Woman 91 dies following council eco bullsh!t
Woman 91 dies following council eco bullsh!t
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turbobloke

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Nobody You Know

8,422 posts

222 months

Thursday 15th January 2009
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Are council staffed and run by the worst people alive? It never stops amazing me how cretinus and awful they are.

funk odyssey

1,983 posts

258 months

Thursday 15th January 2009
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it's very unusual for 91 year olds to die isn't it?

you can do better than this rolleyes

turbobloke

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Thursday 15th January 2009
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funk odyssey said:
it's very unusual for 91 year olds to die isn't it?
Why not pass on your sentiments to the family directly? They'll appreciate it so much.





Bing o

15,184 posts

248 months

Thursday 15th January 2009
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It's in the Daily Mail, it must be true...

chris watton

22,547 posts

289 months

Thursday 15th January 2009
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There’s some quite telling posts on that forum from the US contributors, they seem to have got the current state of the UK weighed up better than the UK population!

from the forum;

"I guess I’m just too tired, but I don’t understand what the money she was forced to pay was supposed to go for. Was it to put in some insulation and weather-stripping, or a more efficient furnace? Or, was it just a super-tax levied on her (and the others) to pay for the invisible carbon...like a protection racket?"

"Well, there’s at least one human death caused by global warming"

"Lots of stupid stuff coming out of the UK these days."

"I wonder if the Brits force their Muslim population to comply with the same “green” socialist regs? < / rhetorical question
Nah, murdering sc*mbag green socialists only pick on defenseless frail 91 year old great grannies."







Edited by chris watton on Thursday 15th January 11:34

turbobloke

Original Poster:

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Thursday 15th January 2009
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Bing o said:
It's in the Daily Mail, it must be true...
It's everywhere, does that make it more true?

On a wider note, any more crass comments due? Anybody work for the council?

The focus so far from PH has largely been on me, and a newspaper, vulnerable people are forgotten and/or worthless and disposable?

Utterly pathetic comments, keep it up.

Puff Puff

23,205 posts

255 months

Thursday 15th January 2009
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Far to many holes in that report to make any sort of reasoned comment.

turbobloke

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Thursday 15th January 2009
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Puff Puff said:
Far to many holes in that report to make any sort of reasoned comment.
You bothered all the same. Thanks.

Munter

31,331 posts

270 months

Thursday 15th January 2009
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What I cant work out is what the money was for. The story you posted doesn't tell us that. So what was the council asking her for £16,000 for?

turbobloke

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Thursday 15th January 2009
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Munter said:
What I cant work out is what the money was for. The story you posted doesn't tell us that. So what was the council asking her for £16,000 for?
A family have expressed their fury after the death of their disabled 91-year-old mother who 'was forced to take out a second mortgage to foot an unnecessary £16,000 council bill

The family of bed-ridden grandmother Dorothy Hacking blame Thanet Council for 'disgusting treatment' after the pensioner became overstretched trying to pay for work to meet government regulations to reduce CO2 emissions. They say she was beset by stress and health problems after being left with no option but to take out a second mortgage for the stone-cladding repairs to make her home compliant with the Home Energy Conservation Act in Ramsgate, Kent.

Piersman2

6,676 posts

228 months

Thursday 15th January 2009
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I briefly read the report. My thought at the end was somwthing along the lines of why are the family all up in arms now after the old dear's popped it and the press are suddenly involved?

Why didn't the family get involved earlier and tell the council to poke their £16K?

Seemd to me that it could be the family thrashing around looking for someone to blame.. other than themselves of course!

Munter

31,331 posts

270 months

Thursday 15th January 2009
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turbobloke said:
Munter said:
What I cant work out is what the money was for. The story you posted doesn't tell us that. So what was the council asking her for £16,000 for?
A family have expressed their fury after the death of their disabled 91-year-old mother who 'was forced to take out a second mortgage to foot an unnecessary £16,000 council bill

The family of bed-ridden grandmother Dorothy Hacking blame Thanet Council for 'disgusting treatment' after the pensioner became overstretched trying to pay for work to meet government regulations to reduce CO2 emissions. They say she was beset by stress and health problems after being left with no option but to take out a second mortgage for the stone-cladding repairs to make her home compliant with the Home Energy Conservation Act in Ramsgate, Kent.
What so the council can walk up to my house and say "Thats not good enough, we're going to charge you £16,000"? I think not. They can offer me grants to encourage me to upgrade my property but I dont think we've yet got to the point where they can force people to spend money on anything but Tax.

Phil Dicky

7,194 posts

292 months

Thursday 15th January 2009
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chris watton said:
There’s some quite telling posts on that forum from the US contributors, they seem to have got the current state of the UK weighed up better than the UK population!

from the forum;

"I guess I’m just too tired, but I don’t understand what the money she was forced to pay was supposed to go for. Was it to put in some insulation and weather-stripping, or a more efficient furnace? Or, was it just a super-tax levied on her (and the others) to pay for the invisible carbon...like a protection racket?"

"Well, there’s at least one human death caused by global warming"

"Lots of stupid stuff coming out of the UK these days."

"I wonder if the Brits force their Muslim population to comply with the same “green” socialist regs? < / rhetorical question
Nah, murdering sc*mbag green socialists only pick on defenseless frail 91 year old great grannies."







Edited by chris watton on Thursday 15th January 11:34
Plus this one;

To: Free ThinkerNY
The UK is lost...not even a mere shadow of its former greatness.



14 posted on 15 January 2009 01:41:47 by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion)
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turbobloke

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Thursday 15th January 2009
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Munter said:
turbobloke said:
Munter said:
What I cant work out is what the money was for. The story you posted doesn't tell us that. So what was the council asking her for £16,000 for?
A family have expressed their fury after the death of their disabled 91-year-old mother who 'was forced to take out a second mortgage to foot an unnecessary £16,000 council bill

The family of bed-ridden grandmother Dorothy Hacking blame Thanet Council for 'disgusting treatment' after the pensioner became overstretched trying to pay for work to meet government regulations to reduce CO2 emissions. They say she was beset by stress and health problems after being left with no option but to take out a second mortgage for the stone-cladding repairs to make her home compliant with the Home Energy Conservation Act in Ramsgate, Kent.
What so the council can walk up to my house and say "Thats not good enough, we're going to charge you £16,000"? I think not.
You think wrong.

The council maintained the work was essential to comply with the Home Energy Conservation Act which requires it to reduce its CO2 emission by 30 per cent....

Problems started last year when council inspectors sent the £16,000 bill and an appeal to benefits agency the Department for Work and Pensions failed.

funk odyssey

1,983 posts

258 months

Thursday 15th January 2009
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turbobloke said:
Bing o said:
It's in the Daily Mail, it must be true...
It's everywhere, does that make it more true?

On a wider note, any more crass comments due? Anybody work for the council?

The focus so far from PH has largely been on me, and a newspaper, vulnerable people are forgotten and/or worthless and disposable?

Utterly pathetic comments, keep it up.
stop posting worthless links to support your paranoid fantasies then

Office_Monkey

1,969 posts

238 months

Thursday 15th January 2009
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The money was for insulation if I have read that correctly? About reducing carbon output by needing less heating.
Stress can seriously affect those much younger than this, and I can see how it would adversely affect the health of someone this age. Yes, 91 year olds die, but the stress caused by this IMO was a huge contributing factor.
What isn't clear is what steps were taken to help, if any, or whether someone at the council simply was "following orders to the letter" and taking the computer says no attitude that is becoming prevalent.

Munter

31,331 posts

270 months

Thursday 15th January 2009
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turbobloke said:
Munter said:
turbobloke said:
Munter said:
What I cant work out is what the money was for. The story you posted doesn't tell us that. So what was the council asking her for £16,000 for?
A family have expressed their fury after the death of their disabled 91-year-old mother who 'was forced to take out a second mortgage to foot an unnecessary £16,000 council bill

The family of bed-ridden grandmother Dorothy Hacking blame Thanet Council for 'disgusting treatment' after the pensioner became overstretched trying to pay for work to meet government regulations to reduce CO2 emissions. They say she was beset by stress and health problems after being left with no option but to take out a second mortgage for the stone-cladding repairs to make her home compliant with the Home Energy Conservation Act in Ramsgate, Kent.
What so the council can walk up to my house and say "Thats not good enough, we're going to charge you £16,000"? I think not.
You think wrong.

The council maintained the work was essential to comply with the Home Energy Conservation Act which requires it to reduce its CO2 emission by 30 per cent....

Problems started last year when council inspectors sent the £16,000 bill and an appeal to benefits agency the Department for Work and Pensions failed.
AH HA! I missed the link at the bottom of the story on that site to the full story.

She purchased the (former) council house under the right to buy scheme. Which included certain financial obligations into the future. This is one of them. This would be one of the reasons people got the houses cheap, like really cheap.

So no the council cant walk up to anybodys house. Just those purchased under the right to buy scheme. In which case the owners should have read the small print and been putting money aside for such occasions. She didn't put any money aside.....

turbobloke

Original Poster:

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Thursday 15th January 2009
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funk odyssey said:
turbobloke said:
Bing o said:
It's in the Daily Mail, it must be true...
It's everywhere, does that make it more true?

On a wider note, any more crass comments due? Anybody work for the council?

The focus so far from PH has largely been on me, and a newspaper, vulnerable people are forgotten and/or worthless and disposable?

Utterly pathetic comments, keep it up.
stop posting worthless links to support your paranoid fantasies then
I haven't started, but you're doing well - keep up the crass work you're looking fine.

Did you miss this (below)? Or are you just another deluded lentilist happy to support ecofascism?

The council maintained the work was essential to comply with the Home Energy Conservation Act which requires it to reduce its CO2 emission by 30 per cent....

Problems started last year when council inspectors sent the £16,000 bill and an appeal to benefits agency the Department for Work and Pensions failed.

What's worthless about this? The life of an edlerly woman?

turbobloke

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Thursday 15th January 2009
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Munter said:
the owners should have read the small print and been putting money aside for such occasions. She didn't put any money aside.....
That makes tax gas ecofascism perfectly OK then? As long as it's advertised?

There's no justification for the government Act or the council Policy in the first place, did that pass you by on your quest for excuses?