RE: Melling engine gets a home

RE: Melling engine gets a home

Tuesday 9th May 2006

Melling engine gets a home

ASVE announces exclusive dealership


Hello Cerbie, need a new motor?
Hello Cerbie, need a new motor?
Autocraft Special Vehicle Engineering has announced that it's been appointed the exclusive dealer for Al Melling's TVR AJP V8 replacement engine.

The motor is an all-new billet alloy 32-valve four-cam 5-litre pump delivering 580bhp at 7,300 rpm. Torque is 438lb-ft at 5,800rpm. ASVE said that the engine will bolt into the Cerbera chassis and mate to the standard bellhousing, and is a direct replacement for the TVR 16 valve 4.2- or 4.5-litre V8.

The company is a partner with engine designer Al Melling and supported by design and engineering consultancy MCD. ASVE said its mission is "to provide the markets of both TVR and our other exotic sportscar owners with an honest service, and our agenda has always been to keep the customer on the road and smiling."

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jellison

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12,803 posts

290 months

Tuesday 9th May 2006
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Mated to the T5!!!!(that will last 5 minutes) - 5-litre pump (I think they mean lump!)

>> Edited by jellison on Tuesday 9th May 11:16

dinkel

27,343 posts

271 months

Tuesday 9th May 2006
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so after all, a 32v V8.

dvs_dave

9,040 posts

238 months

Tuesday 9th May 2006
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Speed 6 replacement? Quad Cam 32 valves? That's quite a fancy head? Surely you mean Speed 8 (AJP8) replacement?

Does anyone think that this engine will be the outsourced V8 that TVR are talking about for their new models? Would be absolutely fantastic if it was. Would be nice if they did the same with the Speed 6 too.

This certainly knocks all those Yank Iron (sorry Jellison, alloy ) conversions into a cocked hat.....at a price no doubt.

>> Edited by dvs_dave on Tuesday 9th May 11:23

trackcar

6,453 posts

239 months

Tuesday 9th May 2006
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Awesome. That should put the cat amongst the pigeons. Well done MCD ASVE .. you guys are the dogs bits

Podie

46,645 posts

288 months

Tuesday 9th May 2006
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Can open.... worms... everywhere...

jellison

Original Poster:

12,803 posts

290 months

Tuesday 9th May 2006
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dvs_dave said:
Speed 6 replacement? Quad Cam 32 valves? That's quite a fancy head? Surely you mean Speed 8 (AJP8) replacement?

This certainly knocks all those Yank Iron (sorry Jellison, alloy ) conversions into a cocked hat.....at a price no doubt.
Indeed! Presume it will be like the AJPV8 - but different - cos of coypright stuff - I can't wait to here the price for it and the full gearbox and install cost.

cerbfan

1,167 posts

240 months

Tuesday 9th May 2006
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Anybody hazard a guess on the price of one these then?

And the most crucial question is will it pop and bang on the over run like the AJPV8? If not i'm not interested.

RichardD

3,608 posts

258 months

Tuesday 9th May 2006
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Podie said:
Can open.... worms... everywhere...
No idea what you mean. You can't be hinting that this engine should be in the a current TVR flagship with the SP6 as merely entry level surely.. That it would have solved the dilemma of a crated V8 that seems to be on the way

jellison

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12,803 posts

290 months

Tuesday 9th May 2006
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580bhp - might as well say 700 until run on the dyno or better in the car - don't doubt is possible with Melling directly involved and 4v heads though.

Hope Melling has more success than Ash did!

www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?p=3&f=&t=267121&h=0

RichardD

3,608 posts

258 months

Tuesday 9th May 2006
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jellison said:
...Presume it will be like the AJPV8 - but different - cos of coypright stuff - I can't wait to here the price for it and the full gearbox and install cost.

Surely the copyright of the AJP8 isn't actually with TVR (would be interested in clarification), so this engine seems to me to be an AJP8 with 32v heads - the engine that Melling wanted to be the original Cerb engine, but Wheeler wanting 2v heads for more lower down torque.

jellison

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12,803 posts

290 months

Tuesday 9th May 2006
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Who knows?!

bluebottle

3,498 posts

253 months

Tuesday 9th May 2006
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jellison said:
dvs_dave said:
Speed 6 replacement? Quad Cam 32 valves? That's quite a fancy head? Surely you mean Speed 8 (AJP8) replacement?

This certainly knocks all those Yank Iron (sorry Jellison, alloy ) conversions into a cocked hat.....at a price no doubt.
Indeed! Presume it will be like the AJPV8 - but different - cos of coypright stuff - I can't wait to here the price for it and the full gearbox and install cost.


If this is a correct assumption then i now have a viable option for upgrading of my Griff and staying in the TVR fold with a Tuscan V8 I have seen many Tuscan prices sub good Griffs so should be an affordable mod for many of us...We need prices, we need delivery times........and we need it now. Life has just gotten interesting again

dinkel

27,343 posts

271 months

Tuesday 9th May 2006
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You still have to put the power down . . . so dropping this 5er in your standard Cerb is just the beginning . . .

On the other hand: anyone with a well sorted AJP8 in the Cerb should think twice . . . this looks like a new motor . . . and I'm sure no one is waiting for a period of trail and error (again).

>> Edited by dinkel on Tuesday 9th May 11:58

jellison

Original Poster:

12,803 posts

290 months

Tuesday 9th May 2006
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must be think end of high teen - 20k with suitable gbox and fitting.

Does it even exist? - if so lets see it and the fitted price - not with the t5 (as that is rated to 300ft/lbs by tremec themselves!

RichardD

3,608 posts

258 months

Tuesday 9th May 2006
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bluebottle said:
...Tuscan V8 ...
I really think there has been a typo and this is purely an AJP8 replacement and not a SP6 one. If it was the latter then this article should be posted in general TVR not Cerb?

However I'd like to be wrong and the idea of a purely British bonkers big bhp V8 engine in the car you dream of being a reality

apache

39,731 posts

297 months

Tuesday 9th May 2006
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dinkel said:
You still have to put the power down . . . so dropping this 5er in your standard Cerb is just the beginning . . .

On the other hand: anyone with a well sorted AJP8 in the Cerb should think twice . . . this looks like a new motor . . . and I'm sure no one is waiting for a period of trail and error (again).

>> Edited by dinkel on Tuesday 9th May 11:58



if it's got gobs of torque she'll be right, I wonder wether the trans and axle will take it tho

morebeanz

3,283 posts

249 months

Tuesday 9th May 2006
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The article doesn't actually say whether it's a revised straight six, or a V8. Given the "pump" inference, couldn't it be a supercharged six?

dinkel

27,343 posts

271 months

Tuesday 9th May 2006
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morebeanz said:
The article doesn't actually say whether it's a revised straight six, or a V8. Given the "pump" inference, couldn't it be a supercharged six?


5 liter? Or I hope not . . .

dinkel said:
apache said:
if it's got gobs of torque she'll be right, I wonder wether the trans and axle will take it tho


No . . . you need to adjust / replace bits . . .

RichardD

3,608 posts

258 months

Tuesday 9th May 2006
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morebeanz said:
...supercharged six?
If it was a six, then it would have 5.333333 valves per cylinder !!

SXS

3,065 posts

270 months

Tuesday 9th May 2006
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* Cost?
* Waiting time?

The answers to the above 2 questions would probably kill the prospect of such a wonderful Melling option hitting the streets.