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Hi all, I've put this on the Volvo thread aswell, but it don't look like i'll get a reply. Doing this for a friend. He has an old (F) reg'ish large Volvo estate.
Not my cup of tea, but it is a nice comfy car.
Any way, he has a problem with the ignition key/lock. When you insert the key in the lock it goes in fine, turns to the first stop ok which probably lets you listen to the radio without turning the ignition on. It goes to the next stop, which turns the ignition on, but will not turn to the final third stop, which is the starter motor.
I used to cut kes for a living, and can't work out why this is happening.
Maybe an electronic blocker?
Any help as usual would be great.
Many thanks
Not my cup of tea, but it is a nice comfy car.
Any way, he has a problem with the ignition key/lock. When you insert the key in the lock it goes in fine, turns to the first stop ok which probably lets you listen to the radio without turning the ignition on. It goes to the next stop, which turns the ignition on, but will not turn to the final third stop, which is the starter motor.
I used to cut kes for a living, and can't work out why this is happening.
Maybe an electronic blocker?
Any help as usual would be great.
Many thanks
Sorry 4key, we posted at the same time.
Steering lock goes off at the 1st or 2nd stop, can't remember now, but 100% steering is OK
when the key is at 1st or 2nd position.
I will say though that when we left the car today, the central locking didn't work.
The friend got a pair of pliers and pulled up the locking button on the drivers door.
(the one that's near the glass) so might be a problem with the security/locking system
that thinks, doors won't lock/open lets shut the system down.
As I said before, don't even know if my car has a Battery, Lol.
Even though it's the same age'ish.
Steering lock goes off at the 1st or 2nd stop, can't remember now, but 100% steering is OK
when the key is at 1st or 2nd position.
I will say though that when we left the car today, the central locking didn't work.
The friend got a pair of pliers and pulled up the locking button on the drivers door.
(the one that's near the glass) so might be a problem with the security/locking system
that thinks, doors won't lock/open lets shut the system down.
As I said before, don't even know if my car has a Battery, Lol.
Even though it's the same age'ish.
Thanks Big Al.
That was my first reply on the Volvo forum.
Not that I was getting any replies there, lol.
BUT every time I hear your name, I will just think VOLVO (yes in CAPS too, lol.)
Glad you closed the right one down.
O/T now The mighty Spurs have Done Manure, at their place, can you close their thread down too.
Only joking, keep up the good work, and anymore replies on the dead Volvo,
Cheers All.
That was my first reply on the Volvo forum.
Not that I was getting any replies there, lol.
BUT every time I hear your name, I will just think VOLVO (yes in CAPS too, lol.)
Glad you closed the right one down.
O/T now The mighty Spurs have Done Manure, at their place, can you close their thread down too.
Only joking, keep up the good work, and anymore replies on the dead Volvo,
Cheers All.
johnnywgk said:
4key said:
The op's post suggests that the key wont physically turn to 3, not that the car doesnt start on that turn 
BANG ON, 4key !00% correctApart from taking stuff apart unti you find the issue, wd40 and some wiggling on the wheel/key is probably your only option. You say the door also doesnt unlock? suggest that the key is knackered then, are you sure that its the right one?
It's not his car, but his father in laws. So I got him to get the spare key, they both do the same thing.
Neal, it's not the steering lock, that's fine once you put the key in and turn it, the lock comes off and the ignition goes on.
It just won't go the extra turn to make the starter motor to turn, (as we all should know, once the starter works, it starts the engine, just let go of the key and it should return to position 2.
This will not go past position 2 to make the starter revolve to start the engine.
I can remember as a boy that an old mechanic used to put a long screwdriver on 1 wire, then another (which would start the starter motor) once started he would take the long screwdriver off, and the car would run.
Doubt if that'll work on a old (but very clued up volvo)
Cheers so far.
Neal, it's not the steering lock, that's fine once you put the key in and turn it, the lock comes off and the ignition goes on.
It just won't go the extra turn to make the starter motor to turn, (as we all should know, once the starter works, it starts the engine, just let go of the key and it should return to position 2.
This will not go past position 2 to make the starter revolve to start the engine.
I can remember as a boy that an old mechanic used to put a long screwdriver on 1 wire, then another (which would start the starter motor) once started he would take the long screwdriver off, and the car would run.
Doubt if that'll work on a old (but very clued up volvo)
Cheers so far.
Yeah, that will start it if the ignition lights come on in position 2. Take the cowling off from under the colum and the back end of the steering lock will have all of the wires soldiered to the terminals. Put the key to position 2 and then touch the *red and yellow terminals together with a long screwdriver. Lots of sparks and the car will start.
You may be able to prize the plastic switch that the wires are soldiered into from the metal barrel and use a screwdriver as a key on the side that was attached to the barrel. Never took a volvo one apart so I dont know for sure.
- may not be correct colours, just dont join the lives up with the black one
You may be able to prize the plastic switch that the wires are soldiered into from the metal barrel and use a screwdriver as a key on the side that was attached to the barrel. Never took a volvo one apart so I dont know for sure.
Edited by 4key on Monday 1st October 19:42
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If that is the case then it is a key/lock issue.
Thanks 4key, the only thing I have about that is, I spent 10 years of my life cutting keys for a well known bunch of rip-off merchants, and spent many hours/days taking locks apart to see how they work, or I could make them work. (most of my friends call me honest John)
Lol.
I have never known a key that would fit a lock, turn to position one, then turn to pos. two, but! would not turn to the next pos. It was the 3rd pos. that made me think there
might be some security/computer issues, that are far beyond my skills.
Many thanks all.
Trust me! I dunt wanna nick a Vovla thing, I'm still a baby, lol.
Love to know the answer.
If that is the case then it is a key/lock issue.
Thanks 4key, the only thing I have about that is, I spent 10 years of my life cutting keys for a well known bunch of rip-off merchants, and spent many hours/days taking locks apart to see how they work, or I could make them work. (most of my friends call me honest John)
Lol.
I have never known a key that would fit a lock, turn to position one, then turn to pos. two, but! would not turn to the next pos. It was the 3rd pos. that made me think there
might be some security/computer issues, that are far beyond my skills.
Many thanks all.
Trust me! I dunt wanna nick a Vovla thing, I'm still a baby, lol.
Love to know the answer.
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