Buying an item through a car forum
Buying an item through a car forum
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gaz1234

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5,233 posts

250 months

Saturday 9th August 2014
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Which I have done. The item is different to orignally described. Payment was made by bank transfer to avoid PayPal fees (aparantly).
Made contact with him today only to ask for serial number (assuming he is checking model out).
Generally not very contactable now by the looks of it. However during sale very responsive of course.

What can I do to resolve? I have his address. I have his account details.

Would my bank help me? Could the car form help me?

Ta

Urban Sports

11,321 posts

234 months

Saturday 9th August 2014
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Scammed.

Loudy McFatass

8,999 posts

218 months

Saturday 9th August 2014
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Urban Sports said:
Scammed.
This probably.

Was the seller a long standing member? What's his posting history like etc? Did you check?

gaz1234

Original Poster:

5,233 posts

250 months

Saturday 9th August 2014
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Yep seemed fairly legit. Couple hundred posts, same as me.
A bit random. Was selling iMac to then change it to newer model half way through post, obviously wanted more money for it.
Also listed an exhaust only to then return it foc

DonnyMac

3,634 posts

234 months

Sunday 10th August 2014
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Bank to bank transfers are as good as cash in these circumstances I'm afraid.

How long has it been since you've expected the item to be delivered?

Easy_Targa

468 posts

225 months

Sunday 10th August 2014
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Got caught as well by trusting someone on a car forum (not this one). Wary of buying spares on eBay but never had a real problem. Then someone who has the same make and model car as me offers a used part in very good condition, one tends to believe a chap who has the great good taste to drive such a great car. It transpired that the part was worse than the one I had. He did give me 30% back but when I advertised it accurately on eBay I only got pennies for it. Will ask many more questions next time.

gaz1234

Original Poster:

5,233 posts

250 months

Sunday 10th August 2014
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DonnyMac said:
Bank to bank transfers are as good as cash in these circumstances I'm afraid.

How long has it been since you've expected the item to be delivered?
sorry i received it, its say an e36 m3 but sold as e90 me, say..

Fattyfat

3,310 posts

227 months

Sunday 10th August 2014
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I've bought a couple of cars through forums over the years along with a selection of lower value spares etc.

Thankfully all involved have been spot on.

gaz1234

Original Poster:

5,233 posts

250 months

Sunday 10th August 2014
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Easy_Targa said:
Got caught as well by trusting someone on a car forum (not this one). Wary of buying spares on eBay but never had a real problem. Then someone who has the same make and model car as me offers a used part in very good condition, one tends to believe a chap who has the great good taste to drive such a great car. It transpired that the part was worse than the one I had. He did give me 30% back but when I advertised it accurately on eBay I only got pennies for it. Will ask many more questions next time.
What did you buy?

carreauchompeur

18,331 posts

235 months

Sunday 10th August 2014
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I saw that post on he other forum. Very, very bad form on his part. It seems quite unusual. Does he turn up to any meets?

gaz1234

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5,233 posts

250 months

Sunday 10th August 2014
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carreauchompeur said:
I saw that post on he other forum. Very, very bad form on his part. It seems quite unusual. Does he turn up to any meets?
see why he doesnt use ebay now then!
not sure.

rufusgti

2,573 posts

223 months

Sunday 10th August 2014
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I found an ad on PH classifieds from a chap breaking a car like mine. I purchased a part which was described as "excellent condition". It was in no form excellent, quite the opposite. I contacted him to tell him I would be returning the item to which he replied "Sorry, I don't do refunds" and thought he could leave it at that.....

No no no no no.

After a few emails trying to resolve the issue I decided to take action. I managed to track a few details down, initially through finding the same add on another forum (except funnily enough he did mention the poor quality of the part in this ad) and then using his username to go through some old posts. This lead me down various paths where info was found. His posts contained links to email auctions giving me his Ebay account. Searching his auctions I purchased his most expensive item, excellent. I can now contact him for collection from his home address and mobile number. Other forum posts lead me to find pictures of his new car so I had his registration plate. Other posts lead to a picture of the chap, having his name I could quickly search Facebook to find more info. Place of work, who his girlfriend was etc etc. Within an hour I had his name, address, email,FB, work address, mobile number, a photo of him and his partner and a reason to meet him whenever and I wanted. He was 300 miles away, although I had no intention of meeting him.

What I then did was arrange to collect the item from ebay on sat morning from his address at around 10.30am. Using google maps I was able to get an idea of the area. At 11.30 he text to ask if I was lost. I looked on the map and asked if he would mind meeting me at a service station about 20 mins from his house. Once I had confirmation he was waiting I told him I was running late. left him another half hour before telling him I had stopped on route for some food. Left him another 30 mins. He was irate by this point, ringing every 5 mins. I was 300 miles away having a BBq in the park while he was sat in a service station waiting for his £350. Fantastic. Just when I thought the silly fool wouldn't take any more giving me a 20 minute deadline I managed to keep him there a further hour, before cancelling and re arranging for the following day. I was telling him obvious total rubbish but his greed kept him there. At one point I told him i'd stopped off to see my nan!when he asked if i was a pisstaker I told him how old she was and that she wouldn't be around forever.

The following morning I couldn't be bothered anymore allthough he seemed to still want the exchange. Instead I emailed him telling him exactly who I was, the reasons for my actions and the information I had of him. I very politely told him to reconsider my refund and asked him to be a bit brighter if he intended trying to rip people off. I then offered to bring the forum in on the whole thing (fairly small forum where he seemed to spend a lot of time). He never replied but my refund was pinged back into my paypal and good feedback left on the ebay purchase.

The amount I wanted refunding was £40.

If i'm honest, it shocked me how much info I found. I'm fairly backward when it comes to computers but managed to get enough to meet him. Maybe that was luck on my part as he had it all out there. But I'm now much more careful about what info goes online.

gaz1234

Original Poster:

5,233 posts

250 months

Sunday 10th August 2014
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fantastic.
i do have his address and full name (if correct!)
his car make model...

not gone into much else yet.

Negative Creep

26,137 posts

258 months

Monday 11th August 2014
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rufusgti said:
I found an ad on PH classifieds from a chap breaking a car like mine. I purchased a part which was described as "excellent condition". It was in no form excellent, quite the opposite. I contacted him to tell him I would be returning the item to which he replied "Sorry, I don't do refunds" and thought he could leave it at that.....

No no no no no.

After a few emails trying to resolve the issue I decided to take action. I managed to track a few details down, initially through finding the same add on another forum (except funnily enough he did mention the poor quality of the part in this ad) and then using his username to go through some old posts. This lead me down various paths where info was found. His posts contained links to email auctions giving me his Ebay account. Searching his auctions I purchased his most expensive item, excellent. I can now contact him for collection from his home address and mobile number. Other forum posts lead me to find pictures of his new car so I had his registration plate. Other posts lead to a picture of the chap, having his name I could quickly search Facebook to find more info. Place of work, who his girlfriend was etc etc. Within an hour I had his name, address, email,FB, work address, mobile number, a photo of him and his partner and a reason to meet him whenever and I wanted. He was 300 miles away, although I had no intention of meeting him.

What I then did was arrange to collect the item from ebay on sat morning from his address at around 10.30am. Using google maps I was able to get an idea of the area. At 11.30 he text to ask if I was lost. I looked on the map and asked if he would mind meeting me at a service station about 20 mins from his house. Once I had confirmation he was waiting I told him I was running late. left him another half hour before telling him I had stopped on route for some food. Left him another 30 mins. He was irate by this point, ringing every 5 mins. I was 300 miles away having a BBq in the park while he was sat in a service station waiting for his £350. Fantastic. Just when I thought the silly fool wouldn't take any more giving me a 20 minute deadline I managed to keep him there a further hour, before cancelling and re arranging for the following day. I was telling him obvious total rubbish but his greed kept him there. At one point I told him i'd stopped off to see my nan!when he asked if i was a pisstaker I told him how old she was and that she wouldn't be around forever.

The following morning I couldn't be bothered anymore allthough he seemed to still want the exchange. Instead I emailed him telling him exactly who I was, the reasons for my actions and the information I had of him. I very politely told him to reconsider my refund and asked him to be a bit brighter if he intended trying to rip people off. I then offered to bring the forum in on the whole thing (fairly small forum where he seemed to spend a lot of time). He never replied but my refund was pinged back into my paypal and good feedback left on the ebay purchase.

The amount I wanted refunding was £40.

If i'm honest, it shocked me how much info I found. I'm fairly backward when it comes to computers but managed to get enough to meet him. Maybe that was luck on my part as he had it all out there. But I'm now much more careful about what info goes online.
Blimey, reminder me never to get on your bad side

scarble

5,277 posts

188 months

Monday 11th August 2014
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all sounds a bit internet tough guy to me scratchchin
are you powerfully built too?

gaz1234

Original Poster:

5,233 posts

250 months

Tuesday 12th August 2014
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Resolved

CraigyMc

18,373 posts

267 months

Tuesday 12th August 2014
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gaz1234 said:
Resolved
Cryptic.

Easy_Targa

468 posts

225 months

Tuesday 12th August 2014
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gaz1234 said:
What did you buy?
A soft top complete with frame. He checked it out to confirm that the rear window was sewn in and therefore not an original part but apparently didn't see that the stitching had come apart and that there was a small burn in the plastic screen.
Once bitten and twice shy.