New Flying Scotsman Unveiled
Discussion
Magog said:
Looks stunning, quite a thought provoking repaint. Hopefully the NRM will use it to highlight the contribution that the railways and railwaymen made to the war effort.
Very short term livery unfortunately (it is driving some enthusiasts apoplectic). The Flying Scotsman brand is apple green, it's what people recognise (the general public) and that is who the NRM has to attract to recoup the funds and make the locomotive pay. Personally I preferred it in Brunswick Green with the German smoke deflectors.Total loss said:
Could somebody please briefly explain the need for the current restoration back to running condition. Wasn't it restored back to running condition back in the '90's ? Can't have worn out, was it a poor job before ?
It was bought by the NRM in 2004 and was run with repairs ongoing for a while before it came due for its 10 year boiler recertification, mainly to raise funds for the forthcoming renovation. It then went into the NRM's workshops in 2007 for a major overhaul. One nice thing is that it is now back using an A3 boiler, bot the A4 boiler it had been using since the 80's.The boilers need constant maintenance, especially the old ones. Even the boiler on Tornado has required extensive work and that is brand new. Add in the rest of the mechanical components and it becomes the norm to do a major overhaul at the same time as the 10 year boiler works, neither of which are cheap.
tractorguy said:
Wow!
I think it looks better in "Wartime" black.
Me too. Looking forward to seeing her on her old metals at the Great Central for running in. Yes I know she used to run on the ECML, but she ended her days with BR along with quite a few other A3's on the Great Central.I think it looks better in "Wartime" black.
Red Firecracker said:
Very short term livery unfortunately (it is driving some enthusiasts apoplectic). The Flying Scotsman brand is apple green, it's what people recognise (the general public) and that is who the NRM has to attract to recoup the funds and make the locomotive pay. Personally I preferred it in Brunswick Green with the German smoke deflectors.
That's a shame, though understandable. Would have been great if they could have done Mallard or the Duchess of Hamilton in the same livery though and put on an exhibition about wartime railways, I'm sure the controversy would've attracted a few extra visitors. I'll definitely have to try and make the effort to see her in black on one of her proving runs.
DaveR said:
The colour change was a bit of a surprise but not as big as the number change.
Where did 103 come from and what happened to 4472 ??
It's 502 on the other side & bufferbeam, which was its initial 1946 number.Where did 103 come from and what happened to 4472 ??
103 is the number 4472 carried later in 1946, post May to 1948. It became 60103 under BR.
So is this meant to be war-time black? The tender is marked NE not LNER so that would be pre-grouping (1921) but then she wasn't built until 1923 by which time it was the LNER. Also the number on the cab is 502 on one side and 103 on the other but surely she'd have been carrying 4472 during the war? I'm sure there's answeres to all these questions and more if I search the railway pages on google. 
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