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I have had it before - I have reduced kidney function and gout can be a side effect of this. unfortunately because of this i can't take NSAID pain killers
the first time I got it no one put two and two together and diagnosed it so I was sent for x-rays etc had it for over a month constantly! It is really very painful so you have my full sympathy!
hope you get better soon!
the first time I got it no one put two and two together and diagnosed it so I was sent for x-rays etc had it for over a month constantly! It is really very painful so you have my full sympathy!
hope you get better soon!
Edited by andy ted on Tuesday 19th May 13:32
Big Al. said:
Glassman said:
Have been prescribed 500mcg Colchicine.
Leaflet says to take "until the pain is better or you feel sick or diarrhoea occurs".
Great.
Not only me then, left big toe.... SNAP and yes fecking ouch!Leaflet says to take "until the pain is better or you feel sick or diarrhoea occurs".
Great.
My course is only 12 tablets how many you got to take?
I was told to take every 2-3 hours or until I felt sick or a started s
tting through the eye of a needle. 48 hours later, I felt the same - no change - in fact, the rest of foot was giving me trouble too and had swollen to look like a cornish pasty. Popped in to a nearby NHS centre where I was told to continue taking the Colchicine for another 48 hours to allow it to work (it lowers uric acid). I was also given Codydramol for the pain and if the combo failed, the doc also prescribed me Diclofenac 50.I stuck with the Colchicine every 2-3 hours and stopped yesterday evening (funnily enough after seeing Newcastle drop down). Stomach not too clever, but the toe is looking like my toe again...
..so far so good; bit sore but 50 time better.
Big Al. said:
Seems we a singing out of the same hymnbook, glad it's on the mend. 
I geting mixed reviews about the high purine foods to avoid; red meat is a no-no, but tomatoes are ok? It's not hard for me to remember the forbidden food as it so happens to be my favourite things too.
Invisible man said:
I had a really bad and sustained attack in my big toe....the doc said he'd give me a steroid injection in the joint......"you might feel a scratch" he said......the lying bd, it's the closest I've come to passing out from pain. Worked though
Please, no! fd, it's the closest I've come to passing out from pain. Worked thoughk me, I could pass out just by trying to imagine it.Glassman said:
I geting mixed reviews about the high purine foods to avoid; red meat is a no-no, but tomatoes are ok?
It's not hard for me to remember the forbidden food as it so happens to be my favourite things too.
I compiled this from info I've picked up.It's not hard for me to remember the forbidden food as it so happens to be my favourite things too.
| High Levels of PurinesBest To Avoid 150–1,000mg/100g | Moderate Levels of Purines Eat Occasionally 50–150mg/100g | Low Levels of Purines No Restriction 0–50mg/100g |
|---|---|---|
| MEAT | MEAT | Eggs |
| Liver | Beef | Cheese |
| Kidney | Bouillon, Meat soups | Breads |
| Veal | Chicken | Cereals |
| Venison | Duck | Butter |
| Turkey | Ham | Margarine |
| Goose | Pork | Pasta |
| Meat Extract Oxo, Marmite. | Lamb | Noodles |
| FISH | Game | Macaroni |
| Anchovies | FISH | Nuts |
| Worchester Sauce | Lobster | Cakes |
| Sardines | Prawns | Biscuits |
| Herrings | Shrimp | Chocolate |
| Mussels | Crab | Grains |
| Cockles | Eel | VEGETABLES, SALADS |
| Scallops | Oysters | Potatoes |
| Cod | Herring | Green vegetables |
| Haddock | Whitebait | Red Cabbage |
| Trout | VEGETABLES | All Salads |
| Fish Roe | Peas | Tomatoes & Tom. Soup |
| Mackerel | Lentils | FRUIT |
| Sprats | Beans | All Fruits |
| Caviar | Legumes | Berries (high in Antioxidants) |
| ALCOHOL | Cauliflower | BEVERAGES |
| Beer | Mushrooms | Coffee |
| Spirits | Asparagus | Milk |
| - | Spinach | Carbonated drinks |
| - | Kidney beans | Fruit Juice |
| - | Lentils | Ice Cream |
| - | Lima beans | - |
| - | Soya | - |
HTH.
Big Al. said:
Oh but it bloody does 
, just easing now after 3 painful weeks.
Me too. Two days ago, I was feeling relieved of the pain... then.... at 3am , just easing now after 3 painful weeks. 
it came back.
I was on my tablets, drinking water and avoiding the forbidden food. But, thankfully, it only lasted 12 hours.
Good to go now.
[/touchingwoodwithcrossedfingers]
Big Al. said:
Glassman said:
I geting mixed reviews about the high purine foods to avoid; red meat is a no-no, but tomatoes are ok?
It's not hard for me to remember the forbidden food as it so happens to be my favourite things too.
I compiled this from info I've picked up.It's not hard for me to remember the forbidden food as it so happens to be my favourite things too.
| High Levels of PurinesBest To Avoid 150–1,000mg/100g | Moderate Levels of Purines Eat Occasionally 50–150mg/100g | Low Levels of Purines No Restriction 0–50mg/100g |
|---|---|---|
| MEAT | MEAT | Eggs |
| Liver | Beef | Cheese |
| Kidney | Bouillon, Meat soups | Breads |
| Veal | Chicken | Cereals |
| Venison | Duck | Butter |
| Turkey | Ham | Margarine |
| Goose | Pork | Pasta |
| Meat Extract Oxo, Marmite. | Lamb | Noodles |
| FISH | Game | Macaroni |
| Anchovies | FISH | Nuts |
| Worchester Sauce | Lobster | Cakes |
| Sardines | Prawns | Biscuits |
| Herrings | Shrimp | Chocolate |
| Mussels | Crab | Grains |
| Cockles | Eel | VEGETABLES, SALADS |
| Scallops | Oysters | Potatoes |
| Cod | Herring | Green vegetables |
| Haddock | Whitebait | Red Cabbage |
| Trout | VEGETABLES | All Salads |
| Fish Roe | Peas | Tomatoes & Tom. Soup |
| Mackerel | Lentils | FRUIT |
| Sprats | Beans | All Fruits |
| Caviar | Legumes | Berries (high in Antioxidants) |
| ALCOHOL | Cauliflower | BEVERAGES |
| Beer | Mushrooms | Coffee |
| Spirits | Asparagus | Milk |
| - | Spinach | Carbonated drinks |
| - | Kidney beans | Fruit Juice |
| - | Lentils | Ice Cream |
| - | Lima beans | - |
| - | Soya | - |
HTH.
Ta. Been trying to fathom the foods. Thought I had whacked me toe somewhere but no. The G word.
My latest attack has finally backed-off after six weeks. I'm off to collect my drugs this arvo: Allopurinol.
I am to take this uric acid-reducing drug until further notice. It can trigger another attack when first taken I'm told (I'm looking forward to it). But if I take it alongside Colchicine (for the pain) hopefully, it won't last as long as the last one.
For me, it's not the frequency of attack (~one/two a year) it's the time it takes to recover - gets longer with every bout.
I am to take this uric acid-reducing drug until further notice. It can trigger another attack when first taken I'm told (I'm looking forward to it). But if I take it alongside Colchicine (for the pain) hopefully, it won't last as long as the last one.
For me, it's not the frequency of attack (~one/two a year) it's the time it takes to recover - gets longer with every bout.
I have a blood test tomorrow to see what is what levels wise. Spent a day on the web getting contradicting do and don't with foods. Just had one day of the bad pain but several leading up to it and just the odd sharp pain after the ant inflammatory. Then finding out I cannot eat spinach and another says yes you can but in moderation. One web site says no tea and another says yes and so on so went for the levels of purine.
Seems I have it very mild.
Seems I have it very mild.
These lists come from research and many are endorsed by professors. It's a bit worrying when some lists will categorise high risk foods which are medium (or even low) on other lists.
At first I saw turkey, pork, mushrooms, artichoke, spinach (as well as kidneys, liver, seafood etc) on a high purine, high risk list. But a bit more searching and I found another list from another university and it listed those foods as either medium risk or worrying, low risk.
My GP did confirm though, nobody really knows what the definitive list is, or should be.
It might be a case of individuality and dunno, can a nutritionist advise on this?
At first I saw turkey, pork, mushrooms, artichoke, spinach (as well as kidneys, liver, seafood etc) on a high purine, high risk list. But a bit more searching and I found another list from another university and it listed those foods as either medium risk or worrying, low risk.
My GP did confirm though, nobody really knows what the definitive list is, or should be.
It might be a case of individuality and dunno, can a nutritionist advise on this?
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