ok helmet for tracks days?

ok helmet for tracks days?

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Down Hill Racer

Original Poster:

10 posts

181 months

Tuesday 19th May 2009
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http://www.openfacehelmets.co.uk/productinfo.aspx?...

I want a cheap open faced helmet....would this be ok?

GaryST220

970 posts

186 months

Tuesday 19th May 2009
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Looks fine, priced well, but personally I'd only ever wear a full face helmet.

Antj

1,055 posts

202 months

Wednesday 20th May 2009
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also when your sitting in the hospital dribbling down your own chin and unable to speak due to a brain injury in the crash you have on the track day through no fault of your own, will you still be happy to have bought a cheap crash helmet????

I'd say spend half descent money, the more you spend the better the helmet.

Stephanie Plum

2,783 posts

213 months

Wednesday 20th May 2009
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Don't forget if you're planning on doing any MSV tracks or Silverstone, they are the first to implement the stiffer standards.

You won't get on track there with that helmet,

Munter

31,319 posts

243 months

Wednesday 20th May 2009
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MSV track rules mean it'll need to have one of the top 2 stickers in this picture:


Or don't go to MSV tracks....

Antj

1,055 posts

202 months

Wednesday 20th May 2009
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and when was the last time you had your helmet checked at an MSV day,

I did'nt even get a safety briefing last time at Bedford.

GC8

19,910 posts

192 months

Wednesday 20th May 2009
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Antj said:
also when your sitting in the hospital dribbling down your own chin and unable to speak due to a brain injury in the crash you have on the track day through no fault of your own, will you still be happy to have bought a cheap crash helmet????

I'd say spend half descent money, the more you spend the better the helmet.
Do you believe this rubbish? Sparco FIA appoved helmets are made by Yes: a cheap nasty Italian helmet manufacturer.

clubracing

335 posts

208 months

Wednesday 20th May 2009
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GC8 said:
Antj said:
also when your sitting in the hospital dribbling down your own chin and unable to speak due to a brain injury in the crash you have on the track day through no fault of your own, will you still be happy to have bought a cheap crash helmet????

I'd say spend half descent money, the more you spend the better the helmet.
Do you believe this rubbish? Sparco FIA appoved helmets are made by Yes: a cheap nasty Italian helmet manufacturer.
Are you saying that all Sparco products are cheap and nasty? They're an Italian company so I would expect it to be made in Italy.

Just because a helmet is more expensive does'nt necessarily mean its safer, although I would say that up to a point they are. A more expensive helmet does mean its better in respect of materials, features and finish.

GC8

19,910 posts

192 months

Wednesday 20th May 2009
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Of course not. Theres more bks talked about helmets here than anything else, and Im attempting to demonstrate that with a simple example. I wouldnt entertain a Yes helmet myself, but with a Sparco namestyle on and a Nomex lining, people foolishly presume that theyre superior to many actually superior helmets.

mrmr96

13,736 posts

206 months

Wednesday 20th May 2009
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I'm looking for a bog standard full face helmet for trackdays. How much do you lot reckon I should be spending?
£40?
£80?
£120?
More?

GC8

19,910 posts

192 months

Wednesday 20th May 2009
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Because we dont know whether venues and organisers will continue to follow the MSAs minimum requirement next year, its hard to say. If theyre sensible then the current BS6658 TypeA helemts should be more than adequate. If they foolishly follow the MSA (who are adopting the FIAs standard which requires a fire resistant lining, from next season) then youll need a BS6658 Type A/FR; Snell 2005 or FIA 2004 approved helmet, whichll cost considerably more but give you no benefit at all.

Personally, Id hedge my bets with a V2, because youll be able to use it for more than just track days of you wish and the cost is reasonable. I suspect that venues will back down if they are foolish enough to initially insist on Type A/FR helmets though, because itll serve no puspose other than to put people off.

GC8

19,910 posts

192 months

Wednesday 20th May 2009
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£139.

Nurburgsingh

5,156 posts

240 months

Wednesday 20th May 2009
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Are you saying that there is no benefit from having a fireproof lining for a crash helmet that is to be worn inside a car on a racetrack?

GC8

19,910 posts

192 months

Wednesday 20th May 2009
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As youre sat there in your tshirt and jeans Lali, yes: I am. Theres little benefit to a fireproof lining when youre wearing underwear, a three layer FIA suit and a balaclava either, if you think it through...

Munter

31,319 posts

243 months

Wednesday 20th May 2009
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Nurburgsingh said:
Are you saying that there is no benefit from having a fireproof lining for a crash helmet that is to be worn inside a car on a racetrack?
Not really if you are wearing jeans and a T-Shirt.... Oh look at my nicely preserved hair. Ignore my crispy body and face (assuming open face/visor melting and letting fire at your face). Seems a bit pointless.

Nurburgsingh

5,156 posts

240 months

Wednesday 20th May 2009
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I suppose when you put it like that....


Tim3003

34 posts

200 months

Wednesday 20th May 2009
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As a matter of interest, where can you get good value full-face helmets? The only online supplier I've found is Demon Tweeks, and with them you're looking at £300 minimum...

Nurburgsingh

5,156 posts

240 months

Wednesday 20th May 2009
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Tim3003 said:
As a matter of interest, where can you get good value full-face helmets? The only online supplier I've found is Demon Tweeks, and with them you're looking at £300 minimum...
I've seen a few online stores jsut google motorcycle helemt. The only down side is trying to judge the "fit" it's not as easy as say a air of trousers where 32" is 32". a slightly different shape lid can be the same size as another but feel horrible on your head.

I don't think anyone would disagree that if your're buying alid then it makes a lot of sense to try it on your head first.

GC8

19,910 posts

192 months

Wednesday 20th May 2009
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V2 is a Snell 2005 lid for £140: out of stock until the end of May though.

FlatPack

1,019 posts

247 months

Wednesday 20th May 2009
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I don't know if I'm missing something, but as I read the regs the blue stickered helmets will continue to be fine (unless MSV change their terms of course! It won't happen by default when the MSA regs change at the end of the year). In fact most decent bike helmets are still fine too (ACU Gold Star), it's only cheap helmets with just the EC approval that are a problem.

The full terms that you currently agree to when signing up for an MSV run track day are here - http://www.motorsportvision.co.uk/oulton-park/trac... (for Oulton Park, but the other MSV circuits are the same)

but the relevant bit is (my bold)

MSV regs said:
All participants must wear crash helmets of a recognised manufacture and complying with the current Safety Requirements of the BSI 6658-85A or BSI 6658 –85A/FR, or MSA/ACU/FIM/FIA standards. All helmets must be correctly fitted.
I don't know if they've softened their stance a bit or if someone just got the wrong end of the stick and blew the whole thing massively out of proportion, but it doesn't seem a big problem.