Could the UK become the leader of the "new EU
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It seems clear that the EU will fragment into factions, with Euro members having to pursue further integration (17 members) and who knows what for the other 10 members.
In a couple of years, in my opinion, the contradictions in the Euro will rip it apart. In the meantime, I'm not sure what will happen to the EU, or what the relationship will be like for countries like the UK who will (as part of the 10) be excluded from the discussions, but still part of an ever centralising EU.
What's going to happen over the next couple of years? Will there be a non-Euro pro free trade "club" appear (all the wise nations who didn't join the Euro
) who might start an "alternative EU"?
Could this be the moment for the UK to lead a pro-nation, pro trade "EU" without the political and economic integration that has proven to be so unsucuessful and unpopular?
In a couple of years, in my opinion, the contradictions in the Euro will rip it apart. In the meantime, I'm not sure what will happen to the EU, or what the relationship will be like for countries like the UK who will (as part of the 10) be excluded from the discussions, but still part of an ever centralising EU.
What's going to happen over the next couple of years? Will there be a non-Euro pro free trade "club" appear (all the wise nations who didn't join the Euro
) who might start an "alternative EU"?Could this be the moment for the UK to lead a pro-nation, pro trade "EU" without the political and economic integration that has proven to be so unsucuessful and unpopular?
0a said:
It seems clear that the EU will fragment into factions, with Euro members having to pursue further integration (17 members) and who knows what for the other 10 members.
In a couple of years, in my opinion, the contradictions in the Euro will rip it apart. In the meantime, I'm not sure what will happen to the EU, or what the relationship will be like for countries like the UK who will (as part of the 10) be excluded from the discussions, but still part of an ever centralising EU.
What's going to happen over the next couple of years? Will there be a non-Euro pro free trade "club" appear (all the wise nations who didn't join the Euro ) who might start an "alternative EU"?
Could this be the moment for the UK to lead a pro-nation, pro trade "EU" without the political and economic integration that has proven to be so unsucuessful and unpopular?
Why use the phrase "new EU"?In a couple of years, in my opinion, the contradictions in the Euro will rip it apart. In the meantime, I'm not sure what will happen to the EU, or what the relationship will be like for countries like the UK who will (as part of the 10) be excluded from the discussions, but still part of an ever centralising EU.
What's going to happen over the next couple of years? Will there be a non-Euro pro free trade "club" appear (all the wise nations who didn't join the Euro
) who might start an "alternative EU"?Could this be the moment for the UK to lead a pro-nation, pro trade "EU" without the political and economic integration that has proven to be so unsucuessful and unpopular?
That would be backward looking when concern should be the future and how the Western Nations will meet the challenges of the rapidly "emerging" Economies.
"EU" is based upon a past model which, in reality, is dead.
Vested interests are attempting to breathe life into the corpse.
WhoseGeneration said:
Why use the phrase "new EU"?
That would be backward looking when concern should be the future and how the Western Nations will meet the challenges of the rapidly "emerging" Economies.
"EU" is based upon a past model which, in reality, is dead.
Vested interests are attempting to breathe life into the corpse.
Because the "audience" of the EU is understood in terms of countries. In my opinion the transnational concept of a "European union" isn't a bad one, just that the current form isn't something I can forgive. UK led alternative trade area, here we come.That would be backward looking when concern should be the future and how the Western Nations will meet the challenges of the rapidly "emerging" Economies.
"EU" is based upon a past model which, in reality, is dead.
Vested interests are attempting to breathe life into the corpse.
0a said:
Because the "audience" of the EU is understood in terms of countries. In my opinion the transnational concept of a "European union" isn't a bad one, just that the current form isn't something I can forgive. UK led alternative trade area, here we come.
Trade is completely different to Union.Trade is letting populations interact and decide, Union is letting Politicians interact and decide.
We could have global trade without any political interference.
Problem is, we have politicians.
0a said:
Because the "audience" of the EU is understood in terms of countries. In my opinion the transnational concept of a "European union" isn't a bad one, just that the current form isn't something I can forgive. UK led alternative trade area, here we come.
If you want a UK led alternative, then what could be better than a strenghtened Commonwealth.The Commonwealth is rich in the resources that will become increasingly important in the future - Copper, Diamonds, Oil, Uranium, etc.
We get cheap milk from Europe - and that has closed down hundreds of UK dairy farms.
I really struggle to see how anyone with half a brain can see any benefit from our continued membership of an institution that cannot get its accounts passed by any firm of auditors.
Don
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