Fiat Coupe 16V Turbo restoration project
Discussion
Not at all.
The Lancia will give the most head and heart ache. Very few in the UK and not many parts around.
The Cinquecento/Seicento platform is the natural habitat for the FIRE series of engines but you will need an 1108cc Sporting otherwise engine mounts and bell housings are different. There isn't a lot of space under the bonnet and they are Polska FIAT so the panels are crazy glued on. If you need to cut out rust expect welding to be a smelly process.
The Punto is a better bet. You can fit a newer 1.4 SuperFIRE in there with ease (compared to the Cinquecento/Seicento it can and has been done but expect more faff) and obviously Punto GT bits bolt straight on instead of needing modification. I'd look for a clean Mk1...
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1998-MK1-FIAT-PUNTO-SPOR...
...take the 85hp 1242cc 16V out and get a Bravo t-jet 150 donor. Aim for around the £600-800 mark for an 07-08 car and sell the bits you don't use to get most of the outlay back. You'll need to either remove and replac the entire loom or bypass the immobiliser with an after market ecu.
Avoid the Mk2 Punto as the electric power steering is as crap as it is reliable.
If you want to stick to traditional FIRE and basic upgrades. I have a Punto 60 1242 8V (narrower block than the 75) 866 cam' (from a 75) and base plate for a bike carb' conversion. That should drop into any of the above platforms. My mate has a Punto GT rear beam with calipers, discs, springs and shocks for a parts bin brake and suspension upgrade and I'm here to help.
The Lancia will give the most head and heart ache. Very few in the UK and not many parts around.
The Cinquecento/Seicento platform is the natural habitat for the FIRE series of engines but you will need an 1108cc Sporting otherwise engine mounts and bell housings are different. There isn't a lot of space under the bonnet and they are Polska FIAT so the panels are crazy glued on. If you need to cut out rust expect welding to be a smelly process.
The Punto is a better bet. You can fit a newer 1.4 SuperFIRE in there with ease (compared to the Cinquecento/Seicento it can and has been done but expect more faff) and obviously Punto GT bits bolt straight on instead of needing modification. I'd look for a clean Mk1...
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1998-MK1-FIAT-PUNTO-SPOR...
...take the 85hp 1242cc 16V out and get a Bravo t-jet 150 donor. Aim for around the £600-800 mark for an 07-08 car and sell the bits you don't use to get most of the outlay back. You'll need to either remove and replac the entire loom or bypass the immobiliser with an after market ecu.
Avoid the Mk2 Punto as the electric power steering is as crap as it is reliable.
If you want to stick to traditional FIRE and basic upgrades. I have a Punto 60 1242 8V (narrower block than the 75) 866 cam' (from a 75) and base plate for a bike carb' conversion. That should drop into any of the above platforms. My mate has a Punto GT rear beam with calipers, discs, springs and shocks for a parts bin brake and suspension upgrade and I'm here to help.
I have my Fiat Coupe up on ramps to WD-40 the nuts and bolts to fit the new down pipe but it looks to be fine.
I can't feel it leaking and there are signs it isn't as old as I expected.
However none of the gaskets have ever been replaced including the manifold gasket where a crack has been previously welded.
I might just need a new exhaust to turbo, turbo to cat' gasket set or the manifold may be cracked again.
The oil leak I thought was due to the chav'd cam' cover and gasket not being replaced could be due to the filler around the hot oil feed to the sump from the turbo. Another bodge as the sump has no gasket either and what feels like tile silicone adhesive.
So as I have the old girl on ramps I may as well drain the sump, take it off, get it blasted, welded (to replace the filler) if possible or replaced with a new gasket. Take the manifold off, check for cracks repair or replace all with new gaskets, nuts and bolts.
I'm beginning to wonder if it's worth it again.
I can't feel it leaking and there are signs it isn't as old as I expected.
However none of the gaskets have ever been replaced including the manifold gasket where a crack has been previously welded.
I might just need a new exhaust to turbo, turbo to cat' gasket set or the manifold may be cracked again.
The oil leak I thought was due to the chav'd cam' cover and gasket not being replaced could be due to the filler around the hot oil feed to the sump from the turbo. Another bodge as the sump has no gasket either and what feels like tile silicone adhesive.
So as I have the old girl on ramps I may as well drain the sump, take it off, get it blasted, welded (to replace the filler) if possible or replaced with a new gasket. Take the manifold off, check for cracks repair or replace all with new gaskets, nuts and bolts.
I'm beginning to wonder if it's worth it again.
Threaded pipe ends welded to the flange on the cat' and the bolts are so rusted they rounded off. The whole exhaust has to come off so I can remove the cat' and down pipe together, grind out the bolts and refit the whole system. 
I would have thought replacement sump pans would be available considering the lineage of the engine. No luck finding one yet.
I would have thought replacement sump pans would be available considering the lineage of the engine. No luck finding one yet.
Evoluzione said:
Every car the engine was used in had its own unique sump and they are all in short supply/expensive, the one you had on the yellow one would have fitted, but would have needed the pipe at the front welding on.
I was thinking that...http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/fiat-coupe-16v-oil-sump-...
...the one on the yellow car had half a front, back two sides and not much bottom. It was mostly held together with paint.
Silly question.
Are the 16V N/A and Turbo heads the same?
I was told they were and kept the N/A head in case anything happened to my Turbo one (also port and clean the valves so I had basically a reconditioned head if the gasket went on mine).
Now I'm selling it to raise funds for the sump and want to make sure it is the same for listing accuracy.
The gasket sets are the same but you never know with the Italian sense of humor.
Are the 16V N/A and Turbo heads the same?
I was told they were and kept the N/A head in case anything happened to my Turbo one (also port and clean the valves so I had basically a reconditioned head if the gasket went on mine).
Now I'm selling it to raise funds for the sump and want to make sure it is the same for listing accuracy.
The gasket sets are the same but you never know with the Italian sense of humor.
Whoops. While making inquiries about parts for my Coupe I accidentally found a Punto GT with the 16V Turbo conversion. So the Coupe is going and the Punto is on it's way. 
A lot less work, less faff and worth roughly the same as the Coupe when finished (considering the clocking issue).
A lot less work, less faff and worth roughly the same as the Coupe when finished (considering the clocking issue).
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