Bitten By A Police Dog.

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Tannedbaldhead

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134 months

Sunday 12th May 2013
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And not just once.

As all good stories start this one goes back to "wen ah wert' lad".

As a teenager, back in 1980, my family lived back to back with a Police dog handler. We struck up a friendship with him through our GSDs sniffing one another through spaces in the fence, becoming familiar with one another and ending up going on walks together. The BiB gave us a lot of good tips on training and care and my dad and said officer spent many an hour shooting the breeze over the fence chatting mainly about dogs.

The officer noted that my brother and I were quite fearless when playing rough with our own dog and asked if we would be ok with his dog having a chew on our arms. Thus, padded up and in our own back yard, we suffered our first "attack". Thereafter we would be regularly taken to a field and used in more serious training exercises. Once known as idiots daft enough to let any police dog do it's worse a number of officers would come to our house in Police Dog Unit vans and take us away (god knows what the neighbours thought) to the fields to play real cops (with teeth)and robbers. My brother and I had a ball and the dogs got to practise with fresh meat (a problem with training a Police dog to attack is some dogs, if they attack the same person all the time, become reticent about sinking their teeth into strangers. Win win.

Alas, a senior officer put an end to our fun and games when one of the dogs bit a policeman on the bum whilst training (sounds funny but I can assure you it's not). The risk of a dog causing a serious injury to a civilian, a child at that, was considered as too great.

Just out of interest would a policeman nowadays let his dog loose on the kids (padded up of course) who live round the back or are those days now long gone?


anonymous-user

56 months

Sunday 12th May 2013
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I think you know the answer to your own question wink

The last time I did it was a couple of years ago, but I imagine if I ever got bitten there'd be an email going around telling everyone not to do it unless trained / authorised / in a full suit etc.

It's a great buzz when you're running away and you hear those quick foot steps closing in behind you.


Jasandjules

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231 months

Sunday 12th May 2013
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Well that sounds like superb fun!

baldy1926

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202 months

Sunday 12th May 2013
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When I was in Ni at Aldergrove one the of attack dogs on camp was the biggest toughest dogs you have ever seen. I'm certain there was far more wolf than anything else in the dog.
He always attracted a good crowd for training sessions as no one could stay on their feet once he hit a person.
All the hard nuts and fitness guys and the biggest guys on camp all tried and they all failed.
The only thing was he would not let go.
It was great fun watching everyone getting taken out.
I'm just glad that I did not try as there were a few injuries from this dog.

dudleybloke

19,992 posts

188 months

Sunday 12th May 2013
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i had the chance to put the padded suit on about 20 years ago while at r.a.f. St Athan, the dog that took me out was the size of a 3 seater settee.
i didnt get injured at all but i could feel the pressure from the dogs jaws clamping on my arm like a vice and without all the padding i would have been lunch!
it was a good laugh though, specialy trying to run in a full bite suit.

TheLostProphet

687 posts

134 months

Sunday 12th May 2013
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I'm currently down in the Falklands and was out at the dog section here for a visit a few months ago. Got used for a bit of training for the dogs. Its hard to run in the full suit and the challenge is to reach the far end of the yard. I got just over half way before getting wiped out. With the full face mask I couldn't hear the dog catching me so was just running waiting for the hit.

It was great fun.

Tannedbaldhead

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134 months

Sunday 12th May 2013
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dudleybloke said:
i didnt get injured at all but i could feel the pressure from the dogs jaws clamping on my arm like a vice .
When I first had my blood pressure taken it reminded me of being bitten through a pad.


dudleybloke said:
it was a good laugh though, specialy trying to run in a full bite suit.
I kid you not (though bearing in mind it was over 30 years ago it'll not be too difficult to believe) the only PPE we wore was a pad on our right arm. Used to wave it about like a barsteward to make sure the dog bit us there and not anywhere else. Not surprising that an officer suffered a bum-bite injury.

Furry Exocet

3,011 posts

183 months

Sunday 12th May 2013
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Having been bitten by a police dog on the arse, I can confirm it fking hurts!
I was attempting to restrain a male after a pub fight, there were a few arms and legs lashing out, the dog handler came up to get the crowds back and got a bit too close to me, it had the same effect and after seeing the Police dog rip into me and drag me down the road, no one else wanted to fight.

After a trip to A&E I saw the dog handler and we had a laugh about it, but I was in pain!

Tannedbaldhead

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Sunday 12th May 2013
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Furry Exocet said:
Having been bitten by a police dog on the arse, I can confirm it fking hurts!
I was attempting to restrain a male after a pub fight, there were a few arms and legs lashing out, the dog handler came up to get the crowds back and got a bit too close to me, it had the same effect and after seeing the Police dog rip into me and drag me down the road, no one else wanted to fight.

After a trip to A&E I saw the dog handler and we had a laugh about it, but I was in pain!
There were dogs on the force who's handlers were quite proud of the fact their dogs had bitten more colleagues than criminals. Dogs with a particularly bad reputation could have every copper shut themselves in their cars as soon as dog-van appeared on the scene.

As well as telling me this our neighbour also observed that Police dogs are a bit like Police humans. You have your good ones who are friendly, will play and allow themselves to be stroked, petted and have their tummies, the back of their ears and under their chins tickled until someone is identified as a badun then the teeth are brought to bear. Others are a liability to the force and need kept in a cage as they will bite criminals, innocent bystanders and colleagues with equal abandon.

Tango13

8,522 posts

178 months

Sunday 12th May 2013
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When I was doing some work experince as a 14yo with the local Gamekeeper he had a GSD/Wolf/Landshark the size of a settee. This dog was so friendly you wouldn't believe it, I made a fuss of him on the Monday and after that he would wait for me to turn up in the morning for ear scratching duties.

The Gamekeeper asked on the Friday if he could set the dog on me to give him a run out as 'Hound of Satan' needed the practice. This dog was Bipolar I swear, he went after me like his next meal depended on it but once I was down he was more interested in sniffing about and enjoying the air than chasing after me.

br d

8,410 posts

228 months

Sunday 12th May 2013
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Been brought down by a police dog back in the long ago, absolutely terrifying. He didn't actually break the skin because I was wearing a Harrington over a Levi jacket which was enough to stop him getting through but the power of his jaws was shocking, I had bruises for weeks.

That feeling of one second running for your life and the next second being dragged back by this bloody great snarling monster was enough to admit to anything just to get the bd off! They shake you like a rag doll and you're stting yourself that it will bite your face. I've seen much harder men than me yelping and begging once a dog gets a grip. The copper who's dog got me was beaming with pride the git! Good luck to him though, I fully deserved it at the time.


Jasandjules

70,012 posts

231 months

Sunday 12th May 2013
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br d said:
Been brought down by a police dog back in the long ago, absolutely terrifying. He didn't actually break the skin because I was wearing a Harrington over a Levi jacket which was enough to stop him getting through but the power of his jaws was shocking, I had bruises for weeks.
Oh yes they have strong jaws. My dogs are rather bigger and more powerful than a GSD and can bite straight through a lamb head. Scary just how much damage they could do if they really, really want to.

Derek Smith

45,860 posts

250 months

Sunday 12th May 2013
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A City police dog, Denzil, did not want to flounce about with the decidedly girly biting of arms. It had other ideas.

There was a demo of police units in the Guildhall and my unit gave a demo of self defence and they had one of the saner police dogs scheduled for restraint (biting arms in other words.) The best laid plane and all that: Denzil had to fill the hole, an apt phrase.

There was a grandstand erected in the yard and bigwigs from the City and further afield was bored to tears until a cadet, all padded out, ran across the yard.

Denzil's handler shouted out the warnings: you could almost believe he had shouted them out before when chasing suspects. He slipped Denzil and off he went.

Just before tackling the lad Denzil's non-conformist beliefs took over and instead of biting the proffered arm he did what he normally did, which was jump on the back of the kid, bring him to the ground and then try and bugger him.

As you can imagine, there was a silence over the square (apart from the whimpering of the Cadet) as the handler ran over and tore the dog from his enthusiastic calisthenics. One of the bigwigs called out: Can I have pick of the litter?

Tango13

8,522 posts

178 months

Sunday 12th May 2013
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Derek Smith said:
A City police dog, Denzil, did not want to flounce about with the decidedly girly biting of arms. It had other ideas.

There was a demo of police units in the Guildhall and my unit gave a demo of self defence and they had one of the saner police dogs scheduled for restraint (biting arms in other words.) The best laid plane and all that: Denzil had to fill the hole, an apt phrase.

There was a grandstand erected in the yard and bigwigs from the City and further afield was bored to tears until a cadet, all padded out, ran across the yard.

Denzil's handler shouted out the warnings: you could almost believe he had shouted them out before when chasing suspects. He slipped Denzil and off he went.

Just before tackling the lad Denzil's non-conformist beliefs took over and instead of biting the proffered arm he did what he normally did, which was jump on the back of the kid, bring him to the ground and then try and bugger him.

As you can imagine, there was a silence over the square (apart from the whimpering of the Cadet) as the handler ran over and tore the dog from his enthusiastic calisthenics. One of the bigwigs called out: Can I have pick of the litter?
I downloaded your book on kindle and it's just as funny now as when I first read it.

On a much sillier note, how much compensation could you get for attempted buggeration by a Police dog?

Derek Smith

45,860 posts

250 months

Sunday 12th May 2013
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Tango13 said:
I downloaded your book on kindle and it's just as funny now as when I first read it.

On a much sillier note, how much compensation could you get for attempted buggeration by a Police dog?
Thanks for that.

I had to run an ID parade for a lad who had had his ear bitten off by a police dog. There was no doubt that the kid, 16 years, had not been involved. He was a spectator. So I had not idea why I was spending so much imagination trying to figure out a way of running the parade.

Two of the prosecution witnesses said that the 'offender' was not on the parade but the boy the dog who was just watching was on the parade, and gave the number. So my parade was the evidence for those who sued the job.

Mind you, the mother of the kid was absolutely superb. She cooperated and when I told her how impressed I was with her attitude she said that she did not ant to put her child off the police (but presumably she had given up with getting him to accept dogs were OK).

I was at a rugby club do last weekend (at Twickenham after my lad scored a try and led his team to victory in the intermediate cup - just thought I'd throw that in) and I was talking to one of the other side's officials (what can you say?) and two of my lad's team came up and the first kissed me on the forehead and the other on the lips - they were drunk but, unfortunately, I was not.

The official gave me a weird stare and I said: I've been kissed by more blokes today than I have been in my whole life.

It was a pathetic thing to say so I thought I should reinforce it so said: And for two years I was gay.

The bloke looked around as if he was worried that someone might have overheard.

Edited to add:

The book is still available.

papa3

1,420 posts

189 months

Sunday 12th May 2013
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Our coppers are still expected to train with the dogs and it make for a better working relationship between the handlers and other staff. When I trained we did one on one against the dog, handler protected by the dog and dogs advancing onto a crowd. Even with hugely superior numbers the crowd retreats naturally when the dogs start up.

When I did basic one of my classmates tripped whilst running from the dog who promptly sank its teeth into his upper thigh and scrotum.

I've also been out when the dogs were deployed and they are worth their weight in gold. Only seen one live bite and the guy went down like a lead balloon.

Ki3r

7,843 posts

161 months

Sunday 12th May 2013
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I've hidden from a Police dog (was helping one of the handlers), I can honestly say, I was scared stless. Despite knowing that it was well trained and wearing that sleeve thing, I could hear my heart pounding. It didn't bite, but barked bloody loudly!

If I ever end up running from the Police and I hear someone threaten me with a dog, I'll give up there and then.

Tannedbaldhead

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134 months

Thursday 27th June 2013
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http://uk.news.yahoo.com/police-dog-bites-boy-oldb...

And suddenly it's not a fun subject anymore. Poor kid, poor family and poor handler who's going to feel pretty st after this.

carinaman

21,395 posts

174 months

Thursday 27th June 2013
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A very amusing tail Derek. smile

Who me ?

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214 months

Thursday 27th June 2013
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Tannedbaldhead said:
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/police-dog-bites-boy-oldb...

And suddenly it's not a fun subject anymore. Poor kid, poor family and poor handler who's going to feel pretty st after this.
And in my back yard, the police dog would be looking at a lot of injuries ,as my Terrier would be on guard, and bite my GS- beware of the little furry Highland terrier .