Boxster 3.2S - RUF Conversion

Boxster 3.2S - RUF Conversion

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Peps71

Original Poster:

2 posts

195 months

Thursday 27th March 2008
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Hi,

Just wondered if anyone has had the RUF conversion on their boxster and how it went, what was their upgrade (engine replacement or just tuning) etc. Also anyone used evolve for their ecu remap and what the performance difference was like

cheers
lee

andy74b

832 posts

229 months

Friday 28th March 2008
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Would be interested to see what people think aswell. Just bought a 3.2S and was wondering the about dropping in a GT3 engine and uprating brakes and suspension for a real fun car.

Dr S

5,002 posts

228 months

Friday 28th March 2008
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andy74b said:
Would be interested to see what people think aswell. Just bought a 3.2S and was wondering the about dropping in a GT3 engine and uprating brakes and suspension for a real fun car.
Sounds the business. In case you do this I'd be more than interested to learn how it went

NineMeister

1,146 posts

260 months

Friday 28th March 2008
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If you are interested, we are just putting the finishing touches to a new supercharger conversion for the Boxster S which is looking good for over 350hp. The car we have fitted the prototype kit to has also had a front/rear 996TT brake upgrade and a handling package, even with a partially mapped engine the car is blisteringly quick. Ballpark figure for the complete intercooled blower upgrade is £7k+VAT which will be a whole heap of cash less than a GT3 engine upgrade (the GT3 engine doesn't fit the boxster gearbox for a start...). We should see the final results within the next few weeks.

andy74b

832 posts

229 months

Friday 28th March 2008
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NineMeister said:
If you are interested, we are just putting the finishing touches to a new supercharger conversion for the Boxster S which is looking good for over 350hp. The car we have fitted the prototype kit to has also had a front/rear 996TT brake upgrade and a handling package, even with a partially mapped engine the car is blisteringly quick. Ballpark figure for the complete intercooled blower upgrade is £7k+VAT which will be a whole heap of cash less than a GT3 engine upgrade (the GT3 engine doesn't fit the boxster gearbox for a start...). We should see the final results within the next few weeks.
Running the supercharger on my 993 and always feel that the acceleration is blistering but seems to run out of top end. Don't ever think its been set up fully so maybe i should get the car over to you. Would be interested to come and see the boxster when its done. Whats the price of the brake upgrade?

Peps71

Original Poster:

2 posts

195 months

Friday 28th March 2008
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Ninemeister - yes that does sound very interesting, do you have a website etc or is it private work? if so what about warranties & servicing. Keep us posted.

cheers
Lee

paultither

1,320 posts

202 months

Friday 28th March 2008
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NineMeister, completly off topic but I see you support Warrington Wolves. Rob Parker is a mate of mine, we went to high school together and often frequented 'the subby club' in Leigh, do you know him?

Pugsey

5,813 posts

216 months

Friday 28th March 2008
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andy74b said:
Would be interested to see what people think aswell. Just bought a 3.2S and was wondering the about dropping in a GT3 engine and uprating brakes and suspension for a real fun car.
The GT3 engine won't fit. Ruf and TTP will both drop the current 997 lump into the Boxster for you. Just had a quote from Ruf of around 30k Euros for the 3.8S (complete with Porsche upgrade to 380bhp) transplant.

shoestring7

6,138 posts

248 months

Friday 28th March 2008
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Pugsey said:
andy74b said:
Would be interested to see what people think aswell. Just bought a 3.2S and was wondering the about dropping in a GT3 engine and uprating brakes and suspension for a real fun car.
The GT3 engine won't fit. Ruf and TTP will both drop the current 997 lump into the Boxster for you. Just had a quote from Ruf of around 30k Euros for the 3.8S (complete with Porsche upgrade to 380bhp) transplant.
The sceptics are doing the same thing with the Cayman: http://www.farnbacherloles.com/performance/info/?i...

SS7

Don

28,377 posts

286 months

Friday 28th March 2008
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NineMeister said:
If you are interested, we are just putting the finishing touches to a new supercharger conversion for the Boxster S which is looking good for over 350hp. The car we have fitted the prototype kit to has also had a front/rear 996TT brake upgrade and a handling package, even with a partially mapped engine the car is blisteringly quick. Ballpark figure for the complete intercooled blower upgrade is £7k+VAT which will be a whole heap of cash less than a GT3 engine upgrade (the GT3 engine doesn't fit the boxster gearbox for a start...). We should see the final results within the next few weeks.
Ohhhh...

...please post all about this when you have the car finished...

Is the handling package and brake upgrade necessary - or an additional nice to have. Clearly if you are going faster you need to stop quicker...and terminal velocity at the ends of the straights will be higher - but out on the road I'd be using the acceleration...not the top speed.

350bhp. Dribble.

NineMeister

1,146 posts

260 months

Friday 28th March 2008
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Oops, what have I started now??

In no particular order:

Unfortunately Paul I don't know Rob or any of the Wolves squad, although I have met the manager Paul Cullen a couple of times. Next time you see him, tell him that if any of the lads are interested in fast cars to drop in and see us anytime, we are only at the back of Speedkarting.

The brakes are not exxential, but they are recommended. I'll have to get a price for the package, but what I can tell you is that as far as I know we are the only company to have worked out how to bolt the 996TT/GT3 brakes onto the back end of the S chassis.

After getting to grips with the ignition system and finding the right plugs to use, the prototype kit has just pulled a run of over 400Nm and 375hp on our dyno this morning, so even though we will probably turn the boost down a little, 350hp will be a given for the production kit.

As with any upgrade of this type, we cannot warranty the engine inless we have built it ourselves. Given the problems associated with the Boxster and 996 lumps the worst case scenario is that you will split a liner, so if this happens we already have a block repair and re-inforcement programme which would be a permanent repair that we could warranty.

There is no info on our website as the work is currently being done on a customer's car in private, however once it is ready you should hear about it pretty quickly as there are 3 magazines gagging to feature it, besides which I will probably post it here first.

NineMeister

1,146 posts

260 months

Friday 28th March 2008
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The 996TT brake conversion costs £3000 +VAT and consists of:

1. GT3 Master cylinder
2. GT3 front calipers, pads and discs
3. GT3 rear discs and pads
4. Conversion machining and special 9m Racing parts
5. Installation, bleeding and fluid

The front calipers are available in yellow or red, the original front calipers are then relocated to the rear but there would be an extra cost for painting them to match the new 6 pot front calipers.

Is is worth it?

Your choice but wow, they are awesome!!

andy74b

832 posts

229 months

Friday 28th March 2008
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NineMeister said:
The 996TT brake conversion costs £3000 +VAT and consists of:

1. GT3 Master cylinder
2. GT3 front calipers, pads and discs
3. GT3 rear discs and pads
4. Conversion machining and special 9m Racing parts
5. Installation, bleeding and fluid

The front calipers are available in yellow or red, the original front calipers are then relocated to the rear but there would be an extra cost for painting them to match the new 6 pot front calipers.

Is is worth it?

Your choice but wow, they are awesome!!
How does this compare to a race set up or the alcon set up alot of GT3 guys seem to have gone to?

If doing the brakes and engine up to 375bhp what do you recommend to do with he suspension? I quite like the idea of a 'sleeper' style boxster with gt3 performance. I take it GT3 buckets can be put straight in too?


NineMeister

1,146 posts

260 months

Saturday 29th March 2008
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andy74b said:
How does this compare to a race set up or the alcon set up alot of GT3 guys seem to have gone to?

If doing the brakes and engine up to 375bhp what do you recommend to do with he suspension? I quite like the idea of a 'sleeper' style boxster with gt3 performance. I take it GT3 buckets can be put straight in too?
I guess the popularity of the Alcons on the GT3 is due to their performance on track, whereas what we are aiming to achieve is state-of-the-art road performance with parts that can be serviced anywhere in the country or europe. For this purpose the TT/GT3 set up is ideal and make a massive difference to the stopping power of the car. Seriously, you will not require any more brake than this!

The M030 suspension package copes quite well, however we are working with KW on a custom handling kit that is tailor made to suit the power of our conversion, so this is what we will be recommending.

I guess that the time is right to build the Boxster "RS" that I have been thinking about for a long, long time....

dark_helmet

302 posts

215 months

Saturday 29th March 2008
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I have the GT3 conversion from Ninemeister on my car. I love them, combined with the KW suspension they also fitted my car handles and stops way better than standard and just about as good as my friends GT3, remember the Boxster is 100KG or so lighter than a 911 too. I have had a few people drive it around Oulton Park and they were amazed at the difference before and after. One of these is the real GT3 owner one is a racer in the Porsche Club championship. Both of whom are way better drivers than me and we were chasing down some much more serious cars.

I am just working with Colin now to look at more power for the car, but to be honest with the handling and braking speeds, my average lap times have significantly decreased (combination of handling/brakes and improved confidence they give)




These pics were taken at the TIPEC rolling road day in December. There are more pics on http://www.nooneonline.co.uk of my car with the brakes and suspension. If any of you are in the North West you are welcome to take a look, email me at dave@noo......... replace dots with the rest of the web address. I should be at Oulton on 22/4 with MSV, although I have not booked it yet due to some work commitments I am trying to move. 75% chance of me being there.

Cheers
Dave

Edited by dark_helmet on Saturday 29th March 07:56


Edited by dark_helmet on Saturday 29th March 08:01

andy74b

832 posts

229 months

Saturday 29th March 2008
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NineMeister said:
andy74b said:
How does this compare to a race set up or the alcon set up alot of GT3 guys seem to have gone to?

If doing the brakes and engine up to 375bhp what do you recommend to do with he suspension? I quite like the idea of a 'sleeper' style boxster with gt3 performance. I take it GT3 buckets can be put straight in too?
I guess the popularity of the Alcons on the GT3 is due to their performance on track, whereas what we are aiming to achieve is state-of-the-art road performance with parts that can be serviced anywhere in the country or europe. For this purpose the TT/GT3 set up is ideal and make a massive difference to the stopping power of the car. Seriously, you will not require any more brake than this!

The M030 suspension package copes quite well, however we are working with KW on a custom handling kit that is tailor made to suit the power of our conversion, so this is what we will be recommending.

I guess that the time is right to build the Boxster "RS" that I have been thinking about for a long, long time....
I get my boxster in few weeks (3.2S 2000X). Would be interested in trying to create that boxster RS that porsche never made. Any chance of a deal for the full conversion as a develpment/test car??

Can you get a LSD for it aswell?


schmalex

13,616 posts

208 months

Saturday 29th March 2008
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NineMeister said:
Oops, what have I started now??

In no particular order:

Unfortunately Paul I don't know Rob or any of the Wolves squad, although I have met the manager Paul Cullen a couple of times. Next time you see him, tell him that if any of the lads are interested in fast cars to drop in and see us anytime, we are only at the back of Speedkarting.

The brakes are not exxential, but they are recommended. I'll have to get a price for the package, but what I can tell you is that as far as I know we are the only company to have worked out how to bolt the 996TT/GT3 brakes onto the back end of the S chassis.

After getting to grips with the ignition system and finding the right plugs to use, the prototype kit has just pulled a run of over 400Nm and 375hp on our dyno this morning, so even though we will probably turn the boost down a little, 350hp will be a given for the production kit.

As with any upgrade of this type, we cannot warranty the engine inless we have built it ourselves. Given the problems associated with the Boxster and 996 lumps the worst case scenario is that you will split a liner, so if this happens we already have a block repair and re-inforcement programme which would be a permanent repair that we could warranty.

There is no info on our website as the work is currently being done on a customer's car in private, however once it is ready you should hear about it pretty quickly as there are 3 magazines gagging to feature it, besides which I will probably post it here first.
bks - that sounds the nuts. I wish I hadn't sold the Boxster 8 weeks ago now frown furious

NineMeister

1,146 posts

260 months

Sunday 30th March 2008
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andy74b said:
I get my boxster in few weeks (3.2S 2000X). Would be interested in trying to create that boxster RS that porsche never made. Any chance of a deal for the full conversion as a develpment/test car??

Can you get a LSD for it as well?
We are having a lot of success with our new G50 carbon plate diff, as soon as the development work is finished we will be extending the range to include the Boxster and Cayman (which I believe are slightly different to each other).

A kind customer (cheers Tony) has already given us a car to fully develop the supercharger conversion, the brakes are now a done deal and the suspension is pretty much nailed. However me and Marc are always willing to help out with interesting projects, especially if we can do everything in one hit. Why not just come and talk to us when you get the car.