Sickness policy... anything I can do...
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Ok... company changed the sickness policy at the start of last year... it's now "three strikes and your out" (or at least no more pay).
As a result, people are turning up at work with all sorts of things... I have just contracted a sore throat, and it may be connected to the tonsolitis that the guy who sits next to me all week has had.
I will obviously come in as I need to, but my issue is my partner, she has type 2 diabetes and anything she gets lingers on for weeks / months... I have an awful feeling that I will be taking her a present home this week... ( I had my tonsils out when I was 10, so doubt I will end up with anything TOO serious)
Is there anything I can do?
As a result, people are turning up at work with all sorts of things... I have just contracted a sore throat, and it may be connected to the tonsolitis that the guy who sits next to me all week has had.
I will obviously come in as I need to, but my issue is my partner, she has type 2 diabetes and anything she gets lingers on for weeks / months... I have an awful feeling that I will be taking her a present home this week... ( I had my tonsils out when I was 10, so doubt I will end up with anything TOO serious)
Is there anything I can do?
Or to put it another way- encourages you to man up and stop taking the piss.
If you have a cold- how on earth does that stop you working?
PLus loads of these type of things are not transmitable once the symptoms are there anyway.
OP- difficult situation your OH is in. 3 days does seem a little harsh to me, but then my other point is still valid. There are very few illnesses that are bad enough that you can't carry out your basic duties thus why should you sit at home watching TV?
If you have a cold- how on earth does that stop you working?
PLus loads of these type of things are not transmitable once the symptoms are there anyway.
OP- difficult situation your OH is in. 3 days does seem a little harsh to me, but then my other point is still valid. There are very few illnesses that are bad enough that you can't carry out your basic duties thus why should you sit at home watching TV?
blindswelledrat said:
Or to put it another way- encourages you to man up and stop taking the piss.
If you have a cold- how on earth does that stop you working?
PLus loads of these type of things are not transmitable once the symptoms are there anyway.
OP- difficult situation your OH is in. 3 days does seem a little harsh to me, but then my other point is still valid. There are very few illnesses that are bad enough that you can't carry out your basic duties thus why should you sit at home watching TV?
We have a nice WFH policy if you are coughing and spluttering... so that even contractors can log in from home and dont spread the sickness, just a shame the guy near me doesnt and he has infected most of the people round him now... If you have a cold- how on earth does that stop you working?
PLus loads of these type of things are not transmitable once the symptoms are there anyway.
OP- difficult situation your OH is in. 3 days does seem a little harsh to me, but then my other point is still valid. There are very few illnesses that are bad enough that you can't carry out your basic duties thus why should you sit at home watching TV?
it's not actually three days, it's three instances, so for example, you could be off for a week in Jan, 2 week in March, a single day in May, and you are all used up..
I had a case earlier in they year when I was off on Tuesday, came back on Wednesday ( we were very stretched and I was helping out the team and was not contagious) was off Thurday as I came back too early, and they were not going to pay me for the Thursday (although they DID back down on this one)
I had a case earlier in they year when I was off on Tuesday, came back on Wednesday ( we were very stretched and I was helping out the team and was not contagious) was off Thurday as I came back too early, and they were not going to pay me for the Thursday (although they DID back down on this one)
thatone1967 said:
it's not actually three days, it's three instances, so for example, you could be off for a week in Jan, 2 week in March, a single day in May, and you are all used up..
I had a case earlier in they year when I was off on Tuesday, came back on Wednesday ( we were very stretched and I was helping out the team and was not contagious) was off Thurday as I came back too early, and they were not going to pay me for the Thursday (although they DID back down on this one)
I had a case earlier in they year when I was off on Tuesday, came back on Wednesday ( we were very stretched and I was helping out the team and was not contagious) was off Thurday as I came back too early, and they were not going to pay me for the Thursday (although they DID back down on this one)
Infuriating.I think 3 instances is perfectly reasonable- although your example is pretty f
king mean of them.I don't believe that anyone is genuinely so so ill that they cannot work more than 3 times per year. It just cuts out the piss-taking hangover days.
whats annoying is that the year runs from Jan - December... when are most people ill... towards the end of the year... so come December, someone is ill, they cannot take time off, come to work with the lurgy, pass it freely around and we all end up with it... surely June - May would be better....
thatone1967 said:
( I had my tonsils out when I was 10, so doubt I will end up with anything TOO serious)
Is there anything I can do?
You won't get tonsillitis -but you can get an infection where they used to be - I got it with a bad cold a few years ago , and it spread into my ear/nose system .Nasty .Took me a month to recover ,but then I've got type 2 as well . Is there anything I can do?
isn't the national average 7 days sick a year. no including long term sick?
people in the 50+ generation at my work usually seem to be proud of going for years at a time between sick days.
under this age bracket, and people seem to take time off work if they stayed up a little late. I can see why employers would implement a 3 time policy. makes sense to me. If you are liable to have more sic days than this, then find an employer who don't have a policy like this. With mine, you can have about 2 month off a year before they start complaining too much. unfortunately people do take the P!ss hough
people in the 50+ generation at my work usually seem to be proud of going for years at a time between sick days.
under this age bracket, and people seem to take time off work if they stayed up a little late. I can see why employers would implement a 3 time policy. makes sense to me. If you are liable to have more sic days than this, then find an employer who don't have a policy like this. With mine, you can have about 2 month off a year before they start complaining too much. unfortunately people do take the P!ss hough
there is nothing more annoying, than people coming into work sick, I send my guys home if they come in sick if like it or not... nothing worse than someone trying to be a hero, coughing and spluttering over everyone else making half my team sick..Not only that, it could also cause an accident.
Its just another common annoying British attribute.
Its just another common annoying British attribute.
Working for the NHS has its advantages 
You are allowed three periods of sickness per year before you get called in for a talk regardless of length of sickness (all you get is a talk, you don't lose any pay for subsequent sickness periods).
NHS said:
13. SICK PAY
• during the first year of service - one month’s full pay and two months’ half pay;
• during the second year of service - two months’ full pay half pay;
• during the third year of service – four months’ full pay and four months’ half pay;
• during the fourth and fifth years of service – five months’ full pay and five months’ half pay;
• after completing five years of service – six months’ full pay and six months’ half pay.
http://www.unison.org.uk/acrobat/B1794.pdf• during the first year of service - one month’s full pay and two months’ half pay;
• during the second year of service - two months’ full pay half pay;
• during the third year of service – four months’ full pay and four months’ half pay;
• during the fourth and fifth years of service – five months’ full pay and five months’ half pay;
• after completing five years of service – six months’ full pay and six months’ half pay.
You are allowed three periods of sickness per year before you get called in for a talk regardless of length of sickness (all you get is a talk, you don't lose any pay for subsequent sickness periods).
Edited by JumboBeef on Wednesday 1st December 15:43
fesuvious said:
Pull the other one. Full reform of practices like these. Would save god knows how much
There was a reform in C2006, Agenda for Change:http://www.nhsemployers.org/PayAndContracts/Agenda...
I'm not going to knock it. (You can also claim back holiday time off if you are sick during that holiday period).
JumboBeef said:
Working for the NHS has its advantages
You are allowed three periods of sickness per year before you get called in for a talk regardless of length of sickness (all you get is a talk, you don't lose any pay for subsequent sickness periods)
Isn't that because you are more likely to catch something though?NHS said:
13. SICK PAY
• during the first year of service - one month’s full pay and two months’ half pay;
• during the second year of service - two months’ full pay half pay;
• during the third year of service – four months’ full pay and four months’ half pay;
• during the fourth and fifth years of service – five months’ full pay and five months’ half pay;
• after completing five years of service – six months’ full pay and six months’ half pay.
http://www.unison.org.uk/acrobat/B1794.pdf• during the first year of service - one month’s full pay and two months’ half pay;
• during the second year of service - two months’ full pay half pay;
• during the third year of service – four months’ full pay and four months’ half pay;
• during the fourth and fifth years of service – five months’ full pay and five months’ half pay;
• after completing five years of service – six months’ full pay and six months’ half pay.
You are allowed three periods of sickness per year before you get called in for a talk regardless of length of sickness (all you get is a talk, you don't lose any pay for subsequent sickness periods)
Edited by JumboBeef on Wednesday 1st December 15:43
And yes I do understand how many people in the Nhs are nowhere near patients
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