997 FACELIFT - UPDATE
997 FACELIFT - UPDATE
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forza whites

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2,555 posts

219 months

Monday 28th January 2008
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Just been at Porsche this morning...gleaned/blagged this from them: -
Deposits (3-5K) now being unofficially taken for 997 Facelift car - for AUGUST 2008 Delivery.

1. DDI injection S models with standard 380 BHP, standard carerra now upto 350 BHP.
2. New Rear Light clusters, slightly narrower with LED lights.
3. New Rear Bumper/PU (think this has been well documented).
4. New Front Bumper/PU again this seems to be well known.
5. New Headlights.
6. New Standard and Optional Alloys.
7. New Touchscreen SAT Navigation System & Bluetooth
8. New DASH, apparently completely reworking of the Interior...more options

Last build slot for current 997 is April 2008. Apparently Porsche GB/Reading have a new car with
some or all of the above, under wraps for evaluation/feedback (their words not mine!)



Wanta996(Gotta)

5,622 posts

231 months

Monday 28th January 2008
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I pity the fools that Paid £8k for that upgrade for the 997S.........thats if anyone actually did pay for it.

Hopefully the price wont increase too much as i am starting to think that paying £75-£80k for a fully specced 997S/Targa/Convertible is a bit of a joke.

P.S. I guess a BMW 135 coupe(ugly little thing) coming standard with 300bhp made Porsche wake up and smell the coffee.


Erik997

1,289 posts

232 months

Monday 28th January 2008
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Interesting - Any news on the DSG/PDK gearbox?

forza whites

Original Poster:

2,555 posts

219 months

Monday 28th January 2008
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Whoops!
Missed that off!
DSG floppy thing or Manual, Tiptronic to go!!



Erik997 said:
Interesting - Any news on the DSG/PDK gearbox?

Wanta996(Gotta)

5,622 posts

231 months

Monday 28th January 2008
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I am suprised that no magazine has tested it yet, especially the DSG option as this is surely make or break time for Porsche with a dual clutch system.

Personally I hope its fantastic as i loved using a friends Gallardo E-Gear system.

[AJ]

3,079 posts

222 months

Monday 28th January 2008
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I wonder if the TT will get the same new interior, gearbox options and direct injection? I hope the keep the GT1 inspired engine in the TT.

cdixon

330 posts

230 months

Wednesday 6th February 2008
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forza whites said:
Just been at Porsche this morning...gleaned/blagged this from them: -
Deposits (3-5K) now being unofficially taken for 997 Facelift car - for AUGUST 2008 Delivery.

1. DDI injection S models with standard 380 BHP, standard carerra now upto 350 BHP.
2. New Rear Light clusters, slightly narrower with LED lights.
3. New Rear Bumper/PU (think this has been well documented).
4. New Front Bumper/PU again this seems to be well known.
5. New Headlights.
6. New Standard and Optional Alloys.
7. New Touchscreen SAT Navigation System & Bluetooth
8. New DASH, apparently completely reworking of the Interior...more options

Last build slot for current 997 is April 2008. Apparently Porsche GB/Reading have a new car with
some or all of the above, under wraps for evaluation/feedback (their words not mine!)




I got more or less the same message from my OPC when i put my £3k down last week. Basically they gave me three options. Take a pre-built car they had kicking around in Reading, Take what they claimed to be the last C2s build slot for April build / May delivery. Or wait for a DFI car in August/September.

Adam B

29,532 posts

278 months

Wednesday 6th February 2008
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forza whites said:
DSG floppy thing or Manual, Tiptronic to go!!
praise the lord and good riddance tiptronic

this, bluetooth and proper ipod connectivity are long overdue

343bhp

381 posts

274 months

Wednesday 6th February 2008
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This is really useful and makes me think about getting a C2S/PDK this year if true. Will a C4S be launched at the same time do you think ? Keep the news coming - TIA

RDMcG

20,599 posts

231 months

Wednesday 6th February 2008
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Any Gt3 version?

Kaiser Soze

235 posts

249 months

Wednesday 6th February 2008
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997 turbo face lift prototype winter testing.

Shamelessly stolen from worldcarfans.com

http://www.worldcarfans.com/9080205.001/porsche-91...

More pictures halfway down the page on the right.

cityneil

165 posts

254 months

Wednesday 6th February 2008
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Adam B said:
forza whites said:
DSG floppy thing or Manual, Tiptronic to go!!
What is the DSG floppy thing? Flappy padel? Having looked at used Targas, now thinking of 997 S cabriolet (2006/7) but thinking maybe I should go for a new facelift jobby - or wait until 998 launch. Doing my head in! Which way to go?

DeltaHedge

567 posts

237 months

Thursday 7th February 2008
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[AJ] said:
I wonder if the TT will get the same new interior, gearbox options and direct injection? I hope the keep the GT1 inspired engine in the TT.
Am told that Turbo is keeping Tip and NOT getting DSG for the foreseeable.....

Koln-RS

4,101 posts

236 months

Thursday 7th February 2008
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I heard that Tip will continue for a while, as it's really just an auto-box and particularly popular in the US.

The new 'paddle shift' is obviously a manual gearbox with an electronically actuated clutch and gear selection system and may have more appeal to traditional manual customers.

Erik997

1,289 posts

232 months

Thursday 7th February 2008
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DeltaHedge said:
[AJ] said:
I wonder if the TT will get the same new interior, gearbox options and direct injection? I hope the keep the GT1 inspired engine in the TT.
Am told that Turbo is keeping Tip and NOT getting DSG for the foreseeable.....
Heard the same thing.

Apparently the VW/Audi developed DSG system can't cope with the TTs power yet and needs more development - that's why you also can't get the DSG system in the Audi RS4 but can in the S4.

MogulBoy

3,061 posts

247 months

Thursday 7th February 2008
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The Bugatti has a DSG box so it can be done, it's just a question of the economies of scale and getting the price right but they could do it tomorrow if they wanted to....

[AJ]

3,079 posts

222 months

Thursday 7th February 2008
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MogulBoy said:
The Bugatti has a DSG box so it can be done, it's just a question of the economies of scale and getting the price right but they could do it tomorrow if they wanted to....
Exactly... bloody accountants!

Dr S

5,103 posts

250 months

Thursday 7th February 2008
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MogulBoy said:
The Bugatti has a DSG box so it can be done, it's just a question of the economies of scale and getting the price right but they could do it tomorrow if they wanted to....
And we Porsche customers are used to lots of pain as far as prices are concerned...wink

Trixman

524 posts

224 months

Thursday 7th February 2008
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Erik997 said:
DeltaHedge said:
[AJ] said:
I wonder if the TT will get the same new interior, gearbox options and direct injection? I hope the keep the GT1 inspired engine in the TT.
Am told that Turbo is keeping Tip and NOT getting DSG for the foreseeable.....
Heard the same thing.

Apparently the VW/Audi developed DSG system can't cope with the TTs power yet and needs more development - that's why you also can't get the DSG system in the Audi RS4 but can in the S4.
But the R8 has a DSG box doesnt it? And the same engine as the RS4...

Wanta996(Gotta)

5,622 posts

231 months

Thursday 7th February 2008
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I dont think the R8s is the DSG box - its just there tiptronic with a paddle shift - Bit like Porsches steering wheel push-shift on there Autos.

However, Lamborghini and Ferrari have been using them since 2000(F1 360)2003(EGear Gallardo)so it can be done if they are willing.