C63 AMG

[Keithp]

Just sold my m3 saloon, looking at either a used M5 Touring or a C63 Saloon as its replacement , had a look about and the ones that are within budget are cars without the performance pack , my question to owners is how nessesary is the slip diff is it actualy needed .

Is it worth me saving my pennies a while longer and holding out for a performance pack car .

Keith

[amg master]

I think you should hold out for a performance pack car there should be a few more available soon with the launch of the ppplus c63 so customers upgrading there pp cars.

what colour you thinking of going for?

[chiefski26]

dont think theres much difference in daily driving ive got one without its fine

[2 5HAN]

chiefski26 said:

dont think theres much difference in daily driving ive got one without its fine

+1

[amg master]

2 5HAN said:

chiefski26 said:

dont think theres much difference in daily driving ive got one without its fine

+1

but have you driven one with a ppack? i think there is loads of difference between the 2 the pp feels more tight and more grip compared 2 the normal 1.

[Keithp]

amg master said:

I think you should hold out for a performance pack car there should be a few more available soon with the launch of the ppplus c63 so customers upgrading there pp cars.

what colour you thinking of going for?

Qute open on colours as long as its not the bright silver , dark silver not sure what it is called , black , gray and white would all be acceptable as long as the rest of the spec is right.

Been reading and thinking if its worth considering a car with out the kit and fitting a coilover kit and a quaif diff may be easier than sourcing one with the bits.

Keith

[amg master]

Keithp said:

amg master said:

I think you should hold out for a performance pack car there should be a few more available soon with the launch of the ppplus c63 so customers upgrading there pp cars.

what colour you thinking of going for?

Qute open on colours as long as its not the bright silver , dark silver not sure what it is called , black , gray and white would all be acceptable as long as the rest of the spec is right.

Been reading and thinking if its worth considering a car with out the kit and fitting a coilover kit and a quaif diff may be easier than sourcing one with the bits.

Keith

wouldnt that work out quite expensive, how much is the quaif diff and the coilover kit?

youve got palladium silver and the darker one is tenorite grey.

[Keithp]

Have started looking at the suspension and diff prices this weekend , have a feeling it would work out at about 4k but thats a bit of a guess.

I have only seen one pp car advertised privatly and the ones on the MB Website are well out of my budet. so would open up cars i am currently turning down.

One question and seems a bit of a silly one , do they blip the throttle on down changes in sport, or is that only on the later cars , the one i drove in Brookands did not and i seem to recall the sales guys saying it was something that would be coming on later cars.

Keith

[2 5HAN]

amg master said:

2 5HAN said:

chiefski26 said:

dont think theres much difference in daily driving ive got one without its fine

+1

but have you driven one with a ppack? i think there is loads of difference between the 2 the pp feels more tight and more grip compared 2 the normal 1.

Yes drove mine and a friends C63 with PP pack, back to back.

Perhaps just a personal choice but i found it slightly to hard a ride for me, seemed to tram line and jump a lot more on the road than my car.

I am sure that on a track the differences would be noticeable.

I think for the difference in money, if you weren't going on the track then the 4k could be spent on a Re-Map which would be far more noticeable

[amg master]

2 5HAN said:

amg master said:

2 5HAN said:

chiefski26 said:

dont think theres much difference in daily driving ive got one without its fine

+1

but have you driven one with a ppack? i think there is loads of difference between the 2 the pp feels more tight and more grip compared 2 the normal 1.

Yes drove mine and a friends C63 with PP pack, back to back.

Perhaps just a personal choice but i found it slightly to hard a ride for me, seemed to tram line and jump a lot more on the road than my car.

I am sure that on a track the differences would be noticeable.

I think for the difference in money, if you weren't going on the track then the 4k could be spent on a Re-Map which would be far more noticeable

thats strange i find the one with pp holds the road really well more precise.

i think that the sports suspension on the pp car made it handle better, but many people found it a little uncomfortable so on the ppplus cars they have removed the sports suspension which i think they should have left.

the other thing is that i dont think the £3210 that the pp was expensive for what you got for it

1,limited slip diff
2, alacantara steering wheel
3,ceramic disc
4,sport suspension

with the new ppplus its nearly £7000 without the sport suspension.


the remap is definatley worth it for the upgrade in power.

did you get yours done 2 shan?

[2 5HAN]

To be fair i drove a 2008 PP car not the latest PP car so there may be a difference

I guess for the OP you would have to choose depending on how you drive and where you will use it the majority of the time.

Have no problems with handling on mine, the tyres however thats a different matter lol

[croydon]

There s a few PP pack cars at Merc dealers still but there doesn't seem to be any on OPH oither than the red baron car.. which I actually like strangley, kinda reminds me of one of my old dads cars he owned a 500 sec amg.

[Keithp]

There is one less now not seen it or driven it that said the dealer has not seen it either !


Keith

[chiefski26]

details ?

[Keithp]

Tennorite Gray / black leather , 6k miles , pp, command , delimit , 19'' few other bits but onece they had told me about the pp and the delimit i stopped listening !

[Keithp]

they have just mailed me the full spec

Performance Pack
AMG Floor Mats
Parktronic
AMG Drivers Pack
Side Rear Air Bags
Twin Cup Holder
Telephone Pre-Wiring
Linguatronic
Limited Slip Diff
COMAND
DAB Digital Radio
Luxury Climate Control
Bi-Xenon Lights
Fire Extinguisher
19” AMG Alloy Wheels
Harmon Kardon
Heated Screen Wash

[chiefski26]

nice :O)

[croydon]

Keith r u on PGT?

[Keithp]

Not mentioned it on there yet! i'm going to get no end of grief , i was selling to m3 to save money and buy somethng i could get the kids kit into , failed on the first and only made the second by the skin of my teeth as the car has through load ! well failed big time an the trying to save cash bit.


Keith

Edited by Keithp on Friday 19th March 12:00

[croydon]

Your secrets safe with me, I am still thinking of going down the 2nd hand C63 route rather than the new RS5 as it has 4 doors and saves me a few quid. Performance must be near the same with the PP I am guessing.


Ian (Sutters on PGT)