Merc SL (the 90s ones) talk to me.

Merc SL (the 90s ones) talk to me.

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cheadle hulme

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2,460 posts

184 months

Thursday 26th August 2010
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Looking for a car for weekdend cruising and the occasional trip around the UK.

Will not get used for commuting or hooning. These have caught my eye. Are they from Mercedes' good or bad era?

They have a certain style and look very smart, almsot classic now.

Pretty much lost all the money they will I'd have thought too. £6k seems to pick up a tidy mid nineties one, like this

http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/1985650.htm

Any advice? I'm quite happy to budget for maintenance as depreciation will be minimal.

daveco

4,152 posts

209 months

Thursday 26th August 2010
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They are good, solid cars. The 500SL is the most reliable and is plenty quick. Still fancy a 600 myself for the V12 though.

They are from the good times when Mercedes didn't build cars from cheese and circus mats.

LayZ

1,640 posts

244 months

Thursday 26th August 2010
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Get a SL 500 - V8. They are seriously fast even by today's standards. 0-60 mid 5s. 322hp or so IIRC.

If I had room for another classic one of these would be in my garage. They seem amazingly cheap.

Lots to read here: http://www.kenrockwell.com/sl/index.htm

Chris71

21,536 posts

244 months

Thursday 26th August 2010
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They're a lot of car for the money, but sadly they've fallen into the hands of would-be recereational pharmaceutical salesmen around here. The older (slightly rounded off) SLs seem that little bit classier as a result:



There's a coupe just down the road from where I park my bike and it gets an admiring glance every time I pass. Not sure I'm old enough for one yet though. smile

Wadeski

8,191 posts

215 months

Thursday 26th August 2010
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the 90s SL is a classic - was made for donkeys years because it was so good. Not sure of the drug dealer image, i've never seen any like that. They hold their value well, wouldnt be surprised if good ones start rising again.

not a sporty ride by any stretch of the imagination though - think waft.

cheadle hulme

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2,460 posts

184 months

Thursday 26th August 2010
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They're a bit more "old money" than drug dealer around here. See plenty of old boys crusing around Cheshire in them.

I'm 39, so not really old enough, but what the hell. I need to get rid of the 335i as I'm not using it enough and fancy something near depreciation proof, but still reliable for meetings, smart days out etc. These look ideal.

I have a snotter for other stuff.

Risotto

3,929 posts

214 months

Thursday 26th August 2010
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Ken Rockwell said:
Driving the SL500 is salvation. Behind the wheel your life is perfect.

The SL500 is a masterpiece of beauty, power, smoothness, safety and convenience which cannot be put into words by any living poet.
Wow, they sound awesome! hehe

Seriously though, I'd agree that prices will begin to rise at some point as the image improves. Look at the preceding R107 SL - they were a bit naff at one point, a bit 'Dallas' but they go for good money these days.

Chris71

21,536 posts

244 months

Thursday 26th August 2010
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Wadeski said:
Not sure of the drug dealer image, i've never seen any like that.
Be thankful you're not in North London. Anything remotely prestigious is used as a symbol of bling around here I'm afraid. There are stacks of cars I'd happily own elsewhere in the country that take on a slightly more dubious image round here. Anything cheap but imposing is jumped on by, well, cheap people who want to be seen as imposing...

Nuisance_Value

721 posts

255 months

Thursday 26th August 2010
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Excellent cars, I should know, I have one. Useable all year round with the hardtop, well built and quality everything. Don't bother with anything other than a 500, the fuel consumption is only marginally worse than the 320's but the performance more than makes up for it. They do drink though, mid 20's return on mine, less if really going for it as they do weigh 1.75 tonnes, but can shift and surprise many of todays 'fast' cars. They are not sports cars though as they do wallow a bit and get flustered in really twisty bits if you're going a tad fast.

Early cars had wiring loom issues, though they should all be sorted by now. Look for cars with original wheels and decent tyres, they don't like cheap rubber, and are sensitive so it's worth £50 to get the suspension set up properly, i.e. not at Kwik Fit. Parts, especially bodywork, bumpers etc, is expensive. Always check the soft top open and closes a few times. All came with a hardtop and wind deflector, panoramic hardtops on post '96 are lovely and make for a light and airy interior, worth getting if you can. Look for rust on arches and hardtop C pillar, though they are generally not bad for rust.

Facelifted twice, in '96 and '98 (I think) and I prefer the slightly more rounded look of the later cars. Engine output dropped to about 300bhp around '96 too, but no major issues with either, as long as well looked after. Maintained at in indy for about £500 a year and you should be fine. Worth spending a bit more on a good one and it'll last you years, without losing much, if anything, on it.

ETA: I don't know this guy, but he's on MBclub.co.uk and his car is on here for sale.. Looks good, though the ADS system is expensive to fix if it goes wrong.. http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/1831221.htm

Oh yeah, heated seats which were an option, are nice too smile

Edited by Nuisance_Value on Thursday 26th August 13:36

E31Shrew

5,925 posts

194 months

Thursday 26th August 2010
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Used to have this SL600. Beautiful car.

I would probably go for an SL500 however given the potential complications of a 16 year old V12

Edited by E31Shrew on Thursday 26th August 13:19

Utterpiffle

831 posts

182 months

Thursday 26th August 2010
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Cracking cars. Same chassis and mechanics as the w140 s-class, so parts are plentiful and usually quite cheap.

Go post '96 if you can as they face lifted, added features and fixed several problems. Also, early ones will have 4-speed auto, which although stronger than the later 5-speed, does not give such relaxed cruising. Gearboxes are the only real weak link. Make sure it engages quickly and smoothly between reverse and drive.
Pre-96 cars also had a biodegradable wiring loom (no, really!). The outer sheath of the wires crumble causing all manner of electrical problems, especially the top engine loom.
Other than that, bomb-proof cars. Unless you need the power/sound of the eights or twelves, the SL320 6-pot is lovely smooth and revvy engine that will give over 25mpg on a run.

Edited by Utterpiffle on Thursday 26th August 13:20

E31Shrew

5,925 posts

194 months

Thursday 26th August 2010
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Oh ...check the central locking works OK. Seem to recall mine had some vacumn air system

Nuisance_Value

721 posts

255 months

Thursday 26th August 2010
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E31Shrew said:
Oh ...check the central locking works OK. Seem to recall mine had some vacumn air system
Yeah they do, always a good idea to run the engine if you're locking/unlocking a bit as it recharges the system back up. Also forgot to mention the front end is a sod for stone chips, as is the windscreen so check the screen for cracks. As has been said, check gearbox for smooth shifts, especially when selecting drive, there should be no heavy clunk. Quite a few were fitted with phone cradles, so expect to see filled in holes in the centre console, and also Clifford alarms which are now causing some problems, might make the difference between choosing one car over another.

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

192 months

Thursday 26th August 2010
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cheadle hulme said:
Looking for a car for weekdend cruising and the occasional trip around the UK.

Will not get used for commuting or hooning. These have caught my eye. Are they from Mercedes' good or bad era?

They have a certain style and look very smart, almsot classic now.

Pretty much lost all the money they will I'd have thought too. £6k seems to pick up a tidy mid nineties one, like this

http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/1985650.htm

Any advice? I'm quite happy to budget for maintenance as depreciation will be minimal.
Nice, a friend had a 500SL. But I preferred my V12 XJ-S if honest and think its Jaguar that I'd still head too.

cheadle hulme

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2,460 posts

184 months

Thursday 26th August 2010
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Nuisance_Value said:
Thanks for that (and others who replied). That one seems to have been for sale for a while, considering it looks mint and the history.

jdw1234

6,021 posts

217 months

Thursday 26th August 2010
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cheadle hulme said:
Looking for a car for weekdend cruising and the occasional trip around the UK.

Will not get used for commuting or hooning. These have caught my eye. Are they from Mercedes' good or bad era?

They have a certain style and look very smart, almsot classic now.

Pretty much lost all the money they will I'd have thought too. £6k seems to pick up a tidy mid nineties one, like this

http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/1985650.htm

Any advice? I'm quite happy to budget for maintenance as depreciation will be minimal.
That car looks lovely!!!


Utterpiffle

831 posts

182 months

Thursday 26th August 2010
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Nuisance_Value said:
E31Shrew said:
Oh ...check the central locking works OK. Seem to recall mine had some vacumn air system
Yeah they do, always a good idea to run the engine if you're locking/unlocking a bit as it recharges the system back up.
Howzat work then? They have an electric vacuum pump.

E31Shrew

5,925 posts

194 months

Thursday 26th August 2010
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Utterpiffle said:
Nuisance_Value said:
E31Shrew said:
Oh ...check the central locking works OK. Seem to recall mine had some vacumn air system
Yeah they do, always a good idea to run the engine if you're locking/unlocking a bit as it recharges the system back up.
Howzat work then? They have an electric vacuum pump.
Doesn't that produce 'air'?

Utterpiffle

831 posts

182 months

Thursday 26th August 2010
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E31Shrew said:
Utterpiffle said:
Nuisance_Value said:
E31Shrew said:
Oh ...check the central locking works OK. Seem to recall mine had some vacumn air system
Yeah they do, always a good idea to run the engine if you're locking/unlocking a bit as it recharges the system back up.
Howzat work then? They have an electric vacuum pump.
Doesn't that produce 'air'?
Oh sorry, I missed the context... I read it to mean that they had some kind of engine driven vacuum pump. Still, its only a small motor; you'd have to lock and unlock the car for ages to run the battery flat.

E31Shrew

5,925 posts

194 months

Thursday 26th August 2010
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Utterpiffle said:
E31Shrew said:
Utterpiffle said:
Nuisance_Value said:
E31Shrew said:
Oh ...check the central locking works OK. Seem to recall mine had some vacumn air system
Yeah they do, always a good idea to run the engine if you're locking/unlocking a bit as it recharges the system back up.
Howzat work then? They have an electric vacuum pump.
Doesn't that produce 'air'?
Oh sorry, I missed the context... I read it to mean that they had some kind of engine driven vacuum pump. Still, its only a small motor; you'd have to lock and unlock the car for ages to run the battery flat.
No worries. I was referring more to the fact that there may be a leak of some sort