Fiat Coupe 16V Turbo restoration project
Discussion
I recently bought a Bravo HLX and immediately thought of finding a Coupe 16V Turbo to swap engines over and build "the car Fiat should have" but as you can tell I've decided to try and rescue the car instead. I prefer the way the 16V engine delivers power and with the reduced weight up front compared to the 20V I prefer the way the 16V handles. Knowing what the engines are capable of it will be hard not to get "ye olde tuning forke" out.
Here's the fail list...
MOT history of this vehicle
Test date 20 September 2014
Test Result Fail
Odometer reading 75,687 miles
MOT test number 8352 2316 4280
Reason(s) for failure
Offside Stop lamp not working (1.2.1b)
Nearside rear parking brake recording little or no effort (3.7.B.6a)
Offside Front Suspension component mounting prescribed area is excessively corroded (2.4.A.3)
Nearside front brake binding (3.7.B.1)
Offside front brake binding (3.7.B.1)
Parking brake: efficiency below requirements (3.7.B.7)
Advisory notice item(s)
Nearside Front Lower Suspension arm has slight play in a ball joint (2.4.G.2)
Offside Front Lower Suspension arm has slight play in a ball joint (2.4.G.2)
Oil leak
front brake discs rusty
underside of vehicle and outer sills starting to corrode.
...from eighteen months ago. I can't imagine sitting about has done any good.
Here are the photo's I have been sent (haven't seen the car yet but put a deposit down as soon as I could)
Right on the project donor boarder line.
Either way I'll have my work cut out for me. MOT'd 16V Coupe's are getting good money these days but like all of my cars this is not a profit making exercise.
Here's the fail list...
MOT history of this vehicle
Test date 20 September 2014
Test Result Fail
Odometer reading 75,687 miles
MOT test number 8352 2316 4280
Reason(s) for failure
Offside Stop lamp not working (1.2.1b)
Nearside rear parking brake recording little or no effort (3.7.B.6a)
Offside Front Suspension component mounting prescribed area is excessively corroded (2.4.A.3)
Nearside front brake binding (3.7.B.1)
Offside front brake binding (3.7.B.1)
Parking brake: efficiency below requirements (3.7.B.7)
Advisory notice item(s)
Nearside Front Lower Suspension arm has slight play in a ball joint (2.4.G.2)
Offside Front Lower Suspension arm has slight play in a ball joint (2.4.G.2)
Oil leak
front brake discs rusty
underside of vehicle and outer sills starting to corrode.
...from eighteen months ago. I can't imagine sitting about has done any good.
Here are the photo's I have been sent (haven't seen the car yet but put a deposit down as soon as I could)
Right on the project donor boarder line.
Either way I'll have my work cut out for me. MOT'd 16V Coupe's are getting good money these days but like all of my cars this is not a profit making exercise.
So today I drove to see the car in the flash as it were.
She started first turn of the key with a jump and the downpipe was a bit blowy near the flexipipe where they always go.
The brakes are...
...very rusty but free. I was thinking of taking a set of discs and pads when I collect the car so it would be safer to drive home. I'll wrap the flexipipe and replace it at home unless I have time to do it on the spot.
One of the wheels...
...needs replacing, the headlights are a bit milky and the tail lights...
...are a pretty good nature reserve but mechanically the car is sound. Cosmetically?
Dent under the drivers side tail light, rear bumper and boot lid where the old girl has hit a post from the looks of it. Dent on the bonnet where someone has leaned on it to change the wiper (the one most Coupe's get near the headlight). New rear bumper, new boot lid, respray and other touch ups (aluminum mirror bits and the other usual suspects).
Also I need to strip...
...red paint from the engine. Looks nice from a distance but terrible up close.
At least the boot...
...wired up for a sub.
I am really looking forward to this.
She started first turn of the key with a jump and the downpipe was a bit blowy near the flexipipe where they always go.
The brakes are...
...very rusty but free. I was thinking of taking a set of discs and pads when I collect the car so it would be safer to drive home. I'll wrap the flexipipe and replace it at home unless I have time to do it on the spot.
One of the wheels...
...needs replacing, the headlights are a bit milky and the tail lights...
...are a pretty good nature reserve but mechanically the car is sound. Cosmetically?
Dent under the drivers side tail light, rear bumper and boot lid where the old girl has hit a post from the looks of it. Dent on the bonnet where someone has leaned on it to change the wiper (the one most Coupe's get near the headlight). New rear bumper, new boot lid, respray and other touch ups (aluminum mirror bits and the other usual suspects).
Also I need to strip...
...red paint from the engine. Looks nice from a distance but terrible up close.
At least the boot...
...wired up for a sub.
I am really looking forward to this.
Thank you. That's brilliant. 
I found a pair of wheels in Lincoln...
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/131735207603?_trksid=p20...
...I'll let you know about the other bits as soon as. Where are you based?
I found a pair of wheels in Lincoln...
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/131735207603?_trksid=p20...
...I'll let you know about the other bits as soon as. Where are you based?
Liquid Knight said:
Thank you. That's brilliant.
I found a pair of wheels in Lincoln...
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/131735207603?_trksid=p20...
...I'll let you know about the other bits as soon as. Where are you based?
I'm sure you checked but just in case, the 16V turbo has 16" wheels and the 16/20V NA have 15". They are exactly the same design unfortunately.....I found a pair of wheels in Lincoln...
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/131735207603?_trksid=p20...
...I'll let you know about the other bits as soon as. Where are you based?
wal 45 said:
I'm sure you checked but just in case, the 16V turbo has 16" wheels and the 16/20V NA have 15". They are exactly the same design unfortunately.....
Fiat had an annoying habit of doing that. I bought a set of Cromodore 14's from a Strada Abarth for my Panda by mistake. Luckily I left them in my shed and sold them to a mate restoring an Abarth a few years later. I still have a set of six Uno turbo ones in there. They are 16's. So I'll keep the two from Lincoln so I can have a set of five and the bent one will make a coffee table or something.
I also got these...
...for my Bravo but I'm a little underwhelmed to be honest.
Liquid Knight said:
None of the pics in your first post work btw.
Looking forward to seeing the progress, good to see them being saved, rather than chopped up. A new friendly forum has opened up for the Coupe here: http://www.fcog.co.uk/
and there is also a Farcebook group which is good for sourcing parts.
Evoluzione said:
Reminds me of this:
None of the pics in your first post work btw.
Looking forward to seeing the progress, good to see them being saved, rather than chopped up. A new friendly forum has opened up for the Coupe here: http://www.fcog.co.uk/
and there is also a Farcebook group which is good for sourcing parts.
They're the Facebook message photo's so probably some copyright transfer issue. I'm on the Fiat Forum already and these guys...None of the pics in your first post work btw.
Looking forward to seeing the progress, good to see them being saved, rather than chopped up. A new friendly forum has opened up for the Coupe here: http://www.fcog.co.uk/
and there is also a Farcebook group which is good for sourcing parts.
https://www.facebook.com/NJS-Fiat-Alfa-Romeo-Abart...
...know a thing or two about the 16V turbo engine.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/fiat-coupe-16v-turbo-/17...
Modified, higher mileage and 20V leather seats. Worth keeping an eye on eh?
Modified, higher mileage and 20V leather seats. Worth keeping an eye on eh?
Liquid Knight said:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/fiat-coupe-16v-turbo-/17...
Modified, higher mileage and 20V leather seats. Worth keeping an eye on eh?
They're 16vt seats, I recognise that one from somewhere though....Modified, higher mileage and 20V leather seats. Worth keeping an eye on eh?
It's certainly a better car than this thing: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/281948892088?_trksid=p20...
Check out the oil pressure too.....
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/120943051743?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
I like the look of this bumper. With more purposeful fog lights it would make the car look a little like the TWR XJ220S.
Sorry my mind keeps straying from "restoration" to "modification".
I like the look of this bumper. With more purposeful fog lights it would make the car look a little like the TWR XJ220S.
Sorry my mind keeps straying from "restoration" to "modification".
Liquid Knight said:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/120943051743?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
I like the look of this bumper. With more purposeful fog lights it would make the car look a little like the TWR XJ220S.
Sorry my mind keeps straying from "restoration" to "modification".
Another link which doesn't work, are you new to the internet? I like the look of this bumper. With more purposeful fog lights it would make the car look a little like the TWR XJ220S.
Sorry my mind keeps straying from "restoration" to "modification".
Anyhow, enough arsing around, when are we going to see some badly linked to action and pics?
When I collect the car. I'll either take a mate, book it into MOT, fix the brakes and drive home or tow it.
I'm back at work Friday and have a track day on the 18th so it may be some time yet.
All the links and photo's work from my Laptop and PC maybe you need to delete some cookies.
I'm back at work Friday and have a track day on the 18th so it may be some time yet.
All the links and photo's work from my Laptop and PC maybe you need to delete some cookies.
227bhp said:
Oh I see, I thought you'd already bought it.
I'm not sure how you will get an MOT on that looking at the lengthy failure list which is now (some 18 months on) a lot longer?
I bought it site unseen just working out the logistics to collect it. I'm not sure how you will get an MOT on that looking at the lengthy failure list which is now (some 18 months on) a lot longer?
There is no doubt in my mind the car will fail the MOT quite spectacularly but I can't drive the old girl on the road without a pre-booked test. Towing is a faff and finding a trailer wide enough is near impossible.
Shipley or similar would be £200+ I'd rather spend on the car.
Liquid Knight said:
227bhp said:
Oh I see, I thought you'd already bought it.
I'm not sure how you will get an MOT on that looking at the lengthy failure list which is now (some 18 months on) a lot longer?
I bought it site unseen just working out the logistics to collect it. I'm not sure how you will get an MOT on that looking at the lengthy failure list which is now (some 18 months on) a lot longer?
There is no doubt in my mind the car will fail the MOT quite spectacularly but I can't drive the old girl on the road without a pre-booked test. Towing is a faff and finding a trailer wide enough is near impossible.
Shipley or similar would be £200+ I'd rather spend on the car.
£55 per day. You just need something which will legally tow it....
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