Fiat 500 Twinair fuel economy
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Squadrone Rosso said:
Described as "Sporty & Aggressive"....lol. Doesn't get climate control. Not really sure as specs are limited at the mo......
Been having a look and it seems like its lost the climate control but gained fog lights. Also seems to have fewer available options.Seems like a step backwards from the TA+ to me...
JonnyO said:
Been having a look and it seems like its lost the climate control but gained fog lights. Also seems to have fewer available options.
Seems like a step backwards from the TA+ to me...
Agreed. I'd rather a TA+ with climate & they've found me one in Black. Hope to do the deal before the week is outSeems like a step backwards from the TA+ to me...
Just thought I'd chime in on the economy discussion, haven't read all the posts. Just bought a new twin air in april. Absolutely love the car. (was actually looking for a thread on front brake pad upgrade as I want harder pads).
Anyway the car was bought new on april, for a summerhouse. In the mountains short trips to the bakery up and down the mountains in second gear around 4k rpm the average consumption is 6.2 liters per 100 kms. Longer trips driven as fast as possible on a roads the consumption drops to5.4 liters per 100 kms and that is as fast as is safely possible. Only bad consumption I've experienced is ~150 kph on the motorway, 6.7 liters per 100kms. I think the aerodynamic properties are relatively bad in relation to bigger cars at high speed compared to up to 130kph.
I would say the consumption is definitely great as you get a really fun engine instead of a boring diesel. It's an engine with character way beyond it's petite size :-)
Besides that I think the car seems to be great quality, certainly when you compare the new purchase price with what I've also got in the garage which are 2 audis and 3 mercs cabs atm. I really like the thmp when you close the door as well :-) almost german.
Love it!
Anyway the car was bought new on april, for a summerhouse. In the mountains short trips to the bakery up and down the mountains in second gear around 4k rpm the average consumption is 6.2 liters per 100 kms. Longer trips driven as fast as possible on a roads the consumption drops to5.4 liters per 100 kms and that is as fast as is safely possible. Only bad consumption I've experienced is ~150 kph on the motorway, 6.7 liters per 100kms. I think the aerodynamic properties are relatively bad in relation to bigger cars at high speed compared to up to 130kph.
I would say the consumption is definitely great as you get a really fun engine instead of a boring diesel. It's an engine with character way beyond it's petite size :-)
Besides that I think the car seems to be great quality, certainly when you compare the new purchase price with what I've also got in the garage which are 2 audis and 3 mercs cabs atm. I really like the thmp when you close the door as well :-) almost german.
Love it!
My wife bought a 500 Twin Air in late June this year (2013); it has just covered its first 1000 miles with an average of 42 mpg. The first 500 miles saw a 38 mpg figure with most of the driving being a gentle 5 mile comute to work aound quiet country lanes. The second 500 miles has been mostly with the "eco" switch on which effectively strangles the turbo and takes some of the fun away. In this setting the car returned 48.5 mpg on a 250 mile trip (mostly dual carriage way and motor way) with the car being cruised at around 80 mph (3500rpm in 5th gear). The biggest worry is that it drank nearly a litre of oil in before reaching 1000 miles: apparently this is expected so if you buy one remember to raise the bonnet every week to check fluids. Despite being an oil burning, fuel guzzler.... my wife loves her powder blue baby!! (Just don't believe the official fuel fugures)
It's an appealing car. I got 50mpg+ when pootling in my rental TwinAir, but only 37mpg when driving it spiritedly.
My Panda 100hp does 45-48mpg on the motorway and 38mpg when driven with brio, so the Twinair doesn't seem a big step forward over the 1.4. Having said that, it saves £170 a year in road tax and the more torquey 85hp feels just as quick as the 100hp.
My Panda 100hp does 45-48mpg on the motorway and 38mpg when driven with brio, so the Twinair doesn't seem a big step forward over the 1.4. Having said that, it saves £170 a year in road tax and the more torquey 85hp feels just as quick as the 100hp.
Chrisw26 said:
Had ours about a month now and getting 50mpg plus.
Great fun. My wife drives it everyday but I try and grab a go every now and then. Nearly as much fun as her 1965 500D.
That looks like a Riva which is much more than a boat!!Great fun. My wife drives it everyday but I try and grab a go every now and then. Nearly as much fun as her 1965 500D.
Now done 13k in our TA+ in 13 months. Love it to bits. Great little car. Much of it's time is spent being spanked up & down the M ways. Nothing overtakes it....lol. Consumption is c45mpg when wife drives it, 40 with me at the wheel (or 35 if I'm following her V6 GT back from Swansea).
It works brilliantly everywhere. Epic little car!
The Twinair has been into the garage today for quite a lot of work.
The coil packs have been replaced, apparently there should have been some notification sent out to say the work needed to be done.
They advised the computer was showing the car was doing over 43 mpg, that does differ from the physical calculations I've done and it also differs to the trip computer. So I don't know if this is some sort of reading they have taken when they plugged into their computer. Apparently 43 mpg is well within the tolerences for the car.
It's had a re-flash of the ecu to update the start stop software and they are hoping this and the replacement coil packs "may" help improve the fuel economy.
They have had to order parts for the auto aircon system, it seems as though the actuator isn't operating as it should.
They couldn't find the source of the intermittent fuel smell in the cabin, the breather pipe hasn't split.
The car has now done 16,000 miles, had new front tyres fitted at 15,500 miles and the wheel alignment checked and adjusted.
It will prbably need it's 18,000 mile service in October and that I hope should be the last of the paid for work. It's not been quite as cheap to run as it's 1.2 predecessor but a fun car all the same.
The coil packs have been replaced, apparently there should have been some notification sent out to say the work needed to be done.
They advised the computer was showing the car was doing over 43 mpg, that does differ from the physical calculations I've done and it also differs to the trip computer. So I don't know if this is some sort of reading they have taken when they plugged into their computer. Apparently 43 mpg is well within the tolerences for the car.
It's had a re-flash of the ecu to update the start stop software and they are hoping this and the replacement coil packs "may" help improve the fuel economy.
They have had to order parts for the auto aircon system, it seems as though the actuator isn't operating as it should.
They couldn't find the source of the intermittent fuel smell in the cabin, the breather pipe hasn't split.
The car has now done 16,000 miles, had new front tyres fitted at 15,500 miles and the wheel alignment checked and adjusted.
It will prbably need it's 18,000 mile service in October and that I hope should be the last of the paid for work. It's not been quite as cheap to run as it's 1.2 predecessor but a fun car all the same.
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