DB4GT Zagato !! Well not quite.
Discussion
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Aston-Martin-Other-DB4GT-Z...
Would you own it if you could afford it ?
Fancy having to say its a replica or a recreation.
Would you own it if you could afford it ?
Fancy having to say its a replica or a recreation.
ks about the genuine chassis plates etc. It's got a bloody DB7 lump in the front! Laughable. Obviously not the norm fibre glass rubbish They have obviously invested large and it looks well built but at the end of the day it is a replica ! Who the hell would pay that much ?? I don't hate all replicas there are some very nice AC Cobra ones etc just the Ferrari Italia built on a MR2 lash up type ones .....
This is the bit that made me crease up 
SOMEONE FROM HALFWAY AROUND THE WORLD WAS CLAIMING TO HAVE ANOTHER ASTON WITH OUR SAME V.I.N PLATE.
SINCE THAT TIME WE HAVE LEARNED THAT RECORD KEEPING IN THOSE EARLY DAYS AT ASTON WAS NOT EFFICIENT AND DUPLICATE V.I.N. PLATES WERE NOT UNHEARD OF. WE BELIEVE THIS CAR TO BE THE GENUINE ARTICLE.
Geniune what?
SOMEONE FROM HALFWAY AROUND THE WORLD WAS CLAIMING TO HAVE ANOTHER ASTON WITH OUR SAME V.I.N PLATE.
SINCE THAT TIME WE HAVE LEARNED THAT RECORD KEEPING IN THOSE EARLY DAYS AT ASTON WAS NOT EFFICIENT AND DUPLICATE V.I.N. PLATES WERE NOT UNHEARD OF. WE BELIEVE THIS CAR TO BE THE GENUINE ARTICLE.
Geniune what?
BravoV8V said:
$2.4m???? Are they 'aving a giraffe?
They certainly shouldn't be calling it a DB4. Or a Zagato. It's got nothing of either. At best, it's a franken-7. And a pretty icky one at that.
That sort of money would get you a real DB4GTZ. Or one of the continuation ones, at least.
The paperwork shows a db4gt chassis number, but it is a DB7 engine. If it is a Gt chassis, then put a twin plug Gt engine in and itll probably make that money... They certainly shouldn't be calling it a DB4. Or a Zagato. It's got nothing of either. At best, it's a franken-7. And a pretty icky one at that.
That sort of money would get you a real DB4GTZ. Or one of the continuation ones, at least.
Edited to add the last images show it as a DB7 chassis. So what us the former paperwork for??
RichB said:
This is the bit that made me crease up
SOMEONE FROM HALFWAY AROUND THE WORLD WAS CLAIMING TO HAVE ANOTHER ASTON WITH OUR SAME V.I.N PLATE.
SINCE THAT TIME WE HAVE LEARNED THAT RECORD KEEPING IN THOSE EARLY DAYS AT ASTON WAS NOT EFFICIENT AND DUPLICATE V.I.N. PLATES WERE NOT UNHEARD OF. WE BELIEVE THIS CAR TO BE THE GENUINE ARTICLE.
Geniune what?
I think that now in this day and age duplicate vin numbers and even sill plate numbering mix ups would be unheard of SOMEONE FROM HALFWAY AROUND THE WORLD WAS CLAIMING TO HAVE ANOTHER ASTON WITH OUR SAME V.I.N PLATE.
SINCE THAT TIME WE HAVE LEARNED THAT RECORD KEEPING IN THOSE EARLY DAYS AT ASTON WAS NOT EFFICIENT AND DUPLICATE V.I.N. PLATES WERE NOT UNHEARD OF. WE BELIEVE THIS CAR TO BE THE GENUINE ARTICLE.
Geniune what?
williamp said:
The paperwork shows a db4gt chassis number, but it is a DB7 engine. If it is a Gt chassis, then put a twin plug Gt engine in and itll probably make that money...
Edited to add the last images show it as a DB7 chassis. So what us the former paperwork for??
Looks like, once upon a time, there was a rusty DB4 chassis from which they may have a plate. The rest is fabricated. Edited to add the last images show it as a DB7 chassis. So what us the former paperwork for??
Some very colourful claims made in the listing. For a start it is on a DBS chassis not a DB4. At the end of the day it is a rebodied DBS with a DB7 engine.
The title they had and the chassis plate came from a well known Aston rebuilder who created a replica Project 214 claiming he found its original remains and used those in the build. Needless to say this turned out to be somewhat fraudulent.
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=1&a...
"When the price of classic cars went berserk in the eighties, someone announced that they had found the remains of Project 214 (0195) in a scrap yard in Germany and had commissioned a rebuild. Alarm bells rang at the AMOC. Both Project 214 cars were racing at the Nurburgring in 1964 when 0195 crashed and the driver, Brian Hetreed, was killed.
At the next AGM of the AMOC, the President of the club, Viscount Downe, addressed the problem of this particular car's recreation, in particular the claim that it used genuine parts from the original car. Lord Downe had been at the Nurburgring supporting the team in 1964 where several works Astons, including the Project cars, were being raced. He told the meeting that the crashed car had not been scrapped in Germany at all. Its remains were put on to the car transporters and unfortunately took up all the room. This meant that the race cars had to be driven home. They set off in convoy and it wasn't until they reached the border that they realised they had a problem. Although the cars were quite capable of being driven on the road, they weren't registered for the road and were driven on trade plates with the trade plate's number being painted on the bodywork. The team had never envisaged all the cars being driven on the road together and here they were approaching the border with several cars sharing the same registration number.
Whether the authorities didn't notice or had been invited to turn a blind eye to aid a team in distress Lord Downe was unable to say, but he recalled no problems whatever crossing several borders between the circuit and Calais.
After discussions with Brian Hetreed's widow the remains of the car with the exception of the engine were cut up and scrapped. Scrapped in England. There was no chance whatsoever of any of the parts claimed to have been discovered in a scrapyard in Germany being genuine.
The recreated car is now referred to a replica."
The title they had and the chassis plate came from a well known Aston rebuilder who created a replica Project 214 claiming he found its original remains and used those in the build. Needless to say this turned out to be somewhat fraudulent.
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=1&a...
"When the price of classic cars went berserk in the eighties, someone announced that they had found the remains of Project 214 (0195) in a scrap yard in Germany and had commissioned a rebuild. Alarm bells rang at the AMOC. Both Project 214 cars were racing at the Nurburgring in 1964 when 0195 crashed and the driver, Brian Hetreed, was killed.
At the next AGM of the AMOC, the President of the club, Viscount Downe, addressed the problem of this particular car's recreation, in particular the claim that it used genuine parts from the original car. Lord Downe had been at the Nurburgring supporting the team in 1964 where several works Astons, including the Project cars, were being raced. He told the meeting that the crashed car had not been scrapped in Germany at all. Its remains were put on to the car transporters and unfortunately took up all the room. This meant that the race cars had to be driven home. They set off in convoy and it wasn't until they reached the border that they realised they had a problem. Although the cars were quite capable of being driven on the road, they weren't registered for the road and were driven on trade plates with the trade plate's number being painted on the bodywork. The team had never envisaged all the cars being driven on the road together and here they were approaching the border with several cars sharing the same registration number.
Whether the authorities didn't notice or had been invited to turn a blind eye to aid a team in distress Lord Downe was unable to say, but he recalled no problems whatever crossing several borders between the circuit and Calais.
After discussions with Brian Hetreed's widow the remains of the car with the exception of the engine were cut up and scrapped. Scrapped in England. There was no chance whatsoever of any of the parts claimed to have been discovered in a scrapyard in Germany being genuine.
The recreated car is now referred to a replica."
Meanwhile, over at Evanta http://www.evanta.co.uk/aston-martin-db7-conversio...
v8vantage said:
... For a start it is on a DBS chassis not a DB4. At the end of the day it is a rebodied DBS with a DB7 engine...
Being a Feltham chap I don't know my DBS chassis. So is the rusty cut up chassis the DBS one and is that what you believe to be under the rebuilt car? Incidentally do DBSs have inboard rear discs like the finished car?%20(999%20x%20666).jpg)
And there's already the Australian company who built/build a Zagato body onto a DBS chassis called the DBSZ http://www.classicdriver.com/en/car/aston-martin/d...
And their one has the classic six cylinder Tadek Marek engine in it!
The web site above suggests they'll build one for £150k but that may be a tad out of date. Either way it's not $2.5m
And their one has the classic six cylinder Tadek Marek engine in it!
The web site above suggests they'll build one for £150k but that may be a tad out of date. Either way it's not $2.5m
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