Sublime Pandamonium II
Discussion
Mr2Mike said:
Have you seen the Panda 4x4 that Wheeler Dealers bodged up? If someone pays £3200 for that, then I reckon you must be sitting on a small fortune 
Yes. I was outbid by the Wheeler Dealers when the car was still silver. Properly restored that Panda would be worth close to £5,000
Wheeler Dealers listed the car on eBay with a £1,000 stating price about a month ago and the listing was removed with a day to go because there were no bids.The car was allegedly sold on the show (to an extra who appeared in Alan Partridge "Alpha Papa", and works as a part time model) for £2,500 only to be put on an eBay traders page with the original Wheeler Dealers listing and photo's for a £700 mark up the day the show was aired.
It's worth less now than the £1,000 I bid for it when the car was in a field. Seriously in that state the most I would pay is £600
It will take £3,000 to restore the car properly.
Having watched a few Wheeler Dealer shows over the years there is a pattern to it. A few basic repairs, run a polishing mop over it and sell it as advertised "fully restored" for a profit or occasionally do a Bernie and Lepu job and sell on the show but the cars are never seen again. I have to admit this car has annoyed me a little more than most but the show has spawned a generation of driveway bodgers and car flippers who believe the magic of television and think they can sell a repaired and polished car for a "fully restored" price.
You can't it's called fraud.
I'm not a follower of the show.
The Porsche 914 they did basic repairs, run a mop over it and sold it back to the guy who they bought it from "fully restored".
The Morgan they replaced the chassis, fitted modified rear suspension and didn't replace anything else, sold it "fully restored" when it wasn't.
Even back in old days the MkI Golf GTI, they replaced the wheels, removed the chrome trim and fitted red trim from a breakers yard, washed it and sold it "fully restored".
The show takes the piss.
The Porsche 914 they did basic repairs, run a mop over it and sold it back to the guy who they bought it from "fully restored".
The Morgan they replaced the chassis, fitted modified rear suspension and didn't replace anything else, sold it "fully restored" when it wasn't.
Even back in old days the MkI Golf GTI, they replaced the wheels, removed the chrome trim and fitted red trim from a breakers yard, washed it and sold it "fully restored".
The show takes the piss.
They are rocking horse poo in the UK there was one for sale in France and nearly got on a train until I found it wasn't a runner.
There's one on the Fiat Forum for £150 but you literally need to dig it out of a field (before I do).
I miss my MkI 4x4, the 965cc engine is arguably better than the 999 FIRE but the Steyr Puch running gear is bombproof.
There's one on the Fiat Forum for £150 but you literally need to dig it out of a field (before I do).
I miss my MkI 4x4, the 965cc engine is arguably better than the 999 FIRE but the Steyr Puch running gear is bombproof.
Found my digital tachometer in my bedroom today and decided to use a spare clock trim and fit it.
Looks good, powers up but will not work from the coilpacks. It needs a traditional coil to operate.
Still gave me something to do today waiting for the scrap FTO shell to be taken away and an eBay seller to get back to me with a time to collect parts for my other project.
I did take the washer bottle out, clean the gunk out of it so now I may be able to wash my windscreen instead of making it worse.
Looks good, powers up but will not work from the coilpacks. It needs a traditional coil to operate.
Still gave me something to do today waiting for the scrap FTO shell to be taken away and an eBay seller to get back to me with a time to collect parts for my other project.
I did take the washer bottle out, clean the gunk out of it so now I may be able to wash my windscreen instead of making it worse.
One of my headlight bulbs smashed after a few potholes. So I had to take it off and clean this mess out...
...I fitted some clear square side repeaters to go with the clear indicators while I was at it.
My Pandas will have company soon...
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/111785261406?_trksid=p20...
...one of only eight Y10 FIRE models in the UK and 53,000 miles I'm guessing one of the lowest.
But if you'd like one of the other twenty nine Panda Fizz's left in the UK here's...
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/371454811635?_trksid=p20...
...your chance.
...I fitted some clear square side repeaters to go with the clear indicators while I was at it.
My Pandas will have company soon...
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/111785261406?_trksid=p20...
...one of only eight Y10 FIRE models in the UK and 53,000 miles I'm guessing one of the lowest.
But if you'd like one of the other twenty nine Panda Fizz's left in the UK here's...
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/371454811635?_trksid=p20...
...your chance.
I find these "Dub Scene" types hilarious.
A friend took me to a VW thing at Santa Pod the other week and all the T5 vans having to go round speed ramps because they have stupid wheels or ones nicked from an Audi/Bentley was a clear example of Darwinian thinking.
Why do these idiots do it? If they can't cope with a speed ramp at three miles per hour I'd hate to be anywhere near aone if they hit a pot hole at fifty. Van! Just because you've put some Ikea furniture and a bucket in the back does not make it a camper.
Why buy an old knackered builders van for £5,000 spend another £5,000 on rubbish paint (and a wrapped bonnet), suspension that doesn't suspend at all, nicked or stupid wheels, windows cut into the sides without supporting the internal cross members, some folding deck chairs and try to sell it for £25,000 when you or anyone with an IQ higher than a drainpipe can go and buy a camper the same age as your death trap van for £8,000???
Best of all because it's still registered as a van you get speeding tickets left right and centre because you're too thick to realise all the crap in the back means you have to stick to the 7.5 ton limits.
If you want to be a hipster buy and ruin a Golf if you want to go camping buy a camper. If you want to be a hipster camper buy a towing frame for the Golf and pull it with your camper.
Survival of the fittest has become survival of dem birds is like well fit innit bruv, Br-br-br-br-brap! Brap! Chair.
A friend took me to a VW thing at Santa Pod the other week and all the T5 vans having to go round speed ramps because they have stupid wheels or ones nicked from an Audi/Bentley was a clear example of Darwinian thinking.
Why do these idiots do it? If they can't cope with a speed ramp at three miles per hour I'd hate to be anywhere near aone if they hit a pot hole at fifty. Van! Just because you've put some Ikea furniture and a bucket in the back does not make it a camper.
Why buy an old knackered builders van for £5,000 spend another £5,000 on rubbish paint (and a wrapped bonnet), suspension that doesn't suspend at all, nicked or stupid wheels, windows cut into the sides without supporting the internal cross members, some folding deck chairs and try to sell it for £25,000 when you or anyone with an IQ higher than a drainpipe can go and buy a camper the same age as your death trap van for £8,000???
Best of all because it's still registered as a van you get speeding tickets left right and centre because you're too thick to realise all the crap in the back means you have to stick to the 7.5 ton limits.
If you want to be a hipster buy and ruin a Golf if you want to go camping buy a camper. If you want to be a hipster camper buy a towing frame for the Golf and pull it with your camper.
Survival of the fittest has become survival of dem birds is like well fit innit bruv, Br-br-br-br-brap! Brap! Chair.
And breathe out...
...back on topic.
I have washed my Lancia. It's the best way to do a full body paint and M.O.T assessment.
Ayia Napa, Ayia Napa...
Okay the paint will need a few more washes to be presentable but a full respray will be required if I decide to sell. Fiat 296/A White so a nice easy colour to get hold of.
Body, the floor and underside are perfect. Zebarted from new. The top of the drivers door is as bad as the bottom so I think I'll find another one. Just as well the car needs a respray at least the door will be the same colour now.
The only concerning bodywork I need to do is the upper part of the front valance where the radiator is. That has all but rusted away and that will involve a trip to Italy to get the replacement part.
Mechanical, the exhaust had a misdiagnosed crack in the manifold. It's the £3.99 gasket between the manifold and down pipe. The handbrake is rubbish and the rear brakes almost nonexistent. New shoes £6.99, wheel cylinders £8.99 and handbrake cable £12.99. Also one of the tyres is bald due to running flat and where the car has been stood around the sidewalls are starting to perish. £100-£150 for all five.
Now the fun part...
Electrical, it'll be easier to list what works. Engine, electric windows, central locking, windscreen wiper and washer jets. That's it.
I'm thinking fuses and hedgehogs.
The brand new headlights are left hand drive so I'll have to get the old ones out of the boot, clean them up and swap the clear indicators over.
That's about it. £180 car, £200-ish for the M.O.T and £100 paint and supplies.
...back on topic.
I have washed my Lancia. It's the best way to do a full body paint and M.O.T assessment.
Ayia Napa, Ayia Napa...
Okay the paint will need a few more washes to be presentable but a full respray will be required if I decide to sell. Fiat 296/A White so a nice easy colour to get hold of.
Body, the floor and underside are perfect. Zebarted from new. The top of the drivers door is as bad as the bottom so I think I'll find another one. Just as well the car needs a respray at least the door will be the same colour now.
The only concerning bodywork I need to do is the upper part of the front valance where the radiator is. That has all but rusted away and that will involve a trip to Italy to get the replacement part.
Mechanical, the exhaust had a misdiagnosed crack in the manifold. It's the £3.99 gasket between the manifold and down pipe. The handbrake is rubbish and the rear brakes almost nonexistent. New shoes £6.99, wheel cylinders £8.99 and handbrake cable £12.99. Also one of the tyres is bald due to running flat and where the car has been stood around the sidewalls are starting to perish. £100-£150 for all five.
Now the fun part...
Electrical, it'll be easier to list what works. Engine, electric windows, central locking, windscreen wiper and washer jets. That's it.
I'm thinking fuses and hedgehogs.
The brand new headlights are left hand drive so I'll have to get the old ones out of the boot, clean them up and swap the clear indicators over.
That's about it. £180 car, £200-ish for the M.O.T and £100 paint and supplies.
Edited by Liquid Knight on Wednesday 14th October 16:13
james_tigerwoods said:
Liquid Knight said:
Electrical, it'll be easier to list what works. Engine, electric windows, central locking, windscreen wiper and washer jets. That's it.
I'm thinking fuses and hedgehogs.
I've just snorted coffee out of my nose. Thanks I'm thinking fuses and hedgehogs.
Liquid Knight said:
One of the problems all Panda have are the earth hedgehogs getting a layer of cack on them.
An online search suggested my Y10 was a diesel?
Nope.
The Fizz overheats a bit in traffic and the radiator condition was an advisory item in the M.O.T so time for a new one before it gets cold enough to become an issue.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/391046956443?_trksid=p20...
The listing says "Walsall, United Kingdom" but the radiator is coming from Holland and will take up to a week.
Nope.
The Fizz overheats a bit in traffic and the radiator condition was an advisory item in the M.O.T so time for a new one before it gets cold enough to become an issue.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/391046956443?_trksid=p20...
The listing says "Walsall, United Kingdom" but the radiator is coming from Holland and will take up to a week.
A job over ran by an hour so instead of doing what I had planned I thought I'd have a look at swapping the Y10's blowing manifold-downpipe gasket.
Turns out it is a pre-sheared bolt causing the issue and I haven't enough time to take the manifold off, extract or drill out the stud and refit it, so I've got nothing done today at all.
Apart from fitting P45T bulbs to the headlights so now all the electrical system works.
I think the exhaust and rear brakes will be all that's needed for the M.O.T
Turns out it is a pre-sheared bolt causing the issue and I haven't enough time to take the manifold off, extract or drill out the stud and refit it, so I've got nothing done today at all.
Apart from fitting P45T bulbs to the headlights so now all the electrical system works.
I think the exhaust and rear brakes will be all that's needed for the M.O.T
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