Electrics expert required - Deactivating Front Airbags

Electrics expert required - Deactivating Front Airbags

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kiwifraser

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4,386 posts

196 months

Thursday 13th November 2008
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I have just tried to put my 3 month old daughters car seat in the back, but the seat belts are not long enough to go around it. Is there an easy way (fuse, etc) to deactivate the airbags so I can put her in the front?
Hoping to out this afternoon, but my wife is out in the other car.

Cheers
kf

motomk

2,155 posts

246 months

Thursday 13th November 2008
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I doubt the front seatbelts will be any longer. On the VT/VZ Sedans there is a a clip on the back parcel shelf hidden under a little flap for child seats. However on futher investigation I am not sure the Coupe has them.


Edited by motomk on Thursday 13th November 14:48

kiwifraser

Original Poster:

4,386 posts

196 months

Thursday 13th November 2008
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Luckily enough the front coupe seats go so far back, that the belts do reach. Still not far enough back though that I would risk driving without the airbags turned off

L2VXR

984 posts

215 months

Thursday 13th November 2008
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sorry im no help with the air bag but you may find this link usefull to fit the childseat in the rear

www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&t=503064&r=7469522&hm=65670#7469522

Codefaster

281 posts

195 months

Thursday 13th November 2008
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I got my Monaro when my son was 9 months old. I considered using a seat-belt extension for the rear-facing seat in the back, but ended up just getting one of the larger front-face seats instead (as he was big enough at that point). I'm not sure how well an extension would work anyway, given how you need to thread the seatbelt.

Basically once your kid hits 9 months, things get a lot easier and several seat options are available. "Maxi Cosi Priori XP" fits perfectly for example.

I can't really help with the airbag query, sorry.


melchett

809 posts

188 months

Thursday 13th November 2008
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Any vehicle manufacturer will tell you that the safest place for a child is in the rear, so do everything you can to get it in there. Whatever happens, DO NOT risk driving with a rearward facing child seat on the front passenger seat when the passenger airbag is active. You risk killing your child! (I cant stress this enough).

I take it that you are trying to install a rearward facing child seat, and thats why the belts are not long enough in the rear? A belt extension may work if you dont need too much more length, but you should check that the buckles and belt sit correclty on the restraint, allow you to get plenty of belt tension to hold the seat.

Have a check at the back/bottom of the seat (where the seat back meets the seat base) for ISOFIX anchorages. They look like metal loops about 12" apart and you need two per seat. These make installing a child seat easy and you dont need to use the belt. You just need a compatible child seat ('LATCH' in the other thread). Mine has them so yours may too.

To answer your question, the passenger airbag can be disabled by disconnecting the yellow squib which fits into the pyrotechnic. To prevent airbag system errors showing, a suitable resistor needs to be placed over the squib. I dont know how much resistance is needed and I doubt a dealer will have/provide this info. Bear in mind that you cant then drive with adults in the front seat. This is not a great option.

Also, try to keep with a rearward facing child seat for as long as possible. They are safer than forward facing ones.

melchett

809 posts

188 months

Thursday 13th November 2008
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Ah, just read the other thread where you say you dont have ISOFIX.

wolfracer

2,074 posts

208 months

Thursday 13th November 2008
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I used an extension with a rear facing M&P seat with no issues, but they are fround upon by the men at the safety place. And I never had to do an emergency stop or crashed my Ro to test it out......
If you can waddle the seat, no matter how it is fixed, it is NOT secure.
My new Maxi front facing only just fits the belt but it is solid.

kiwifraser

Original Poster:

4,386 posts

196 months

Thursday 13th November 2008
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Cheers guys, I will just have to try to fit the seat in the back again tomorrow when I have more time to see if there is any possible way of wriggling the belts around it. I also have Rory who is 2 1/2, and he has a Recaro forward facing seat which fits really well in the back.

crisisjez

9,209 posts

207 months

Friday 14th November 2008
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kiwifraser said:
Cheers guys, I will just have to try to fit the seat in the back again tomorrow when I have more time to see if there is any possible way of wriggling the belts around it. I also have Rory who is 2 1/2, and he has a Recaro forward facing seat which fits really well in the back.

Would an aircraft extension sealbelt work?
(It attaches to the seatbelt with a loop and is used to allow kiddies to sit on parents laps on the aircraft)

kiwifraser

Original Poster:

4,386 posts

196 months

Friday 14th November 2008
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I know the ones you mean, but I think It would struggle in the car because you cant pass the loop through a 3 point belt. Then again, I have never seen a seatbelt extension for a car.

Any photos circulating of the Firebird yet?

melchett

809 posts

188 months

Friday 14th November 2008
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kiwifraser said:
Then again, I have never seen a seatbelt extension for a car.


You can get them but I think they would all be too long and the buckles may interfere with the child seat and may limit blet tension.

ringram

14,700 posts

250 months

Friday 14th November 2008
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This is about the time I remind everyone how much more practical the 4 door models are, especially the vxr8 smile

Ranger 6

7,075 posts

251 months

Friday 14th November 2008
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Word of warning for just disabling the airbag - I don't know about your particular car but make sure it doesn't have explosive pre-tensioners on the front belts and side airbags if you do put a baby seat in the front.
When I explored the option for my previous BMW that was the warning I got. I know the key switch on my current one disables all the safety feature like that on the front passenger seat.

kiwifraser

Original Poster:

4,386 posts

196 months

Friday 14th November 2008
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ringram said:
This is about the time I remind everyone how much more practical the 4 door models are, especially the vxr8 smile
Great Rich, make me feel better why don't you. biggrin

racebreed1

498 posts

188 months

Friday 14th November 2008
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you can get a forward facing one for newborns cant you?

ive seen a few im sure rear or forward facing as long as they are secure i fail to see the difference

racebreed1

498 posts

188 months

Friday 14th November 2008
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www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/SearchCmd


any of these will probably fit i would rather do this than have an extension fitted

MyM8V8

9,457 posts

197 months

Friday 14th November 2008
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ringram said:
This is about the time I remind everyone how much more practical the 4 door models are, especially the vxr8 smile
Or a vasectomy tongue out

melchett

809 posts

188 months

Friday 14th November 2008
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racebreed1 said:
you can get a forward facing one for newborns cant you?



Dont bother with forward facing seats for newborns, they are no way near as safe as rearward facing seats for children so young.

wolfracer

2,074 posts

208 months

Friday 14th November 2008
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melchett said:
racebreed1 said:
you can get a forward facing one for newborns cant you?



Dont bother with forward facing seats for newborns, they are no way near as safe as rearward facing seats for children so young.

neck support for one. Imagine forward facing, head on collision - what force is baby going to experience on their neck and head being thrown forward?