Fiat 500 Twinair fuel economy

Fiat 500 Twinair fuel economy

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Fantuzzi

3,297 posts

146 months

Monday 27th February 2012
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Rrroro said:
It's not just about the fuel economy re the Abarth. TwinAir purchase price, insurance, road tax are all a lot cheaper and there is no congestion charge for those of us living in central London. All those costs outweigh the fuel argument for me personally. However having said that I am mildly miffed that the mpg is nowhere near the claims. When buying the car I did think I would easily achieve around mid-50's, maybe 60, but generally achieving about 45ish which is way off (after about 3300 miles since new)
Yeah of course there are other factors not just the mpgs, Now if only Abarth would put the body kit in the twinair...

Ruxpin

324 posts

245 months

Monday 27th February 2012
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Fantuzzi said:
Anyone else heard of a lady in the United states suing honda for the misrepresentation of mpgs.

Surely Fiat are going to get a few complaints? Shame really given that its showing the future of motoring, cars need to get lighter engines need to be smaller (and turbo charged as ford are doing)

Any one run a Abarth 500? The offical fuel figures are in the low 40s, would be odd to think that if this is correct the eco car is harder on the wallet than the range topper!

Our Abarth 500 has averaged 38.7mpg over 21k miles. Highest full tank average has been 50.2mpg and lowest 31.7mpg when driving with 2 bikes on the roof. So within about 10% of the official combined mpg which i think is respectable (previous cars have all done this).

Some of the twin air mpg reports are quite worrying but i don't think fiat are alone, similar posts in the bmw forums re current crop of claimed ultra efficient diesels. Are manufacturers just getting better at adapting cars for the official test which can't be representative of "real world" driving what ever that is??

crostonian

2,427 posts

172 months

Monday 27th February 2012
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The EU compose and carry out the tests so don't see how the manufacturer's can be blamed in any way.

Fantuzzi

3,297 posts

146 months

Tuesday 28th February 2012
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Evo magizine long termers/fleet said on the twin air that the gearing was a little out, you had to rev and rev to get anywhere meaning you where always putting your foot down in lower gear than you should be in.

Seems torque is an issue, perhaps a revised mapping is in order for the 2nd gen ones.

Still want a Abarth body kit on it though...

IanMorewood

4,309 posts

248 months

Tuesday 28th February 2012
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Depends if you pressed the eco button, if you did it was gutless otherwise acceleration was ok unless you downshift and rev then its a blast in a small eco box car.

jason s4

16,810 posts

170 months

Friday 2nd March 2012
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Fantuzzi said:
Any one run a Abarth 500? The offical fuel figures are in the low 40s, would be odd to think that if this is correct the eco car is harder on the wallet than the range topper!

Around 38 mpg if the wife is driving it thumbup

Although it has only just turned 3000 miles at a year old and so im assuming it will improve with mileage.

Fantuzzi

3,297 posts

146 months

Friday 2nd March 2012
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jason s4 said:
Around 38 mpg if the wife is driving it thumbup

Although it has only just turned 3000 miles at a year old and so im assuming it will improve with mileage.
Not bad MPGs, if I had one I'm afraid I'd be on the redline every time I was in it...

jason s4

16,810 posts

170 months

Friday 2nd March 2012
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Fantuzzi said:
Not bad MPGs, if I had one I'm afraid I'd be on the redline every time I was in it...
Which is why it drops like i stone when I am driving it.

Its an engine that loves to be thrashed, and is the most fun ive had on 4 wheels in a long time.

Fantuzzi

3,297 posts

146 months

Saturday 3rd March 2012
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jason s4 said:
Which is why it drops like i stone when I am driving it.

Its an engine that loves to be thrashed, and is the most fun ive had on 4 wheels in a long time.
Yeah love the Abarth, Is yours the standard car or with the Esse esse kit?


jason s4

16,810 posts

170 months

Sunday 4th March 2012
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Fantuzzi said:
Yeah love the Abarth, Is yours the standard car or with the Esse esse kit?
Just standard.

TBH i really could not justify the extra (nearly) 2K for the kit, although im sure its great.

Its the wifes daily drive, with me taking it out occasionally.

CatJ

9,586 posts

243 months

Sunday 4th March 2012
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The Twinair is now just a month away from being delivered. It's status now means now more spec changes can be made and it's about to be built.

Fantuzzi

3,297 posts

146 months

Monday 5th March 2012
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jason s4 said:
Just standard.

TBH i really could not justify the extra (nearly) 2K for the kit, although im sure its great.

Its the wifes daily drive, with me taking it out occasionally.
The standard one is meant to be better from what Ive read. Rides to firm in the upgrade.

jason s4

16,810 posts

170 months

Monday 5th March 2012
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The Essesse upgrade is very firm, however, they are now offering two versions which offer the normal upgrade, and now with Koni progressive suspension, but that does come at a premium.

will-w

253 posts

201 months

Monday 5th March 2012
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I get between 28 and 34 from my Abarth Grande Punto Esseesse - not bad from a little FWD hatch with around 210bhp (yet to be confirmed on a RR).

I agree that the Esseesse is a little rough on a majority of British roads but the other bonuses more than make it worth while.. And when you get her onto a nice flat bit of country road it is absolutely wonderful!

matt-ITR

892 posts

189 months

Tuesday 6th March 2012
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Test drove the Twin Air today and it really impressed me. Doesn't sound great about MPG mind, but it was so much fun to drive!
What sort of deals (if any) are people getting on new cars?

The dealer has said there is nothing that can be done, but I have a feeling that something is possible.
Looking at getting a standard Twin Air with no extras other than red paint which is £290 extra.

jason s4

16,810 posts

170 months

Tuesday 6th March 2012
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Deals are few and far between, especially with the 500 eco boxes.

CatJ

9,586 posts

243 months

Wednesday 7th March 2012
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£200 discount on the one I've ordered.

However I got a very good deal on the 500 I'm trading in, getting £900 more than if I was trading in for a Suzuki Swift Sport, Twingo RS etc.....

Rrroro

395 posts

155 months

Sunday 11th March 2012
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I've now done about 4,000 miles from new and the engine is really starting to loosen up nicely, it's a lot of fun to zip around in now. The soft comedy suspension and steering make it a hoot, especially around winding country lanes. It has just the right amount of grip too - it loves to squiggle around on tight bends, but handling is very predictable. Engine and exhaust sound is really great too. Only downside if you can call it that is the mpg hasn't really improved much, still getting around 47-ish (when driven smoothly). Actually the other thing I'm not too keen on is the gearing (but I guess that's related to the mpg issue - it's obviously geared for economy and not speed and acceleration).

JakeR

3,925 posts

269 months

Sunday 1st April 2012
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Got our twin air this weekend. It is a scream. I love it already...

Rrroro

395 posts

155 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2012
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Excellent, they're a hoot aren't? I'm still not bored of mine, 6 months and 4,000+ miles later. What spec is yours?