Great Italian car thread

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Fantuzzi

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145 months

Sunday 6th July 2014
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P5Nij said:
jacklewisno1 said:
As for that red Maser' above, i saw one of those at Stanford too. I think it was the cup version. Ill be honest it looked boxey and rather ugly. Imagine it had a different badge, such as Buick, nobody would look twice.
You're probably right about that, if it weren't for the trident on the grille etc not many folk would know what it was. As we parked up close by my other half asked if it was a Lancia...
Id like a mad ass Ghibli Cup, I just wish it looked like the Shamal...





You can tell PHers have no class, the 312PB thread got only 26 comments!

jacklewisno1

376 posts

143 months

Wednesday 9th July 2014
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Knight, i hope your going to make that x1/9 into an Abarth version like this... http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C454583

Fantuzzi, what a surprise a black car!!!

Fantuzzi

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145 months

Wednesday 9th July 2014
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jacklewisno1 said:
Knight, i hope your going to make that x1/9 into an Abarth version like this... http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C454583

Fantuzzi, what a surprise a black car!!!
fk you...



Metallic Green Alfa, there you go wink

Id love a muscle car Montreal, tune the engine to stupid levels of power and some of those ridiculous drag racing wheels...yummy.

jacklewisno1

376 posts

143 months

Wednesday 9th July 2014
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Fantuzzi said:
fk you...



Metallic Green Alfa, there you go wink

Id love a muscle car Montreal, tune the engine to stupid levels of power and some of those ridiculous drag racing wheels...yummy.
That picture is a re post from a year ago, is this thread losing its originality?

Is the drag racer something you've seen before or just an idea? It would be interesting to see what it would look like. Did you see the Fiat 126 drag racers at Silverstone last year? Watching them beat the Vipers was hilarious!!

Fantuzzi

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145 months

Wednesday 9th July 2014
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jacklewisno1 said:
Fantuzzi said:
fk you...



Metallic Green Alfa, there you go wink

Id love a muscle car Montreal, tune the engine to stupid levels of power and some of those ridiculous drag racing wheels...yummy.
That picture is a re post from a year ago, is this thread losing its originality?

Is the drag racer something you've seen before or just an idea? It would be interesting to see what it would look like. Did you see the Fiat 126 drag racers at Silverstone last year? Watching them beat the Vipers was hilarious!!
Hey its not my fault, Italians should build better modern cars laugh

It was an idea I had a while ago, all my own. It was when reading how they were aimed at the American market and that they didn't handle as well as expected, but where comfortable as fairly quick.

Looks wise Id keep it standard as possible, but just some rather wide tires on the rear, seriously wide. Maybe enhance the bonnet scoop to allow some more air into the v8.

It would be fun but rather expensive!

No I must have missed the 126!

iva cosworth

44,044 posts

162 months

Friday 11th July 2014
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3rd attempt at posting,this useless computer !!!!

Been off on my travels again,about to post but noticed "dinkel" visited the same museum in The Hague

and posted the Italian stuff first,no bother.

And Jack a yellow Barchetta is nice eye candy to someone with a silver one.



Taken in the same spot as a Cosworth pic 4 years ago.



and under a huge over bridge/town bypass build project in Sundsvall.





Edited by iva cosworth on Friday 11th July 17:30

iva cosworth

44,044 posts

162 months

Friday 11th July 2014
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More from The Hague,a Fiat 850 Shellette ,beach car thingamy.


iva cosworth

44,044 posts

162 months

Saturday 12th July 2014
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From the Midnight Sun Rally which was still going today but I had to return home early.













The 131s and X 1/9 are entered in the Regularity rally so not rallying per se.

The Integrale is a course car but still going quicker than the Regularity runners.








dinkel

26,863 posts

257 months

Saturday 12th July 2014
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iva cosworth said:
More from The Hague,a Fiat 850 Shellette ,beach car thingamy.

More Louwman here: http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

dinkel

26,863 posts

257 months

Wednesday 16th July 2014
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Fantuzzi

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145 months

Wednesday 16th July 2014
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dinkel said:
I was going to post that up myself, Petrolicious have got some bloody brilliant Ferrari racer videos now, 250 GTO 312pb, now this.

I'd love to see how one of the early 70s protoype racers stack up against a more modern track day car like a bac mono, radical, ariel 500 or the like, whether time would tell in the dynamic element or if the cars are as sharp as they look!

jacklewisno1

376 posts

143 months

Wednesday 16th July 2014
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I was going to post that one up to. I think this one is much more interesting though.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7C2O_L2SpEg&li...

dinkel

26,863 posts

257 months

Thursday 17th July 2014
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Check tracktimes - I remember Spa has lists. These 60s and 70s beasts look awfull quick but compared to modern rubber and geometry they don't stand a chance.

I read 2:43 on a wet surface for a - non downforce - Bac Mono.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yEzlvy9pRM

That's Olli in a 500 brake helluvah T70 Mk3B. The 330 at 2:28? nono Not even with Olli onboard. I will ask Olli what he thinks.

Fantuzzi

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Thursday 17th July 2014
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dinkel said:
Check tracktimes - I remember Spa has lists. These 60s and 70s beasts look awfull quick but compared to modern rubber and geometry they don't stand a chance.

I read 2:43 on a wet surface for a - non downforce - Bac Mono.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yEzlvy9pRM

That's Olli in a 500 brake helluvah T70 Mk3B. The 330 at 2:28? nono Not even with Olli onboard. I will ask Olli what he thinks.
It was more the feel than laptimes I was thinking of, so body control was my main thinking. Modern tyre technology will seem leaps and bounds ahead, so grip wise the older cars will be lacking so I expected laptimes to suffer.

It was more if they would feel as flat and sharp as you'd think, if you jumped out of a radical, atom or 2 11, would they seem soft and roll about compared to the modern machines. I think comparing a 70s prototype to a cf tubbed car might be a bit cruel by me, so I'll ignore the BAC Mono for now.

At first my thoughts have always been if the suspension is all top notch and recently refurbished, then it shouldn't feel that different to modern track day cars given the weights are very similar, but modern tires have so little sidewall compared to the old racers I wonder if the tire shape and sizes would be what ages the experience in terms of body control.

Sadly without having a day at the track with some rather awesome cars I wont know until Ive driven a car of that vintage!

jacklewisno1

376 posts

143 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2014
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That hot rod Montreal you dream't about Tuzzi, would it sound like this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=md6E_PBCgaM

dinkel

26,863 posts

257 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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This summer 2004 - 10 years ago! - MIURA-topic started the PH-craze for me ...

errek72

943 posts

245 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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Congrats Dinkel biggrin

Did anyone mention "Montreal" and "sound" in the same sentence?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXFm166ov-E

jacklewisno1

376 posts

143 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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errek72 said:
Congrats Dinkel biggrin

Did anyone mention "Montreal" and "sound" in the same sentence?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXFm166ov-E
biggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrin



Fantuzzi

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Thursday 24th July 2014
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jacklewisno1 said:
That hot rod Montreal you dream't about Tuzzi, would it sound like this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=md6E_PBCgaM
I was thinking more of a classic Alfa high revving scream...

errek72 said:
Congrats Dinkel biggrin

Did anyone mention "Montreal" and "sound" in the same sentence?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXFm166ov-E
Much like this this ^!

I remember seeing that some time ago, awesome sound, looks stunning as well in race trim.

If they were cheaper Id consider one as a everyday classic as they are meant to be a great tourer in period.

dinkel

26,863 posts

257 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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1962 Alfa Romeo Touring Spider & FIAT 206 Spider Dino.


1962 Alfa Romeo Touring Spider badge.


Wonderfull details.


Fiat 124 Sport Spider, built by Pininfarina. Such an overlooked classic.


Another often neglected Italian is the Giulia Mk2, the Nuova super.


Maybe not as handsome as the 60s Giulia, but hey: it's an Alfa!


From the aesthetic point of view there's a point though ...


Only a 1.3? It goes like a 2014 1.6 saloon.