spelling pedants please help e/affect
spelling pedants please help e/affect
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baSkey

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14,291 posts

255 months

Friday 12th October 2007
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will the rises in interest rates we have experienced:
a) effect the economy
b) affect the economy

it doen't matter how many times i read the definitions i am afraid i don't get this one..!

cheers.

Plotloss

67,280 posts

299 months

Friday 12th October 2007
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effect past tense?

torres del paine

1,588 posts

250 months

Friday 12th October 2007
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The rises in interest rates will affect the economy

or

The effect of interest rates on the economy...

baSkey

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Friday 12th October 2007
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Plotloss said:
effect past tense?
no 'going forward' i.e. the end of all the fixed rates etc etc.

dr.sickman

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251 months

Friday 12th October 2007
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b) is the most correct

Sheets Tabuer

21,392 posts

244 months

Friday 12th October 2007
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B means to cause something, it will make it change etc

A means has made it happen, for instance the bollox phrase man as an effect on global warming

damn it's too early my fingers don't work

Edited by Sheets Tabuer on Friday 12th October 10:03

Stuismyname

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266 months

Friday 12th October 2007
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Affect is to have an impact on something - the action I took affected Ms Smith's marriage. Or, to pretend - he affected a posh accent on the phone.

Effect is to cause something, or the result - I effected the termination of Brian's employment, or, the rise in interest rates had a negative effect on public spending. Or, the use/operation of something - the punitive tax regime will remain in effect until at least as soon as Labour is voted out.

shouldbworking

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Friday 12th October 2007
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baSkey

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Friday 12th October 2007
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torres del paine said:
The effect of interest rates on the economy...
yes this seems to be the one.

maybe it's my dictionary (although dictionary.com is much the same), but i can't discern any difference.

anyway thank you.

baSkey

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Friday 12th October 2007
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Stuismyname said:
Affect is to have an impact on something - the action I took affected Ms Smith's marriage. Or, to pretend - he affected a posh accent on the phone.

Effect is to cause something, or the result - I effected the termination of Brian's employment, or, the rise in interest rates had a negative effect on public spending. Or, the use/operation of something - the punitive tax regime will remain in effect until at least as soon as Labour is voted out.
i am not stoopid - but they sound like the same thing to me. i can see a slight difference but i don't quite get it.

kambites

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Friday 12th October 2007
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shouldbworking said:
hehe

baSkey

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Friday 12th October 2007
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i might change it a bit but:

There is, however, a risk that the effect of the slowing economy, combined with the effect of the sustained increases in base rates, will have a greater impact next year than expected.

motco

17,601 posts

275 months

Friday 12th October 2007
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torres del paine said:
The rises in interest rates will affect the economy

or

The effect of interest rates on the economy...
yes

kambites

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250 months

Friday 12th October 2007
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Basically, "affect" is a verb, "effect" is a noun.

Except in the rare case that the picture above plays on where effect is a verb meaning "bring about". Only idiots use that meaning though because it's unnecessarily confusing. wink

Edited by kambites on Friday 12th October 10:12

baSkey

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Friday 12th October 2007
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kambites said:
Basically, "affect" is a verb, "effect" is a noun.

Except in the rare case that the picture above plays on where effect is a verb meaning "bring about".
well exactly and it's this 'bring about' issue i am battling with!

so is my paragraph correct (over use of commas aside!).

edited noted!

Edited by baSkey on Friday 12th October 10:13

baSkey

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Friday 12th October 2007
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baSkey said:
i might change it a bit but:

There is, however, a risk that the effect of the slowing economy, combined with the effect of the sustained increases in base rates, will have a greater impact next year than expected.
this is wrong isn't it?

it should be:
There is, however, a risk that the affect of the slowing economy, combined with the affect of the sustained increases in base rates, will have a greater impact next year than expected.
which is what i had originally..

uriel

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280 months

Friday 12th October 2007
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He effected an effect, which effectively affected his effects.

HTH

torres del paine

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Friday 12th October 2007
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kambites said:
Basically, "affect" is a verb, "effect" is a noun.

Except in the rare case that the picture above plays on where effect is a verb meaning "bring about". Only idiots use that meaning though because it's unnecessarily confusing. wink

Edited by kambites on Friday 12th October 10:12
Yes.

Affect is a verb, a 'doing' word, like 'play' or 'drive'.

Effect is a noun, a 'name', and describes the action.

baSkey

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Friday 12th October 2007
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uriel said:
He effected an effect, which effectively affected his effects.

HTH
so my paragraph needs affect? hehe

kambites

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Friday 12th October 2007
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baSkey said:
baSkey said:
i might change it a bit but:

There is, however, a risk that the effect of the slowing economy, combined with the effect of the sustained increases in base rates, will have a greater impact next year than expected.
this is wrong isn't it?

it should be:
There is, however, a risk that the affect of the slowing economy, combined with the affect of the sustained increases in base rates, will have a greater impact next year than expected.
which is what i had originally..
No you were right the first time. tongue out