W211 E class applies as well, the brakes are bigger, the wheels and tyres are bigger and obviously its a different engine but other than that, not a huge load of difference to the rest of the car, usually has more gadgets.
The SBC Brakes are a pain, loads of info out there on that and again it can be sorted fairly cost effectively,
Then there is the engine and gearbox, dont think the Gearbox has any major issues, tough as old boots, engine wise it seems to be the pump for the supercharger coolant that goes pop and the supercharger pulley bearing can get noisy, neither of which are huge money to sort but if you dont do stuff yourself, take it to a dealer and it all comes at once then it could get pricey.
Brake disks and pads are like £150 for the front, so if you DIY that isnt too ruinous.
Tyres are around £150 a corner.
VED is £500 ish, but then it is for every CLS I think, am used to it now.
MPG is a killer but never worked out if a 55 is much worse than a 500, am guessing it will be slightly worse due to more power, wider rubber and having the superchargers parisitic losses, but other than that, same sized car and most of the time will be doing the same driving, I would expect mid/late teens knocking about and up to say about 28 on a longer run.
Check any you buy has had all this stuff addressed, otherwise I dotn think they are hugely problematic, A C55 could still throw big bills up.
BUG4LIFE said:
Smokey32 said:
BUG4LIFE said:
I really want to make a CLS 55 AMG my next car. I thought the cost of running one would be huge compared to a C55 (for example), but that might not be the case! It seems servicing, brakes etc don't have to cost the earth! Obviously is stuff goes wrong they can be costly.
That's what my research has lead me to believe at the mo anyway...maybe I'm wrong, so then I think I'd need to decide between a C55 and CLS 500 that the OP is asking about.
Running costs are quite a step on from a c55. The air suspension often goes and thats not cheap. The brakes have a complicated system and a pump that can fail that costs a grand just for the pump. Tyres are quite a bit bigger. The car is a lot more complicated.That's what my research has lead me to believe at the mo anyway...maybe I'm wrong, so then I think I'd need to decide between a C55 and CLS 500 that the OP is asking about.
I'd be more than happy with a C55 though (this one caught my eye - http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016...
If there was even the smallest chance of being able to have a near 500bhp car though, it would be hard to say no!
Im in my second c55, the one linked is hugley overpriced. No way its worth 15k. I paid 11k for mine and its got some lovely well sought after mods on it.
I have had my CLS55 for 2 1/2 years and it has needed nothing other than routine servicing. The major service with plugs etc was quite expensive, but otherwise it has been faultless. Worth noting that parts for the 55 are considerably cheaper than the 63. I tried both at a dealer and he advised me the 55 was the better car, which was odd given that the 63 he had was more money. I also realise it is sacrilege to suggest such a thing on PH, but I far preferred the 55 engine too.
I drove the 5.5 V8 (500) and I thought it was lovely. Smooth and powerful and was somewhat set on getting one of those. However, I did eventually try a 55 and that was that. I looked at a handful and took the plunge. I intended to keep the car for about 6 months, but I have utterly fallen for it.
I am extremely fortunate to have owned some great cars, but if I could only drive behind one engine for the rest of my life, it would be the 5.5 supercharged V8. I like the response, noise, instant go. I like everything about it.
Sadly, with another kid arrived, I do need that 3rd seat in the back and it has to go. Silver, all black interior, 69k miles. I'll take £10k for it. Need a big, fast estate.
I drove the 5.5 V8 (500) and I thought it was lovely. Smooth and powerful and was somewhat set on getting one of those. However, I did eventually try a 55 and that was that. I looked at a handful and took the plunge. I intended to keep the car for about 6 months, but I have utterly fallen for it.
I am extremely fortunate to have owned some great cars, but if I could only drive behind one engine for the rest of my life, it would be the 5.5 supercharged V8. I like the response, noise, instant go. I like everything about it.
Sadly, with another kid arrived, I do need that 3rd seat in the back and it has to go. Silver, all black interior, 69k miles. I'll take £10k for it. Need a big, fast estate.
WTFWT said:
I have had my CLS55 for 2 1/2 years and it has needed nothing other than routine servicing. The major service with plugs etc was quite expensive, but otherwise it has been faultless. Worth noting that parts for the 55 are considerably cheaper than the 63. I tried both at a dealer and he advised me the 55 was the better car, which was odd given that the 63 he had was more money. I also realise it is sacrilege to suggest such a thing on PH, but I far preferred the 55 engine too.
I drove the 5.5 V8 (500) and I thought it was lovely. Smooth and powerful and was somewhat set on getting one of those. However, I did eventually try a 55 and that was that. I looked at a handful and took the plunge. I intended to keep the car for about 6 months, but I have utterly fallen for it.
I am extremely fortunate to have owned some great cars, but if I could only drive behind one engine for the rest of my life, it would be the 5.5 supercharged V8. I like the response, noise, instant go. I like everything about it.
Sadly, with another kid arrived, I do need that 3rd seat in the back and it has to go. Silver, all black interior, 69k miles. I'll take £10k for it. Need a big, fast estate.
May I suggest a E55/63 Estate:I drove the 5.5 V8 (500) and I thought it was lovely. Smooth and powerful and was somewhat set on getting one of those. However, I did eventually try a 55 and that was that. I looked at a handful and took the plunge. I intended to keep the car for about 6 months, but I have utterly fallen for it.
I am extremely fortunate to have owned some great cars, but if I could only drive behind one engine for the rest of my life, it would be the 5.5 supercharged V8. I like the response, noise, instant go. I like everything about it.
Sadly, with another kid arrived, I do need that 3rd seat in the back and it has to go. Silver, all black interior, 69k miles. I'll take £10k for it. Need a big, fast estate.
2003 E55 58k
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016...
E63 74k
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2015...
ZX10R NIN said:
BUG4LIFE said:
I just meant general maintenance, as appose to if something brakes! Maybe I'd need to into warranties too?!
I'd be more than happy with a C55 though (this one caught my eye - http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016...
If there was even the smallest chance of being able to have a near 500bhp car though, it would be hard to say no!
You can get to 500bhp but you'd have to fit a Supercharger kit, my CLK55 is pretty much as far as you can go in N/A form & it's varied from 424-428bhp with 431 lbft.I'd be more than happy with a C55 though (this one caught my eye - http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016...
If there was even the smallest chance of being able to have a near 500bhp car though, it would be hard to say no!
Tuning wise I'd say the best gains come from Air Filters Manifolds Map & Exhaust, the cams added 18bhp but for the expense of buying & getting them fitted the cost outweighs the gain.
Smokey32 said:
BUG4LIFE said:
Smokey32 said:
BUG4LIFE said:
I really want to make a CLS 55 AMG my next car. I thought the cost of running one would be huge compared to a C55 (for example), but that might not be the case! It seems servicing, brakes etc don't have to cost the earth! Obviously is stuff goes wrong they can be costly.
That's what my research has lead me to believe at the mo anyway...maybe I'm wrong, so then I think I'd need to decide between a C55 and CLS 500 that the OP is asking about.
Running costs are quite a step on from a c55. The air suspension often goes and thats not cheap. The brakes have a complicated system and a pump that can fail that costs a grand just for the pump. Tyres are quite a bit bigger. The car is a lot more complicated.That's what my research has lead me to believe at the mo anyway...maybe I'm wrong, so then I think I'd need to decide between a C55 and CLS 500 that the OP is asking about.
I'd be more than happy with a C55 though (this one caught my eye - http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016...
If there was even the smallest chance of being able to have a near 500bhp car though, it would be hard to say no!
Im in my second c55, the one linked is hugley overpriced. No way its worth 15k. I paid 11k for mine and its got some lovely well sought after mods on it.
I guess that dealer reckons he can get that price due to small miles and that they hardly ever come up for sale? Wrong colour interior for me though, if I was in the market.
Another Ray Donovan fan here who is giving the CLS some thought to replace a gracefully ageing E65 BMW.
It would be the dirty diesel though - probably the 350cdi. My last Merc was the first gen SLK and was a nice car but generally unreliable POS. I'd be looking at 12/13 plate CLS, are Mercs better these days?
It would be the dirty diesel though - probably the 350cdi. My last Merc was the first gen SLK and was a nice car but generally unreliable POS. I'd be looking at 12/13 plate CLS, are Mercs better these days?
bennyboydurham said:
Another Ray Donovan fan here who is giving the CLS some thought to replace a gracefully ageing E65 BMW.
It would be the dirty diesel though - probably the 350cdi. My last Merc was the first gen SLK and was a nice car but generally unreliable POS. I'd be looking at 12/13 plate CLS, are Mercs better these days?
x2. I love the show and love that car of his. I presently drive an E350cdi and you can get a W218 CLS for around £17k - just brouse autotrader.It would be the dirty diesel though - probably the 350cdi. My last Merc was the first gen SLK and was a nice car but generally unreliable POS. I'd be looking at 12/13 plate CLS, are Mercs better these days?
They're a good step up over an E class/5 series. Stiffer body shell, nicer cabin, just more special with a great sense of occasion over the E class...which I love.
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