I genuinely despair at the abysmal cheapness...
I genuinely despair at the abysmal cheapness...
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derestrictor

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18,764 posts

291 months

Saturday 3rd January 2009
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Ah, woe is me.

Bloody bean counters.

Specifically, the vermin who diluted the Teutonic spannerwerks of the blessed beetles from the late 90s, to wit, the infernal 996.

Took El Porkenwurst up the local ferret way for a quick shakedown, it having had a new battery and very little exercise of late.

Great, fast and unique. You all knew that anyway.

But how does anyone cope with that mound of scratch and squeakfesting masquerading as the centre console and in all probability, the whole dashboard?

I mean, even at Mach HSP* with the TTP exhaust bellowing it's end orf, the sheer symphony of cack grade plastic squealage was even in that maelstrom, a low level source of immense frustration.

I have enquired with Dr Fearns concerning internal trim based amputation and we shall see but before I rip the whole f@cking interior oot, do any venerable members/fellow sufferers have any cunning tips/experience of such irritation - and solutions?



Scum. Scum of The North.

(*Hereditary Speeding Peerage.)

Edited by derestrictor on Saturday 3rd January 13:43

Ultra Violent

2,827 posts

299 months

Saturday 3rd January 2009
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...buy a 993tt, but you already knew that smile

The Londoner

3,964 posts

268 months

Saturday 3rd January 2009
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Vas ist das Der? Thought your Pork turbo was air cooled. When did you go over to the dark side?

derestrictor

Original Poster:

18,764 posts

291 months

Saturday 3rd January 2009
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Er, I was forced into it, by fate and some stonemasonry.

Gunny Sergeant D

2,248 posts

270 months

Sunday 4th January 2009
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my early 986 rattled. The later one post 2002 didn't. Does your have a facelift interior?

sportsandclassic

3,774 posts

248 months

Sunday 4th January 2009
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Hi

996 cars suffer alot from windscreen seal/aperture creaking....the main cause of this is that the screen has not been installed in the middle of the aperture.

There is a modification you can do to the aperture to minimise this and this involves a roll of teflon tape and some foam string we call bungee cord.

Most independants can do this job and all OPC's are aware of the problem.
This can sound like the whole dash is alive.

Mike

freedman

6,015 posts

237 months

Sunday 4th January 2009
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sportsandclassic said:
Hi

996 cars suffer alot from windscreen seal/aperture creaking....the main cause of this is that the screen has not been installed in the middle of the aperture.

There is a modification you can do to the aperture to minimise this and this involves a roll of teflon tape and some foam string we call bungee cord.

Most independants can do this job and all OPC's are aware of the problem.
This can sound like the whole dash is alive.

Mike
????

This is a well known 993 issue. I havent heard anything about 996s having the same problem

melv

4,708 posts

295 months

Sunday 4th January 2009
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Good grief Der, this must be serious -your first post for months and it's about a squeaky dashboard -FFS, is that the best you can do???? biggrin -you oughta take a ride in my car some time for a spot of rattle and squeak identification. rolleyes

I'd say give Herr Doktor Fearns a chainsaw and let him sought it out....eek

And a Happy New Year to you.....

anonymous-user

84 months

Sunday 4th January 2009
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Must be the low temperatures up north - I have a 996 and a 997 and nary a squeak from either after a combined mileage of close to 50k. The buzzzing dash around the stereo on my old 993 on the otherhand used to drive me nuts.....

madala

5,063 posts

228 months

Sunday 4th January 2009
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Ultra Violent said:
...buy a 993tt, but you already knew that smile
....buy ANY 993....quality product....

Hereward

5,108 posts

260 months

Sunday 4th January 2009
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In my 996 the plastic trim around the PCM screen and centre air vents creaks when it's cold outside, but is fine in the Summer.

madala

5,063 posts

228 months

Sunday 4th January 2009
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......winter or summer.....no creaks in the 13 year old 993....now that must say something....build quality of the 993 rules.

LeoSayer

7,829 posts

274 months

Sunday 4th January 2009
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madala said:
......winter or summer.....no creaks in the 13 year old 993....now that must say something....build quality of the 993 rules.
The creaky windscreen on the 993 used to drive derestrictor mad IIRC

gary11

4,162 posts

231 months

Sunday 4th January 2009
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freedman said:
sportsandclassic said:
Hi

996 cars suffer alot from windscreen seal/aperture creaking....the main cause of this is that the screen has not been installed in the middle of the aperture.

There is a modification you can do to the aperture to minimise this and this involves a roll of teflon tape and some foam string we call bungee cord.

Most independants can do this job and all OPC's are aware of the problem.
This can sound like the whole dash is alive.

Mike
????
+1 also not using porsche glue can cause it

This is a well known 993 issue. I havent heard anything about 996s having the same problem

madala

5,063 posts

228 months

Monday 5th January 2009
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LeoSayer said:
madala said:
......winter or summer.....no creaks in the 13 year old 993....now that must say something....build quality of the 993 rules.
The creaky windscreen on the 993 used to drive derestrictor mad IIRC
.....obviously a badly fitted replacement w/screen......lots of posts about that.....

Bodo

12,599 posts

296 months

Monday 5th January 2009
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LeoSayer said:
madala said:
......winter or summer.....no creaks in the 13 year old 993....now that must say something....build quality of the 993 rules.
The creaky windscreen on the 993 used to drive derestrictor mad IIRC
Who drove what mad?

sleep envy

62,260 posts

279 months

Monday 5th January 2009
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Ultra Violent said:
...buy a 993tt, but you already knew that smile
1st response, lovely

derestrictor

Original Poster:

18,764 posts

291 months

Monday 5th January 2009
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Pretty sure Von Fearns has confirmed ok or done the windscreen shuffle (taped edges, etc.)

No, this is indisputably crumby grade assembly/material quality at hand.

For example, mild 'patting' of either side of the centre console upright elicits the most appalling racket; a veritable cornucopia of Korean plastics falling on an equally dire pallet of Taiwenese toys from the mid 70s.

It's like Buzz Lightyear having a mosh with Mr Potato Head.

I've experienced something similar with different rounds of cost cutting elsewhere from ze vaterland; early Mercs from the '99-03 era and some distinctly sub E39 shenanigans from Bucholz as recently as 2006.

I bet you don't get this in a clubsport GT2 - it doesn't have a centre console!

Urgh! banghead

derestrictor

Original Poster:

18,764 posts

291 months

Monday 26th January 2009
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Sounds like His Fearnship has located the sources of cruddy sin.

Having examined the dash innards it appears one of the air vents has thrown a piece or two and these will, upon certain speeds o'er expansion joints, produce said clapping effect.

Also, the CD storage unit is truly vile even by the cost cutting standards of late 90s, profit maximising German autocorporations so it is goney whilst the rest of the unit will be swadled in vibration ameliorating material.

Apparently the car has now bedded in afaic (apparently, accoding to an assumption made on my behalf by The Fearnlord) so will be receiving a small dose of additional dilithium.

smile


spenny_b

1,071 posts

273 months

Monday 26th January 2009
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Der, one source of vibratus annoyus can be ridded (sorry, I don't speak "Derestrcitor" very well yet!) by binning the center console altogether. Gert will sell you the correct kit to remove it - am going to do this on the '3 very soon.

Not only does it look better (imho) and more inkeeping with older interior architectures, it affords more left leg roomage. Please tell me you havn't got a Tip? nono