Triumph TR is back.....

[ProPlus]

Well what do you think?

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/autoexpressnews/...

Front nice like the old one, back is not so nice...

And the company bringing back the brand..... BMW!!!

[Plotloss]

If the finished article looks like the AutoExpress mockup I'd have one in a heartbeat.

Thats fab looking.

[Fume Troll]

Rather good!

Cheers,

FT.

[mat205125]

It will never ever happen.

[Guzzi Steve]

If they bring back the GT6.I'd have one .
Can't imagine a German company building Spitfires though?

[Chris71]

ProPlus said:

Well what do you think?

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/autoexpressnews/...

Front nice like the old one, back is not so nice...

And the company bringing back the brand..... BMW!!!

I think completely the opposite The front looks like a Diahatsu Copen, the rear looks a little bit Trident Iceni or Jag F-type concept.....

Will everyone stop doing retro?

There is a huge list of cars that look like cheap kit car body conversions of the original, some of them are actually quite good mechanically, but they look like a picture of the original drawn by a child. Off the top of my head,

Fiat 500
Mini
Beetle
Fiat Panda (sort of.....)
Ford Mustang
Dodge Charger
Ford GT
'Shelby' Cobra concept

Whereas you get some cars like the Alfa 8C competizione and to a lesser extent the original MX5 which are clearly inspired by cars of that era, but have enough of their own identity to work. The reason cars like the mini and GT40 became icons is because they were originals - they brought something new and exciting to the car industry they didn't just ape the iconic cars of 30 years before hand. Can you immagine jaguar releasing an open wheeled SS100 in the 60's? Or Ford a model T? They'd have been laughed at....

[Esprit]

Question: Why does the car/article etc have a Triumph Motorcycles Logo on it? The two companies haven't had anything to do with eachother since the 1920s/1930s?

Personally I think it's a bit uber-retro... some work modernising it a bit more, and it could work superbly.... based on a muscly Z4 platform with the engine tuned for more torque... it could just work.

[bob1179]

Won't this car compete directly with the Z4? Which would be ironic I suppose as when Triumph was part of BL they were making many cars that competed against each other within the company, ie. The Triumph 2000 and Rover 2000. All this in fighting of course helped hasten the end of the BL empire...

It will be interesting to see if BMW take this route and produce a car like this. I wont be holding my breath though.

[Twincam16]

I can see the re-launch of Triumph as a potential new market for BMW, as simplified, cheaper versions of BMWs aimed at, say, the VW/Ford market.

You could use the basis of so many BMWs to bring back so many Triumphs (which is where BMW got most of their range ideas from anyway).

1-Series = 1500/Acclaim
3-series = Dolomite
Z4 4cyl = Spitfire
Z4 Coupe = GT6
Z4M = TR(9?)
5-Series = 2000/2.5PI
6-Series = Stag

You could even use the 'Sprint' tag in place of the 'M' division.

Obviously, BMW still sit above Triumph with the 7-Series and X5, but if they made the Triumph range simpler mechanically, cheaper and more traditional to look at, they could pursue hi-tech with their BMW range without alienating the buyers they lost with the Bangle redesigns.

I hope this isn't just editorial speculation running wild again.

[AndyBe]

Chris71 said:

ProPlus said:

Well what do you think?

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/autoexpressnews/...

Front nice like the old one, back is not so nice...

And the company bringing back the brand..... BMW!!!

I think completely the opposite The front looks like a Diahatsu Copen, the rear looks a little bit Trident Iceni or Jag F-type concept.....

Will everyone stop doing retro?

There is a huge list of cars that look like cheap kit car body conversions of the original, some of them are actually quite good mechanically, but they look like a picture of the original drawn by a child. Off the top of my head,

Fiat 500
Mini
Beetle
Fiat Panda (sort of.....)
Ford Mustang
Dodge Charger
Ford GT
'Shelby' Cobra concept

Whereas you get some cars like the Alfa 8C competizione and to a lesser extent the original MX5 which are clearly inspired by cars of that era, but have enough of their own identity to work. The reason cars like the mini and GT40 became icons is because they were originals - they brought something new and exciting to the car industry they didn't just ape the iconic cars of 30 years before hand. Can you immagine jaguar releasing an open wheeled SS100 in the 60's? Or Ford a model T? They'd have been laughed at....

I'm with Chris71 - I think it's Fugly.

(Oh and to be fair to the Mustang - it's been in constant production since it was introduced, in various guises, and many of the models have had some sort of 'throwback' to the original).

[jagdpanther]

Its looks crap

The TR should be left as a popular classic

[Guzzi Steve]

[quote=Esprit]Question: Why does the car/article etc have a Triumph Motorcycles Logo on it? The two companies haven't had anything to do with eachother since the 1920s/1930s?

Probably a Photo shop job,by someone who knows no better.Don't know what John Bloor,would make of it though?
If they make the Triumph name into the same Pastiche.That they turned the Mini into.Then the Triumph car name is best left a memory.

[L100NYY]

Interesting idea to bring back the TR brand,

although please ignore the pics as they are purely Autocars renderings rather than anything official!

Edited by L100NYY on Thursday 11th October 11:07

[Esprit]

This ain't the first time "scoops" have revealed the revival of the TR marque by BMW.

[Gruppe1875]

i like it!

[Fetchez la vache]

A number of things..
a) To me it reads as though it's a photoshop by someone connected to autoexpress as to what it might look like
b) "the board of management at the blue propellor" I always thought it was a (white) propellor on a blue sky? Typical AutoExpress cock up
c) I imagine this would be basedon the mini chassis, as they were looking to share that platform with vulva originally. BMW want to use the mini chassis more to make it more cost effective.

[loose cannon]

they wouldnt get a penny of my money

[Mr MoJo]

Love the look of the back end, not so sure on the front styling though. Would like to see it happen but I'll believe it only when it actually becomes reality.

[andy400]

I don't get this 'bringing back the brand' malarkey. If BMW are going to make it, then surely it's a BMW? The Mini is just a small BMW. A* for successful, albeit cynical, marketing ploys though!

Pearls on swine....

[Road_Terrorist]

Well if they make it into something like a cheaper, simpler Wiessman they might be onto something.