The 0845 scam spotted at last
The 0845 scam spotted at last
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Simpo Two

Original Poster:

92,002 posts

291 months

Tuesday 16th December 2008
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'A ban on the use, by GP surgeries and other parts of the NHS, of phone numbers which begin with 084 is being considered, say ministers.'

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7783963.stm


It may not cost much, but I greatly resent paying for a monthly call package, then having to pay again. Grr!

joewilliams

2,004 posts

227 months

Tuesday 16th December 2008
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They're legislating in the wrong place - they should be making the phone companies charge ""Local"" and ""National"" rate numbers at local and national rates, including them in the call plans where appropriate.

mechsympathy

57,946 posts

281 months

Tuesday 16th December 2008
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But GP surgeries aren't part of the NHS;)

miniman

29,624 posts

288 months

Tuesday 16th December 2008
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joewilliams said:
They're legislating in the wrong place - they should be making the phone companies charge ""Local"" and ""National"" rate numbers at local and national rates, including them in the call plans where appropriate.
Agreed, the issue is though that the lines simply wouldn't exist if they weren't generating revenue - the surgery gets a super dooper phone system for peanuts and the patients pick up the tab. Personally I would rather pay 5p and sit in a queue than pay nothing and have to redial a bazillion times to get through to a grumpy receptionist.

Shay HTFC

3,588 posts

215 months

Wednesday 17th December 2008
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www.saynoto0870.com

Often offers a geographical number if you type in the 0870 number you want to ring.

moffspeed

3,505 posts

233 months

Wednesday 17th December 2008
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mechsympathy said:
But GP surgeries aren't part of the NHS;)
Oh really ??

john_p

7,073 posts

276 months

Wednesday 17th December 2008
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Simpo Two said:
'A ban on the use, by GP surgeries and other parts of the NHS, of phone numbers which begin with 084 is being considered, say ministers.'

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7783963.stm


It may not cost much, but I greatly resent paying for a monthly call package, then having to pay again. Grr!
They'll just switch to 0870 instead...it's even more expensive!

rich1231

17,339 posts

286 months

Wednesday 17th December 2008
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How do you think GP surgeries pay for their phone systems?

They will end up having a single phone line if they have to pay for the infrastructure directly. And the money will be taken from patient care.

Plotloss

67,280 posts

296 months

Wednesday 17th December 2008
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rich1231 said:
How do you think GP surgeries pay for their phone systems?

They will end up having a single phone line if they have to pay for the infrastructure directly. And the money will be taken from patient care.
Thats what they do here, you have to call at 8.30am on the day you want an appointment and at 8.30 the line is jammed solid.

Its like trying to get bloody Glasto tickets.

miniman

29,624 posts

288 months

Wednesday 17th December 2008
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Plotloss said:
Its like trying to get bloody Glasto tickets.
And with a similar likelihood of catching botulism at the end of it all, too.

mechsympathy

57,946 posts

281 months

Wednesday 17th December 2008
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moffspeed said:
mechsympathy said:
But GP surgeries aren't part of the NHS;)
Oh really ??
Yep. They're independent businesses which subcontract their services to the NHS.

HUW JONES

2,005 posts

229 months

Wednesday 17th December 2008
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Yep..we're independent contractors.We were offered said schemes by telephone service providers but always declined.Just spent 6K of our own money (ok tax allowable)upgrading our system to achieve similar results without ripping the punters off.Indeed I recall these 0845 numbers are frowned upon by our masters anyway so should be few and far between.
ps I really should be seeing the next patient but I can't face it.
Cheers.

julian64

14,325 posts

280 months

Wednesday 17th December 2008
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Yep, I'm with hugh, we spend about 5K on phones out of our own pockets last year getting qeueing systems and diverting jobbies to various parts of the practice.

I hear a lot about 0845 number in general practice but don't know a single practice that actually uses them. Maybe more mythical than real round our way.

ultegra

525 posts

232 months

Wednesday 17th December 2008
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Reminds me of how my dad used to bang on about my brother and i wasting money calling "those 0800 numbers".

Berk.

hornetrider

63,161 posts

231 months

Wednesday 17th December 2008
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Nice one chaps! Now, go cure some patients you lazy feckers

hehe

Nick_F

10,598 posts

272 months

Wednesday 17th December 2008
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HUW JONES said:
Yep..we're independent contractors.We were offered said schemes by telephone service providers but always declined.Just spent 6K of our own money (ok tax allowable)upgrading our system to achieve similar results without ripping the punters off.Indeed I recall these 0845 numbers are frowned upon by our masters anyway so should be few and far between.
ps I really should be seeing the next patient but I can't face it.
Cheers.
I thought only vets could refer to their patients as 'it'...

HUW JONES

2,005 posts

229 months

Wednesday 17th December 2008
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Nick_F said:
HUW JONES said:
Yep..we're independent contractors.We were offered said schemes by telephone service providers but always declined.Just spent 6K of our own money (ok tax allowable)upgrading our system to achieve similar results without ripping the punters off.Indeed I recall these 0845 numbers are frowned upon by our masters anyway so should be few and far between.
ps I really should be seeing the next patient but I can't face it.
Cheers.
I thought only vets could refer to their patients as 'it'...
...apologies to all you sick people out there...I was referring to the "experience"....and yes I will feck off and do something to justify my 100k or is it 200k? pay.

hornetrider

63,161 posts

231 months

Wednesday 17th December 2008
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HUW JONES said:
...apologies to all you sick people out there...I was referring to the "experience"....and yes I will feck off and do something to justify my 100k or is it 200k? pay.
If you're anything like me you stop counting when it gets into three figures.

But, at least I don't have to interact with the great unwashed on a daily basis. You deserve every penny you get.

wink

Busa_Rush

6,930 posts

277 months

Wednesday 17th December 2008
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julian64 said:
Yep, I'm with hugh, we spend about 5K on phones out of our own pockets last year getting qeueing systems and diverting jobbies to various parts of the practice.

I hear a lot about 0845 number in general practice but don't know a single practice that actually uses them. Maybe more mythical than real round our way.
Mine has 0845 . . . so BT charge me the 5p/min rate rather than it being free. Dr receives income from it.

Most business have to have a 'phone system, surely Dr's are no different ?

turbobloke

116,724 posts

286 months

Wednesday 17th December 2008
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julian64 said:
I hear a lot about 0845 number in general practice but don't know a single practice that actually uses them. Maybe more mythical than real round our way.
Mine uses them. Several family members likewise (different locations).