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Ultra Violent

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2,827 posts

299 months

Thursday 13th November 2008
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08 spyder sub 1k miles, for 95k, from a dealer.

Dealer had private seller needing cash, and couldn't take on any more stock so rang me see if I was interested as i'd been to see a few cars, weeks earlier. He has seen the receipt for 154k delivered 3 months ago.

January is going to be fun.

diablo_pete

3,595 posts

225 months

Thursday 13th November 2008
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You going for it? Be a great car

JohnG1

3,487 posts

235 months

Thursday 13th November 2008
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Wow! That's a great bargain for someon lucky and a terrible hole in the wallet for the seller.

I am expecting 2 year old Gs to hit £60-£70k in Q1 2009. There will be a lot of jingle mail in the run up to Christmas...

Ultra Violent

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2,827 posts

299 months

Thursday 13th November 2008
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Well speaking to the guy he was saying that between dealers things are much worse. Basically no one is buying. Mid might be sensible, but that means st in this market. Back to the days of nice cars being a rarity on the roads and many more people doing with posters rather than the real thing. To be honest, I think it is for the better.

Try5t

722 posts

238 months

Thursday 13th November 2008
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Ultra Violent said:
Well speaking to the guy he was saying that between dealers things are much worse. Basically no one is buying. Mid might be sensible, but that means st in this market. Back to the days of nice cars being a rarity on the roads and many more people doing with posters rather than the real thing. To be honest, I think it is for the better.
oooohhh ... I can hear the teeth grinding !!

I see your point though .. :thumbsup:

But I think you are right about car sales ... there is certain amount of lag in the economy at the moment and first quarter of next year is going to be very interesting. Just waiting for the lp560's to get to £100k ...


diablo_pete

3,595 posts

225 months

Saturday 15th November 2008
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polar8 said:
Love the car very much, but need to sell asap -- 90k.... takers? 157 List - 650 miles.
So sorry to hear you need to get rid after less than a months of ownership. Assume you're trading up?

Pete

Sarnie

8,373 posts

239 months

Saturday 15th November 2008
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polar8 said:
Love the car very much, but need to sell asap -- 90k.... takers? 157 List - 650 miles.
Are there any pics of it anywhere? Spec?

A1

681 posts

241 months

Saturday 15th November 2008
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Ive seen the spec and pics and great car. My only concern is that its a EUROPEAN CAR, imported from germany................what effect that will have on price when i come to sell it

steven f

538 posts

230 months

Saturday 15th November 2008
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Ultra Violent said:
08 spyder sub 1k miles, for 95k, from a dealer.

Dealer had private seller needing cash, and couldn't take on any more stock so rang me see if I was interested as i'd been to see a few cars, weeks earlier. He has seen the receipt for 154k delivered 3 months ago.

January is going to be fun.
well are you a buyer or a talker ????

Ultra Violent

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299 months

Saturday 15th November 2008
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I do both actually, not that it is any of your business.

steven f

538 posts

230 months

Sunday 16th November 2008
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Ultra Violent said:
I do both actually, not that it is any of your business.
with your first post it looks like you was looking for one and then offered one very cheap cant understand why you have not bought it thats the reason for asking

Ultra Violent

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2,827 posts

299 months

Sunday 16th November 2008
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I am, but I think things are going to get much worse. I see LP560's at 100k early next year. Any mass produced car regardless of make is going to get slammed. People are just not going to pay more because it is a Lambo, Ferrari, Porsche, what ever. As I said else where, back to the times of Super cars on the walls of bedrooms and only very few actually being bought and driven. Which is good IMO.

Ring up a dealer and ask for a bid on any car, see what his response is. Most are worrying about whether they'll be in business long enough to sell it. Too many people have been living on crazy inflation which has kept prices artificially high. Now, the only thing going to keep prices up is supply and demand. How many people have signed up for a new Lambo this month?

Anjum

1,606 posts

314 months

Sunday 16th November 2008
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Ultra Violent said:
I am, but I think things are going to get much worse. I see LP560's at 100k early next year. Any mass produced car regardless of make is going to get slammed. People are just not going to pay more because it is a Lambo, Ferrari, Porsche, what ever. As I said else where, back to the times of Super cars on the walls of bedrooms and only very few actually being bought and driven. Which is good IMO.

Ring up a dealer and ask for a bid on any car, see what his response is. Most are worrying about whether they'll be in business long enough to sell it. Too many people have been living on crazy inflation which has kept prices artificially high. Now, the only thing going to keep prices up is supply and demand. How many people have signed up for a new Lambo this month?
I've put in a letter of intent for the LP640 Sv or SL - whatever it will be called.

But - you are right - things are dire if you are selling - and great if you are buying. There are some amazing bargins to be had right now - Bently GT's fully loaded for £55K (and lower) - Merc CL63 fully loaded for £70K - you can pick up a 599 for £165K - and they continue to reprice.

Anjum

Ultra Violent

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2,827 posts

299 months

Monday 17th November 2008
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Yeah, I agree. I think main dealers are in a position to undercut many private sales at the moment. Had a cheeky whisper from one main dealer offering a deal that I couldn't match with any private sale. All dealers will have lots of new stock based on previous years sales numbers, that clearly wont be shifting at retail prices. They are also in a position to offer things that private sellers can't.

I'd like to see Lambo cut production numbers on the LP560 and make it a proper must have car, keeping residuals strong and desirability high.

It's going to be interesting to see what happens to Porsche, 80% of their cars are mass produced tat.

R.P.M

1,980 posts

251 months

Monday 17th November 2008
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maybe the car in question?

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/791836.htm


Rpm

BentleyLamboBrum

373 posts

225 months

Monday 17th November 2008
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Then you will be pleased to know that Lambo numbers in the UK will be more than halved next year. We are a pretty big dealer but will only get 8 LP560 Coupe next year (3 of which are alreasy sold)!! As for £100k 560? Hard to say but it depends how desperate a private is to get his cash. I cant see dealers selling them at that kind of money.

martisracing

211 posts

219 months

Monday 17th November 2008
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I think the prospect of cheap LP560's is a little optomistic. The cars which are appearing cheap are ones bought or commited to pre credit crash where owners are having to sell becuase of needing to get funds. The number of LP560's that fall into this time period can only be half a dozen at the most. The only people buying these cars now are ones who can afford them. Why would you buy a car in a credit crunch knowing that you are going to loose a lot of money if you have to sell it quick? If none are being sold new where are all the second hand ones coming from? Old shape Gallardos and F430's are a fifferent arguement completly as there are so many about. It is all about supply and demand.

traxx

3,143 posts

252 months

Monday 17th November 2008
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BentleyLamboBrum said:
Then you will be pleased to know that Lambo numbers in the UK will be more than halved next year. We are a pretty big dealer but will only get 8 LP560 Coupe next year (3 of which are alreasy sold)!! As for £100k 560? Hard to say but it depends how desperate a private is to get his cash. I cant see dealers selling them at that kind of money.
yes, but how many 560spyders will you get?

Chipper

1,540 posts

247 months

Monday 17th November 2008
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BentleyLamboBrum said:
Then you will be pleased to know that Lambo numbers in the UK will be more than halved next year. We are a pretty big dealer but will only get 8 LP560 Coupe next year (3 of which are alreasy sold)!! As for £100k 560? Hard to say but it depends how desperate a private is to get his cash. I cant see dealers selling them at that kind of money.
If the market for lambo's had any strength then this car wouldn't even be up for sale privately. The seller would have obviously tried selling it to a Lambo dealer first or some other specialist car dealership, the fact that he's selling it privately with a loss of £60000 + after covering only 650 miles speaks volumes to how bad it is out there! The only thing holding back 560's being £100k soon is the fact that hardly anyone will be buying them new in the first place!

Edited by Chipper on Monday 17th November 19:08


Edited by Chipper on Monday 17th November 19:24

polar8

520 posts

232 months

Monday 17th November 2008
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Chipper said:
BentleyLamboBrum said:
Then you will be pleased to know that Lambo numbers in the UK will be more than halved next year. We are a pretty big dealer but will only get 8 LP560 Coupe next year (3 of which are alreasy sold)!! As for £100k 560? Hard to say but it depends how desperate a private is to get his cash. I cant see dealers selling them at that kind of money.
If the market for lambo's had any strength then this car wouldn't even be up for sale privately. The seller would have obviously tried selling it to a Lambo dealer first or some other specialist car dealership, the fact that he's selling it privately with a loss of £60000 + after covering only 650 miles speaks volumes to how bad it is out there! The only thing holding back 560's being £100k soon is the fact that hardly anyone will be buying them new in the first place!

Edited by Chipper on Monday 17th November 19:08


Edited by Chipper on Monday 17th huh 19:24
You are joking right? (s)Dealers like Lambo Birmingham above will take your pants down and shaft you good and proper before they treat you like a long term valued customer. I have had an awful short experience with Lambo stealers and that's why I'll happily sell at a loss to get back to Aston where they have some form of loyalty be respect for their customers.

Edited by polar8 on Monday 17th November 20:50