335d living with an M3
335d living with an M3
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eowen

16,699 posts

295 months

Monday 4th February 2008
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I did of course mean "extremely" :-) typing issues today!

If I didnt pay for my own fuel, then a 335i would probably be my choice - mainly as ideally I'd prefer to change gear myself... Without starting another argument 50k+ for a 3 series (E92 M3), however competent, is mental...

dxb335d

2,905 posts

225 months

Monday 4th February 2008
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m12_nathan said:
dxb335d said:
Your crazy then.

My friend (E46 M3) and I (stock 335d). Side by side on an Autobahn, 40mpg-160mph. The gap remains constant.

After a re-map its game over for the M3
Arrrrghhhhh.

Please lookup "you're" and "your", followed by "there", "their" and "they're".

Thanks.

PS, what is the 0-100 time of the stock 335d? Slower than the M3 - ergo it is not as fast in a straight line.

PPS. 335i is faster anyway.
faster my arse. Im in E92 circles and regulary meet with other owners. Once again im afraid in gear the performance is identical.

From a standing start the 335i is quicker tho.

People cant stand the thought of a diesel being fast these days can they.

Edited by dxb335d on Monday 4th February 14:02

m12_nathan

5,138 posts

289 months

Monday 4th February 2008
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dxb335d said:

faster my arse.

From a standing start the 335i is quicker.
I am confused by it being both quicker and not faster at the same time.

dxb335d

2,905 posts

225 months

Monday 4th February 2008
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Standing start it gets a jump. especially the manual.

Rolling start the acceleration is similar.

AlexE46

20,579 posts

225 months

Monday 4th February 2008
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dxb335d said:
Standing start it gets a jump. especially the manual.

Rolling start the acceleration is similar.
So its faster then is what you're saying?

I'm confused.

dxb335d

2,905 posts

225 months

Monday 4th February 2008
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AlexE46 said:
dxb335d said:
Standing start it gets a jump. especially the manual.

Rolling start the acceleration is similar.
So its faster then is what you're saying?

I'm confused.
i cant be arsed mate.

Vee

3,109 posts

264 months

Monday 4th February 2008
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dxb335d said:
Standing start it gets a jump. especially the manual.

Rolling start the acceleration is similar.
Similar meaning slower, because if it was faster you wouldn;t used similar ?
So, its slower from a standing start and also slower on a rolling start.

How exactly is it faster then ?

Out of interest, what is the tyre wear like given all the torque going through the rear wheels ?

Edited by Vee on Monday 4th February 14:34

AlexE46

20,579 posts

225 months

Monday 4th February 2008
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dxb335d said:
Your crazy then.

My friend (E46 M3) and I (stock 335d). Side by side on an Autobahn, 40mpg-160mph. The gap remains constant.

After a re-map its game over for the M3
I also doubt they were doing 40mpg @ 160mph... and if you were both doing 160mph on the autobahn, does it surprise you that the gap stayed constant scratchchin

dxb335d

2,905 posts

225 months

Monday 4th February 2008
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i meant rolling 40mph-160mph nothing to do with fuel consumption sorry.

What it is from a standing start the 335d has short first gear is is not as quick standing start.

from a rolling start say 70mph, a 335i/335d/E46 M3 accelerate the same. This is what i have found. There will always be non believers. Most M3 boys wont have it that the 335i is as quick as them let alone the 335d. But its life and cars evolve and become faster, whether it be a diesel or petrol.


Donut

4,521 posts

281 months

Monday 4th February 2008
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dxb335d said:
m12_nathan said:
dxb335d said:
Your crazy then.

My friend (E46 M3) and I (stock 335d). Side by side on an Autobahn, 40mpg-160mph. The gap remains constant.

After a re-map its game over for the M3
Arrrrghhhhh.

Please lookup "you're" and "your", followed by "there", "their" and "they're".

Thanks.

PS, what is the 0-100 time of the stock 335d? Slower than the M3 - ergo it is not as fast in a straight line.

PPS. 335i is faster anyway.
faster my arse. Im in E92 circles and regulary meet with other owners. Once again im afraid in gear the performance is identical.

From a standing start the 335i is quicker tho.

People cant stand the thought of a diesel being fast these days can they.

Edited by dxb335d on Monday 4th February 14:02
Do you have a funny hand shake to let people know?

I agree with you that the 335d is a bloody quick car but it doesn't have M3 performance....

I sat on the rear of an S5 the other night for the lenght of my trip down the M6 and he was going some! - But it is still a much quicker car than a 320d!

When using an M5(E60) I had an 330i give me a run for its money, I couldn't be arsed so I'm sure he posted somewhere that a 330i is faster than an M5 and good luck to him!!

The biggest smile per miles BMW is the 135i Coupe, Now that is Brilliant yes

dxb335d

2,905 posts

225 months

Monday 4th February 2008
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you doughnut, im not talking of random cars. im talking friends cars. I KNOW THEY were flat out etc.

thanks.

Donut

4,521 posts

281 months

Monday 4th February 2008
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dxb335d said:
you doughnut, im not talking of random cars. im talking friends cars. I KNOW THEY were flat out etc.

thanks.
No worries...

I drive all types/versions/models of BMW's everyday and I know the point you are trying to make...

But it isn't true, may feel it at times in 'real world driving' but they are not!

Although I think against an E46 M3 it would be marginal.

edb49

Original Poster:

1,652 posts

235 months

Monday 4th February 2008
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dxb335d; can I humbly suggest you have got rose-tinted spectacles on, being that you own a 335d? I've got a 335d coming so have got no reason to put them down.

Everyone on here seems to agree the E46 M3 is faster. Perhaps we're all wrong and you're right?

dxb335d

2,905 posts

225 months

Monday 4th February 2008
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Maybe ED. who knows.

Ill see how i get on at Santa Pod when i next go.

[TW]Fox

13,575 posts

276 months

Monday 4th February 2008
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Why are diesel owners always on a crusade to convince us that their cars are great? We know the BMW diesels are brilliant but it wears a bit thin after a while.

Had a little arguement with a mate today infact, who swore blind the 330i (231bhp) was nowhere near as good as his 330d (184bhp) performance wise.

Donut

4,521 posts

281 months

Monday 4th February 2008
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[TW]Fox said:
Why are diesel owners always on a crusade to convince us that their cars are great? We know the BMW diesels are brilliant but it wears a bit thin after a while.

Had a little arguement with a mate today infact, who swore blind the 330i (231bhp) was nowhere near as good as his 330d (184bhp) performance wise.
The mid range torque is why. Gives a greater feeling of acceleration.

dibbly_dobbler

11,496 posts

227 months

Monday 4th February 2008
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Donut said:
[TW]Fox said:
Why are diesel owners always on a crusade to convince us that their cars are great? We know the BMW diesels are brilliant but it wears a bit thin after a while.

Had a little arguement with a mate today infact, who swore blind the 330i (231bhp) was nowhere near as good as his 330d (184bhp) performance wise.
The mid range torque is why. Gives a greater feeling of acceleration.
Agree with this. Cracking thread by the way and I commend young Carlos for his single-handed defence in the face of overwhelming opposition ! My tuppence worth of (uninformed) opinion is that I could easily believe that 40 - 100 (or whatever) the 335d would stay with the M3 but from rest the M3 would be quicker. That's not too controversial is it ?!

eowen

16,699 posts

295 months

Monday 4th February 2008
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335d nearly as quick as an RS4 - discuss! LOL.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZjuPH_clNM


CraigW

12,248 posts

312 months

Monday 4th February 2008
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[TW]Fox said:
Why are diesel owners always on a crusade to convince us that their cars are great? We know the BMW diesels are brilliant but it wears a bit thin after a while.

Had a little arguement with a mate today infact, who swore blind the 330i (231bhp) was nowhere near as good as his 330d (184bhp) performance wise.
I think you'd be surprised by the results though, bhp is one thing, torque is another

Hammerhead

2,709 posts

284 months

Monday 4th February 2008
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Reading this thread (in parts) has made me wonder if someone's not seen their weiner recently?



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