Jag XKR and BMW 840Ci

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Frances The Mute

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1,816 posts

242 months

Tuesday 29th May 2012
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£6k - £7k budget. That money can get a supercharged Jag or a late 840Ci (non-nikasil) 4.4.

What would you choose and why?

Codswallop

5,250 posts

195 months

Tuesday 29th May 2012
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Jag for me. Faster, better looking, better interior.

kicks

144 posts

188 months

Tuesday 29th May 2012
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BMW for me. I was tempted by it recently. Great car to drive, great sound and lovely place to be in. I've never driven the Jag but don't like how it looks.

Carlique

1,631 posts

165 months

Tuesday 29th May 2012
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The Jag because imo it's absolutely stunning. Plus, you get to say 'Jaaaaaggggggg'...

Baryonyx

18,022 posts

160 months

Tuesday 29th May 2012
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The BMW, without hesitation.

Globs

13,841 posts

232 months

Wednesday 30th May 2012
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Carlique said:
The Jag because imo it's absolutely stunning. Plus, you get to say 'Jaaaaaggggggg'...

pits

6,429 posts

191 months

Wednesday 30th May 2012
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Having had a few Jags, not XKRs and an 840CI
840 all the way, near enough all genuine parts are now in the value line so fairly cheap, ours has done 140k or so and to be honest, ignoring things we have done in a "just because" frame of mind it owes us, tyres, 2 rear springs, set of pads, some stab bars, a lower arm in 4-5 years of ownership, everything works, well the LCD display as gone funny but they all do it.


Compare that to the Jags we had, electrically they are st no other way to put it, they are st, radios which will not recognise the CD changer meaning you have to buy a new head unit and track down the wiring harness for one, electric aerials that stop working, most annoying thing of all, their want for constantly wanting to blow manifold gaskets or cracking manifolds, from what I have heard on "internet lingo" and research into buying one
1996-2000 models can/do suffer nikasil problems
Suspension bushes on lower arms front can wear out stupidly quick which can cause steering and suspension damage/problems
Tensioners IIRC which means your timing chain stops timing the engine properly
Parts prices, Jaguar prices will make your eyes water I remember going in for some bolts to hold wing on, pack of 5 £24
Not the best of handling cars from what I understand
Electrics though, god they are awful in a Jag when they rear their head with a problem, had probably 4 different cd changers, 10 different standard oem headunits and it would never recognise the CD

Personally for me, it would have to be the 840 it wins
Can seat 4 happily to be honest
Easy to work on yourself
Parts aren't that expensive but genuine BMW is advised
For what they are, they are near bullet proof if you buy a good one and maintain it, remember they didn't sell very well so the people who did want them looked after them well with a few slipping through the net, the Jag sold in bucket loads for people who wanted a flash car and there are a lot more ropey ones out there.
4.4 V8 is fantastic, very few 4.0 around most had engines replaced

And it is
Pillerless coupe with pop up headlights


Just look at it, the Jag will never get you a second glance, the 8er always will

Bob_Defly

3,732 posts

232 months

Wednesday 30th May 2012
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Is the 850i (or Ci or CSi) as reliable?

billzeebub

3,865 posts

200 months

Wednesday 30th May 2012
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XKR

E31Shrew

5,923 posts

193 months

Wednesday 30th May 2012
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Bob_Defly said:
Is the 850i (or Ci or CSi) as reliable?
No need for the 850Ci really and they are a little older [but cheaper]. No performance improvements, but a Csi will set you back a minimum of £15k if you can find one, but it gives you an extra 100bhp , up from 286 to 380!

840 Sport all the way. Now on my 2nd and it's a peach! Go to www.clube31.com for any advice as there's a wealth of knowledge to be gleaned. As the OP said go for a 97, 98 or if you can find one a 99.

Few little foibles as in any car that's over 10 year sold. Pixels on the trip computer can be missing [ fixable ] but all in all a pretty robust vehicle.

Drove to Spain and back in ours March this year. Didn't miss a beat and averaged 26mpg.

Superfluous picture of mine!

In my sad old eyes the design still looks fresh, as they weren't replaced with a newer model immediately. When they did, if you can call it a replacement, they released the 6 series....




Edited by E31Shrew on Wednesday 30th May 07:23


Edited by E31Shrew on Wednesday 30th May 07:25

E31Shrew

5,923 posts

193 months

Wednesday 30th May 2012
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OP...See you're in the West Mids area, so if you can make your way to Shrewsbury you're welcome to take it out for a 'leisurely' spin!

milu

2,356 posts

267 months

Wednesday 30th May 2012
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I was deciding between these 2 just a couple of weeks ago....bought an 840ci

Its not perfect(yet) but it has already drawn positive comments so must still look the part!

vixen1700

23,153 posts

271 months

Wednesday 30th May 2012
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Love Jags, but in your position, I'd go for the best 840 you can find that hasn't been messed about with. smile

GhostDriver

878 posts

193 months

Wednesday 30th May 2012
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Was mooching around on the clasifieds and saw this one lately. Was really tempted, thankfully it has been sold, but in that gold colour, looks amazing...
cloud9

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/largepic.asp?i=39...

wackojacko

8,581 posts

191 months

Wednesday 30th May 2012
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840ci on aesthetics alone.....

Six Fiend

6,067 posts

216 months

Wednesday 30th May 2012
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I'm very much a Jag man but the 8-series is a lovely car and for the money that's where I'd be looking too. The BMW V8 is glorious when allowed to sing a little too wink

Frances The Mute

Original Poster:

1,816 posts

242 months

Wednesday 30th May 2012
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Thanks for the input, gents.

I'm a BMW zealot, but have always liked the look of the Jag since it came out.
There's space in my life for a 'GT-ish' car so it would be rude not indulge myself. The charged XKRs certainly did pique my interest for obvious reasons and I'm trying to diversify my fleet so it seemed like the natural choice - outside of the ruinous offerings from TVR.

E31Shrew said:
OP...See you're in the West Mids area, so if you can make your way to Shrewsbury you're welcome to take it out for a 'leisurely' spin!
Cheers, Shrew. I may well take you up on that!

V88Dicky

7,307 posts

184 months

Wednesday 30th May 2012
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If you asked me in say, 1998, to choose, I'd say the 840i.

If you asked me to choose between their new equivalents, then the XKR.

I think that's an indication of how far Jag have come.


So at that budget, it's the 840 for me.

pits

6,429 posts

191 months

Wednesday 30th May 2012
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Wish ours still looked like this.



Now it looks like this frown



Wont even go there on the insurance, tip I will give you, get the car valued and on an agreed value policy, ours eventually paid up but it took several months and £15k worth of hire car to pay out the correct market value for the car, now just have to fix it, not bad completely shafted for a non fault claim.

E31Shrew

5,923 posts

193 months

Wednesday 30th May 2012
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Got your pm OP!