Which drill for a stone house?
Which drill for a stone house?
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defblade

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7,832 posts

229 months

Tuesday 11th November 2008
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Ok, my up-till-now perfectly fine and tidy corded hammer drill has done everything asked of it, from cars to shop refits.

But we've moved into a stone-built house in Wales and suddenly it'll go through the plaster then, 9 times out of 10, hit a stone rather than mortar and stop going forward.

So please help me spend my money (with the other half's blessing as we're through the major building work and now it's on to the internal DIY/decorating stuff that I do at her command wink ). Something that will make holes in stone.... rawlplug sized at least, it may be that the ability to run a proper hole saw through the wall would come in handy at some stage.

I'm guessing this lot doesn't start much below £100 and the budget is therefore reasonable - but not bottomless!

Thanks in advance guys smile

TheEnd

15,370 posts

204 months

Tuesday 11th November 2008
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Look for anything with a mini SDS chuck.

Failing that, Dynamite

TheEnd

15,370 posts

204 months

Tuesday 11th November 2008
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OK, scrub that, there isn't a mini SDS, only a normal one and a Maxi SDS

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1500W-SDS-KANGO-STYLE-DRILL-...

That will get through pretty much anything

WhoseGeneration

4,090 posts

223 months

Tuesday 11th November 2008
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Find out what the local builders use.
Then buy.
Only way.

Autonotiv

2,673 posts

240 months

Tuesday 11th November 2008
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SDS mate.

look on screwfix.

I can recomend the Bosch GBH2-26DRE £130 in SF

SamHH

5,062 posts

232 months

Tuesday 11th November 2008
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I asked a similar question previously:

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

I concur that an SDS drill is very good for masonry. According to Wikipedia there are sizes: SDS-plus, SDS-top and SDS-max. From what I learned when I was buying a drill, it seems that SDS-plus is the most common type for 'normal' drills, SDS-max is used for heavyweight drills and demolition hammers and I've never seen any tool that uses SDS-top.

I ended up with a Ryobi drill that was on offer for about £60 from Screwfix. It's very good with masonry. Bosch (the blue ones) and Makita are two brands that are usually rated highly, although they are amongst the most costly.

HTH

V12Les

3,985 posts

212 months

Tuesday 11th November 2008
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Should be able to get a good SDS drill for that money.Ryobi and Bosch would be plenty man enough. Plenty of deals going on at builders merchants at the moment. Buy quality drill bits to.
Tip: on hard stone drill a small hole first(5.5mm or so) then the size you require.

astroaracdia

1,720 posts

216 months

Tuesday 11th November 2008
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SDS Hammer drill is what you need. Generally you pay for what you get.

I use HILTI but Makita are a good all rounder.

I am a carpenter and live in a stone cottage in Gloucestershire and no doubt those walls are hard. Buy a decent drill bit also 6mm for red plugs. If you are hoping to go through stone walls with a hole saw or core bit you will be better off going to a hire shop and getting one for just the day.

A independent shop used by the local trade will give the best advice.




Edited by astroaracdia on Tuesday 11th November 19:54

DBSV8

5,958 posts

254 months

Tuesday 11th November 2008
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Have one of these it was cheap at 39,99 cant go wrong from Screwfix

have used it for two years still going strong used on solid stone ,



http://www.screwfix.com/prods/88854/Power-Tools/SD...


This is what it drilled through
18" solid stone


soprano

1,610 posts

216 months

Tuesday 11th November 2008
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defblade said:
Something that will make holes in stone....


scratchchin

defblade

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7,832 posts

229 months

Wednesday 12th November 2008
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soprano said:
defblade said:
Something that will make holes in stone....


scratchchin
Can you get a rawlplug to fit that? wink


Thanks guys, I'll ask our last lot of builders what they swear by (I know what they swear at - 3 ft thick Welsh stone walls!!).

Oh, and just to give to give you a flavour, this is what came out of the wall a couple of weeks back when we needed a fireplace moved 2 feet to the left:


defblade

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7,832 posts

229 months

Thursday 13th November 2008
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Went for this one:

http://www.screwfix.com/prods/30228/Power-Tools/SD...

So looking forward to being able to put shelves up wink

TheEnd

15,370 posts

204 months

Thursday 13th November 2008
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defblade said:
The anachronistic housebrick? biggrin

I'd say drilling something particularly hard is more due to the drill bit than the drill ( providing you have a hammer drill that is)

defblade

Original Poster:

7,832 posts

229 months

Thursday 13th November 2008
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I think maybe the builders brought taht one with them smile

This is one original bricks in the internal walls - we've eposed this one as it's the correct way round for reading the writing:



:Yes, we know it's the wrong way round for building a wall, all the internal walls we've had the plaster off were built like this! Anyhow, Glynea Co bricks went bust in 1923 (IIRC fromour research) so that gives a probable latest date for the wall.

jimmyb

12,254 posts

232 months

Thursday 13th November 2008
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defblade said:
Went for this one:

http://www.screwfix.com/prods/30228/Power-Tools/SD...

So looking forward to being able to put shelves up wink
Good choice. I have one of those though it came as part of a twin pack with a cordless battery drill as well with free bits etc for something like 80 quid.

Slaav

4,343 posts

226 months

Thursday 13th November 2008
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Just get a decent builder and don't listen to her whining..... smile

defblade

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7,832 posts

229 months

Tuesday 18th November 2008
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My new drill arrived today. smile










Discovered it will not only drill through plaster and stone, but also cold water pipes weepingbanghead

So that's been a fun couple of hours or so with the plumber......

northwest monkey

6,370 posts

205 months

Tuesday 18th November 2008
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defblade said:
My new drill arrived today. smile










Discovered it will not only drill through plaster and stone, but also cold water pipes weepingbanghead

So that's been a fun couple of hours or so with the plumber......
I can beat that. I was renovating a place a few years ago & there was a "weekend warrior" doing bits & bobs next door. Anyway he comes round asking to borrow a drill bit cos he was going to run power into his garage. I lent him a really long (1m) 15mm SDS bit. He didnt check what was on the other side of the wall & promptly drilled straight through the back of his brand new chavvy fridge freezer. By all accounts, I saw the funny side quicker than himbiggrin