Stelvio

[Yidwann]

The only thing I could see the VW and Volvo absolutely doing better are.

1. MPG - If you are going down the Petrol route, and 280bhp is awesome, and in this weather the power has been so useable, its been great. But I think the VAG group cars especially return better economy when you are not driving it hard. I am averaging about 24mpg at the moment, where I dare say the they would be more.

2. Servicing - I am not sure Long Life servicing exists in Alfa's world, with the petrol my intervals are 8,000 miles where nearly all VAG tin is 20,000

Still love mine though!

[The rapid detailer]

We’ve just bought this beast. I know it’s the qv one but it’s still my wife’s daily and what a daily. She did see 30mpg today on her 70 mile daily commute. Dealers are still the worst I’ve dealt with but the brand is amazing.

[cayman-black]

awesome!

[paulmachin]

I'm seriously tempted by one of these, at least in a year or two when there may be more to choose from, and with some depreciation having happened.

This is about as luscious as compact SUVs get, in my opinion:
https://usedcars.alfaromeo.co.uk/single-used-car/a...

[Yidwann]

There will be a whole world of depreciation to be honest.... I think mine is a £48k list price.... which is slightly bonkers!

[Yidwann]

So mine has just flashed up it wants an Oil Change at only 7,000 miles in, that is pretty disappointing moving from VAG Long Life Servicing....

[peld]

Hi, didnt want to start a new thread so thought i'd bump this.

As we are a year on from the OP - how have things been Stelvio owners? Any more issues or have things been all good?

If the lease market doesn't improve, I am looking at buying a Stelvio next year when my lease goes expires. Probably thinking a Milano or Speciale, with the 210hp diesel for about £25k. I admit I havent even sat in one yet however. Ideally i'd like a Porsche (macan, cayenne or panamera), but either they are too old, or its more than I'm willing to pay for a car that probably only does 6-8k p.a (would need 35k for a suitable porsche). FYI typical family with 2 kids (who'll be 7 by the time we buy)

After several years or VAG group or Volvo leases, i had a few questions:

- any general experience feedback from a few years living with a Stelvio?
- how has build quality held up? any major issues? how bad will it look compared to years of VAG and Volvo?
- I dont have a local Alfa garage - will servicing at my local garage be ok? (rather not use Arnold Clark).
- what sort of depreciation are people expecting? i can buy an 18 plate for under £25k at the moment which presumably cost £38k-ish. Reckon i'd get £16k in 3 years with low miles/good condition?

thanks!!

[aspender]

peld said:

any general experience feedback from a few years living with a Stelvio?

I've had mine three years and done 24k miles in it (Petrol 280 Milano Edizione). I still catch myself glancing back at it, or looking out of a window at it and every drive is a pleasure. All that aside, the best way of answering is to say that on Friday I'm picking up my new MY20 Stelvio Quadrifoglio!

Aside from that, overall it has bee na great car. Performed family duties admirably, fun to drive and returns a long term average of about 25MPG.

peld said:

how has build quality held up? any major issues? how bad will it look compared to years of VAG and Volvo?

I've only had one issue in three years, which was a faulty IBS system which was replaced under warranty. After 24k miles it's still got 4mm all round on the original tyres, original front pads are down to 20% left, and there's a bit of pitting on the rear discs so it's basically just been oil & filters up to now. It's just been serviced hence knowing the exact detail above but they can sort those out after p/x

Interior and exterior have held up well - the leather still looks like new, even on the bolsters. Mine is pre Apple Carplay/Android Auto so the infotainment is showing it's age, but to be honest it's never bothered me. Just press the loud pedal a bit more instead.

peld said:

I dont have a local Alfa garage - will servicing at my local garage be ok? (rather not use Arnold Clark).

I'm lucky that I have two Alfa dealers within 10 miles of me. No idea about what you'd need during the warranty period. Might be worth checking if there is a local FCA brand dealer who is capable of servicing them.

peld said:

what sort of depreciation are people expecting? i can buy an 18 plate for under £25k at the moment which presumably cost £38k-ish. Reckon i'd get £16k in 3 years with low miles/good condition?

I'll give you a good idea when my existing one appears on autotrader presumably next week, but looking at the private sale value that autotrader suggests puts it at around 42% so far.

[Van Dessel]

Hi Aspender congrats on the upgrade! I'm also deciding on 280HP vs.QF (both used). Are you looking for more power per se or really just more sound, fury and occasion?

Are you looking used or new? The new list prices are so high (you can't really stay under £50k for a nice 280HP) that a used QF with 3000-5000 miles on the clock looks like a good deal....


Thanks for your thoughts

[Kawasicki]

Van Dessel said:

For any current Selvio owners, are there any key considerations (engine power or sonics, handling, interior space etc.) that the competitors like XC60 or Tiguan would slam-dunk do better? I really like it, but wonder if there's a big elephant that doesn't often get mentioned (finance aside, that's a private thing).

Not in the market for the QF version, I subscribe to the 'top model - 1' school of thought. I have 2 small kids (6 and under) to move around and want to use it for longer distance escapades.

Cheers for any additional thoughts. I'm attracted by the looks, handling, badge, size. I have a 24 hour test drive appointment in the works but have yet to step into one.

From a ride and handling point of view I think the Stelvio is in another league from the Volvo. The Volvo drives like it has cheap suspension, the Stelvio is the opposite. The VW is also much better than the Volvo, but it is less characterful than the Alfa.

[aspender]

Van Dessel said:

Hi Aspender congrats on the upgrade! I'm also deciding on 280HP vs.QF (both used). Are you looking for more power per se or really just more sound, fury and occasion?

Sound and occasion hits the nail on the head. The 280 is plenty powerful and fast enough for any day to day activity. I can't say I ever found it wanting. The QF for me is ticking off a few boxes on the bucket list. I've had a V6 before but not one like this - I just wanted that 500+ HP, sound, delivery, Ferrari connotations etc and it was a case of just being very fortunate enough to be able to do so. Of course general wisdom would say I should have gone with the Giulia QF but for our family needs the Stelvio is a better match.

Van Dessel said:

Are you looking used or new? The new list prices are so high (you can't really stay under £50k for a nice 280HP) that a used QF with 3000-5000 miles on the clock looks like a good deal....


Thanks for your thoughts

Having owned an early one without the inital round of improvements (most notably Carplay/Android Auto) and now a MY20 I wouldn't say that the MY20 updates transform the car. Yes the infotainment is better (the performance pages are actually quite useful) the driver assistance stuff works well etc, but fundamentally it's the same overall driving and cabin experience and the mechanicals are not really much different (on the Stelvio QF there are engine changes, notably the introduction of both direct and port injection to avoid the need for a GPF. There's also a rumour of a 1.5cm lower ride height)

If you can get second hand with Carplay/Android Auto, I'd say that would be a great car regardless. You may also benefit from the remainder of a 5 year warranty which is no longer offered.

[Yidwann]

I’d be really interested to hear your thoughts of the QF after you have had it a while. I too have the 280 on what seems like now a really cheap lease compared to with what else is out there. But it goes back in March, I think its a good steer, but its never leaves me just wanting to take it for a drive somewhere, I wonder if the QF would do that, or whether its in the “Incredibly good for an SUV” category, which is my conundrum really, I don’t want to commit to one and then still be yearning for a 2 car setup again! They do look stunning though, congrats on your purchase!

[aspender]

Yidwann said:

I’d be really interested to hear your thoughts of the QF after you have had it a while. I too have the 280 on what seems like now a really cheap lease compared to with what else is out there. But it goes back in March, I think its a good steer, but its never leaves me just wanting to take it for a drive somewhere, I wonder if the QF would do that, or whether its in the “Incredibly good for an SUV” category, which is my conundrum really, I don’t want to commit to one and then still be yearning for a 2 car setup again! They do look stunning though, congrats on your purchase!

Will be happy to report back. I've only done 200 miles of fairly gentle driving so far as the run-in period says to keep under 5k rpm until 300 miles and under 70mph, plus it isn't going in for detailing/ceramic coating until next week.

One other consideration on 280 vs QF is a really quite significant different in insurance groups. The Stelvio QF is group 50 (by comparison the Giulia QF is "only" 46). Tax is also a jump from £540 per year to £2,175 per year (plus the first 5 years surcharge which is applicable to both)

[saintsteve]

Hi all, I’m coming to the end of my 2 year lease on a black Stelvio 210 diesel and looking to buy outright. It’s registered in 2019 but doesn’t have car play/android auto. I’ve done 15000 miles and been offered £23k by leasys to buy the car. Does that sound a reasonable price? There aren’t many for sale to compare the retail prices with.

[Yidwann]

What was the list? Price, mine has just gone back and but didn't enquire about owning it. But I had a Stelvio Milano 280 and the list was £48k be intrigued for what it went for at Auction. To be honest though I have moved to a Macan S and its night and day better than the Stelvio, but at least I have ticked that Alfa box.

Most of the Leasys cars end up at Manhiem to be auctioned, so you could see what something similar goes for there.

https://www.manheim.co.uk/search?Make%5B0%5D=ALFA%...

[saintsteve]

It was £48k approximately. It has the sports interior in red, tinted Windows, rear camera and 19 inch wheels, metallic paint as options. £23k seems cheap but unsure on future depreciation. If we do buy it, it would be our second car so will be keeping it for at least 3 to 4 years.

[chopper602]

I've had my Giulia Veloce for 2½ years now and that was joined by a MY20 Stelvio Veloce in December for my wife (to replace the horrendous Jag E-Pace). Loads of boot space and it rides really well as we didn't spec up the wheels. The Stelvio is almost as quick as the Giulia and you have the AWD too. Really happy with them both, nothing has broken and we are a little spoiled as we have independent dealer, Alexanders of Teesside almost adjacent to where I work. Sales and service is top notch - not that we've had need to use them, other than servicing.

[Yidwann]

Makes me feel like the £11k it cost me to lease one for two years is an absolute steal now based on what they are going for after 2 years.

[Dezbo]

aspender said:

Having owned an early one without the inital round of improvements (most notably Carplay/Android Auto) and now a MY20 I wouldn't say that the MY20 updates transform the car. Yes the infotainment is better (the performance pages are actually quite useful) the driver assistance stuff works well etc, but fundamentally it's the same overall driving and cabin experience and the mechanicals are not really much different (on the Stelvio QF there are engine changes, notably the introduction of both direct and port injection to avoid the need for a GPF. There's also a rumour of a 1.5cm lower ride height)

If you can get second hand with Carplay/Android Auto, I'd say that would be a great car regardless. You may also benefit from the remainder of a 5 year warranty which is no longer offered.

First I’ve heard about engine changes for the 2020 update. Where did you get this info from?

[aspender]

Dezbo said:

First I’ve heard about engine changes for the 2020 update. Where did you get this info from?

It was incorrectly sourced from a US forum. The US MY2020 got updated with the direct+port injection on the 2.9L V6 which was actually brought into EU markets in 2018 to meet WTLP

https://www.giuliaforums.com/threads/2020-qv-model...