They fit! Lotus seats anyone?
They fit! Lotus seats anyone?
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Chimjunkie

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2,879 posts

235 months

Tuesday 29th January 2008
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Lotus S1 seats only sat in car on blocks at moment but the driving position is good, plenty of base width and the shoulder does not foul the side of the hood pivot. Got to fibreglass in Aluminium box-section to form new mount. Too many exciting projects going on at once... Must finish some of them! Will add better cushioning to base to reduce "lotus numb bum"...







Aubrey

1,157 posts

220 months

Tuesday 29th January 2008
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Wow they look very smart! I take it they are a lot more supportive that the standard Chim seats? biggrin

Look forward to see more pics when the rest of the interior is in place.

thenick

4,027 posts

236 months

Tuesday 29th January 2008
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Nice! I like those, how much did they set you back? And how much work was involved etc?

VictorMeldrew

8,293 posts

301 months

Tuesday 29th January 2008
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Why? They don't hinge, so no access to cubbys, they look pants and I'd bet they're damned uncomfortable. Doesn't seem like an improvement over standard fitment to me - what am I missing?

Chimjunkie

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2,879 posts

235 months

Tuesday 29th January 2008
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No they dont hinge and the passenger seat is fixed. The drivers seat is on rails so some access to that cubby hole i have never used in 3 years rolleyes They offer a massive improvement in support. I bought the seats for 190 quid. I have not decided whether i fit these or not. May see if Serie 2 seats fit which are much more comfortable. I will be retrimming them anyway to add more style and get an exact colour match for my car.

Another interesting points is that the passenger seat can be mounted 2" lower than the original seats and go 6" further back offering a big improvement on leg room. BUT the lower seat does not look so good from front/rear view...

Also not decided on what to do with seatbelt. Will see soon.

spend

12,581 posts

275 months

Tuesday 29th January 2008
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VictorMeldrew said:
Why? They don't hinge, so no access to cubbys, they look pants and I'd bet they're damned uncomfortable. Doesn't seem like an improvement over standard fitment to me - what am I missing?
I think we need to form an old fogies club Phil hehe

Dave

VictorMeldrew

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301 months

Tuesday 29th January 2008
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spend said:
VictorMeldrew said:
Why? They don't hinge, so no access to cubbys, they look pants and I'd bet they're damned uncomfortable. Doesn't seem like an improvement over standard fitment to me - what am I missing?
I think we need to form an old fogies club Phil hehe

Dave
The clue's in the name Dave!!!

Chimjunkie - load up on pies; the standard seats get more supportive when the tunnel and door hold you in place anyway! wink

I'm intrigued though - how does the passenger seat go 6" further back? Do you actually mean the seat is shorter so there is 6" of extra "legroom" in front of the seat? The standard passenger seat in mine goes hard back against the parcel shelf, so how could I get something 6 inches further back than that? Genuinely puzzled.

Edited by VictorMeldrew on Tuesday 29th January 19:19

Chimjunkie

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235 months

Tuesday 29th January 2008
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The shape of the seat is different and much slimmer. From your back to then back of the seat is just over 1cm. Not measured the 6", But with old seat in my legs were bent. With lotus seat legs are straight and still a little room. Dont think my old seat would go right back without the seatbelt being jammed.

Just saved around 20kg on the interior so definitely no pies!

spend

12,581 posts

275 months

Tuesday 29th January 2008
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I think the 'depth' of the seat is a good point for all those who whine about legroom (battery shifts...). The base of that seat just wouldn't work for a jaunt down to Italy tho wink

Dave

Chimjunkie

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Tuesday 29th January 2008
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I'm off to Nurbergring and then Monoco in a new Lotus Europa come summer. Think i shall start training my butt now!! I'm sure there are some good foams out there which can be used to improve the seat base.

spend

12,581 posts

275 months

Tuesday 29th January 2008
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Like this?



Dave
but you'll be mistaken for BB & Pascount0 quite often

Chimjunkie

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Tuesday 29th January 2008
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DAVE! STEP AWAY FROM THE COMPUTER!!! Let Mr Blobby rest in peace. wink

spend

12,581 posts

275 months

Tuesday 29th January 2008
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How can I forget Mr B???? Have you never seen any of the Griff owners?evilhehe

Dave

Aubrey

1,157 posts

220 months

Tuesday 29th January 2008
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spend said:
How can I forget Mr B???? Have you never seen any of the Griff owners?evilhehe

Dave
Thouht they were more like Noel himself? i.e. beards... Could say a lot more biggrin

im

34,302 posts

241 months

Wednesday 30th January 2008
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Aubrey said:
Wow they look very smart! I take it they are a lot more supportive that the standard Chim seats? biggrin

Look forward to see more pics when the rest of the interior is in place.
Ditto...

TheGriffalo

72,863 posts

263 months

Wednesday 30th January 2008
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Interesting... Could you bolt the seats to the standard rails?

David H

809 posts

265 months

Wednesday 30th January 2008
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Looks great smile

How will the headroom be when finally fitted? Looks like there could be an improvement if anything?

I've been thinking about T350 seats for a while now but they don't seam very supportive either (confirmed by numerous magazine reports). The Lotus seats look to offer better support and look like they belong (unlike ALL aftermarket seats when fitted to a TVR).

Will be interesting to see how they are on a long Journey because I find the Griff seats mighty comfy, just lack support.

LordGrover

34,092 posts

236 months

Wednesday 30th January 2008
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spend said:
How can I forget Mr B???? Have you never seen any of the Griff owners?evilhehe

Dave
Must ...
... not
... fall

... for
... it!


Darn! can't resist:


The usual return jibe


Spend at his weekend job

im

34,302 posts

241 months

Wednesday 30th January 2008
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It's so sad........

Griff owners hanging around the Chim forums



weeping

Chimjunkie

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2,879 posts

235 months

Wednesday 30th January 2008
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Oh Lordy lordy lord grover rolleyes

The rail is spaced about 2 inch further apart from the standard TVR one. Because the seats are based on a rigid plastic frame they are very slim. I have to put an 80mm block under back rail points and 40mm under front. There is complete flexibility in mounting height from there. If you look at my photos these were taken with the seats mounted around 1cm higher than the chim seats. I shall be glass fibre bonding some box section aluminum to form spacers for the new mounts. Rake and height can then be fine tuned with washers. Got to work out carpeting around the higher mounts etc..

In answer to the mounting question. It is probably more work to reuse TVR rails than to build new ones. Beside the way the TVR rails are just bolted through a flimsy bit of floorpan is truly unbelievable. Makes me feel there is absolutely no care in safety taken with these cars.