RE: UK Diesel Supercar
Thursday 21st August 2008

UK Diesel Supercar

550bhp from an oil burner?


UK sports car manufacturer Trident Performance Vehicles, has unveiled a new project that claims to offer diesel economy with true supercar performance.

The Trident Iceni is powered by a General Motors Duramax 6.6 litre turbo- charged V8 diesel, modified to produce 550 bhp and an amazing 950 lb- ft of torque from 1800 rpm. Further technical details are scarce, but we hear that only one gearbox will be offered, and that will be an 8 speed automatic.

Performance wise, Trident claim it will be capable of speeds in excess of 200mph and the 0-60 time is under four seconds. It's not just the performance figures that are impressive though, the claimed fuel consumption is 55mpg.

Sadly, Trident is searching for more investors to take development of the Iceni to the next level so we wonder if we will ever see this car on the road at all? If we do, Trident plans to sell it for under £75,000.





 

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andrew.delamare

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Thursday 21st August 2008
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jeez.. only a mother could love it.

OJ

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Thursday 21st August 2008
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Lord Snot

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Thursday 21st August 2008
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£75000?!

That is a lot to be honest, especially when you consider what 75K can get you (Something that will no doubt sound a lot better!)

Porsche sales are down at the moment, so introducing a car with a similar price tag just won't work IMO.

The styling looks O.K but I am not sure about that rear curve.

Why do British companys always try and come up with a ludicrously expensive supercar? Design something small, simple, good looking and innovate such as the original Mini.

It won't keep up with a Zonda, but at least it will show KIA and those other Asian car companies how small cars should be done.

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Edited by Lord Snot on Thursday 21st August 11:30


Edited by Lord Snot on Thursday 21st August 11:31

sniff diesel

13,124 posts

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Thursday 21st August 2008
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Wonder what the emissions are like scratchchin

Andyt25

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270 months

Thursday 21st August 2008
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Didn't Trident show the same car...longer and bigger...in the late 90's as a petrol car. Remember it at the motorshow. It was the same time that Jenson showed their come back car..that failed to. If they are still going then good luck to them I say.

I.T.B

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Thursday 21st August 2008
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Andyt25 said:
Didn't Trident show the same car...longer and bigger...in the late 90's as a petrol car. Remember it at the motorshow. It was the same time that Jenson showed their come back car..that failed to. If they are still going then good luck to them I say.
It was called the Iceni aswell I think, it appeared on PGR2 and it was petrol.

I actually quite like it, but still I don't like the idea of a diesel supercar.

Andyt25

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Thursday 21st August 2008
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Yep thought so...Motorshow year 2000...





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dublet

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Thursday 21st August 2008
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If they ever produce that, I'll have one!+ I love going fast, but a 90 mile a day round trip mandates economy. 550bhp and 55mpg sounds good to me! tank Not only that, but imagine the caravan you could pull at 100+mph. biggrin


+: Provided I have money.rolleyes

Lord Snot

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Thursday 21st August 2008
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dublet said:
If they ever produce that, I'll have one!+ I love going fast, but a 90 mile a day round trip mandates economy. 550bhp and 55mpg sounds good to me! tank Not only that, but imagine the caravan you could pull at 100+mph. biggrin


+: Provided I have money.rolleyes
According to Toyota the Prius does 60 MPG.

55 MPG from 550 BHP? Really?

The Tourag V10 only manages 20 something.

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Nuova500

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Thursday 21st August 2008
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It's never going to have a chance is Audi release the R10 diesel!!!!

Lord Snot

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Nuova500 said:
It's never going to have a chance is Audi release the R10 diesel!!!!
Word on the street is that it has been scrapped for a V10 Petrol.

Nuova500

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Thursday 21st August 2008
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Lord Snot said:
Nuova500 said:
It's never going to have a chance is Audi release the R10 diesel!!!!
Word on the street is that it has been scrapped for a V10 Petrol.
Arse.

EdT

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Thursday 21st August 2008
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I dont care about the economy.. look miles too ghey

Insight

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Thursday 21st August 2008
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it probably could do 55mpg, but not if it was accelerating hard or driving fast


Chris71

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Thursday 21st August 2008
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Lord Snot said:
dublet said:
If they ever produce that, I'll have one!+ I love going fast, but a 90 mile a day round trip mandates economy. 550bhp and 55mpg sounds good to me! tank Not only that, but imagine the caravan you could pull at 100+mph. biggrin


+: Provided I have money.rolleyes
According to Toyota the Prius does 60 MPG.

55 MPG from 550 BHP? Really?

The Tourag V10 only manages 20 something.

Edited by Lord Snot on Thursday 21st August 11:49
I think that has a lot to do with pulling three tons of aerodynamically challenegd 4X4.

Sports cars tend to be far more efficient in bhp/MPG terms. It's a myth that a high specific output engine has to be thirsty. Plus lower weight and drag is a huge advantage.

Frimley111R

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Thursday 21st August 2008
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Anyone noticed the 'face' in the centre console??

bigbadbikercats

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Thursday 21st August 2008
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Lord Snot said:
£75000?!
Why do British companys always try and come up with a ludicrously expensive supercar? Design something small, simple, good looking and innovate such as the original Mini.
It's all about the economics of volume production. If you're going to sell something small and simple it's got to compete on price with existing small and simple products from the likes of Ford, VW, GM et-al, which means you've got to sell a lot of them to make any money, which means you've got to spend squillions of pounds on tooling.

A hand-built supercar built in small numbers on a (relatively) simple space space frame requires surprisingly little in the way of expensive tooling and you can (theoretically) make money out of building and selling a handful.

That's before you even start thinking about dealer networks, service/repair infrastructure,. being able to handle recalls, homologation costs etc, etc, etc...

The likes of Caterham, Westfield, etc manage to sell relatively small numbers of small simple cars for relatively high prices but that's a crowded niche these days and the chequered history of Lotus demonstrates how perilous it can be to try to occupy some kind of middle ground.

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JG

VladD

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Thursday 21st August 2008
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I still can't inderstand why someone would spend 75K on something, which will lose at least 40K in depreciation over 3 years and then buy a diesel to save money? Honestly, can anyone explain that to me?

744ti

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Thursday 21st August 2008
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Nuova500 said:
It's never going to have a chance is Audi release the R10 diesel(mapped)!!!!

mk1fan

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Thursday 21st August 2008
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Lord Snot said:
ludicrously expensive
That's totally inaccurate. Expensive when compared to a Focus yes. But not ludicrous. Compared to other 200mph machines, it's cheap.