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So I applied for an Account Managers job at adidas group last night at 5.30 ish, got an email this morning at 10ish to say i have been not been successful! I was a bit shocked as i have never had a "no" so fast! so I rang up to find out what it was (skillsets) that they felt i lacked (as this would be a good self development exercise), and to express my shock at how quickly they had decided against me (normally i get 1st interviews quite easily, and I have been an account manager in one way or the other for the last 7 years! so i have the experience)........but nothing unfortunately, they don't give feed back! 
how in hell's name is a person supposed to know which areas they need to work on if they dont even get any feedback? i do not have a problem with not getting picked for an interview (even!), i just don't know how you can decide so quickly that someone is unsuitable without having ever spoken or seen the person behind the CV in real life.
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how in hell's name is a person supposed to know which areas they need to work on if they dont even get any feedback? i do not have a problem with not getting picked for an interview (even!), i just don't know how you can decide so quickly that someone is unsuitable without having ever spoken or seen the person behind the CV in real life.
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Perhaps they have a quota of how many applicants they accept and anyone after that gets an automatic 'no'.
Given the amount of applicants they are likely to get (and not just them these days) it is quote possible.
I've heard of companies only looking at the first couple of dozen cv's and if there are a reasonable number of applicants they are likely to employ, everyone else gets filed in the grey wast bin.
Given the amount of applicants they are likely to get (and not just them these days) it is quote possible.
I've heard of companies only looking at the first couple of dozen cv's and if there are a reasonable number of applicants they are likely to employ, everyone else gets filed in the grey wast bin.
Jam Rock said:
So I applied for an Account Managers job at adidas group last night at 5.30 ish, got an email this morning at 10ish to say i have been not been successful! I was a bit shocked as i have never had a "no" so fast! so I rang up to find out what it was (skillsets) that they felt i lacked (as this would be a good self development exercise), and to express my shock at how quickly they had decided against me (normally i get 1st interviews quite easily, and I have been an account manager in one way or the other for the last 7 years! so i have the experience)........but nothing unfortunately, they don't give feed back!
how in hell's name is a person supposed to know which areas they need to work on if they dont even get any feedback? i do not have a problem with not getting picked for an interview (even!), i just don't know how you can decide so quickly that someone is unsuitable without having ever spoken or seen the person behind the CV in real life.
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Have you worked as an account manager for a clothing company before? Clothing manafacturers are VERY selective with recruitment.how in hell's name is a person supposed to know which areas they need to work on if they dont even get any feedback? i do not have a problem with not getting picked for an interview (even!), i just don't know how you can decide so quickly that someone is unsuitable without having ever spoken or seen the person behind the CV in real life.
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Koofler said:
I've heard of companies only looking at the first couple of dozen cv's and if there are a reasonable number of applicants they are likely to employ, everyone else gets filed in the grey wast bin.
The funniest thing I read a while ago was how someone did their short-listing...Phase 1
All nut-cases/optimists applying for wildly unsuited positions get discarded.
Phase 2
Any forms/letters with spelling mistakes get rejected.
Phase 3
Chuck 50% of the remaining ones away at random, thus stopping you employing anyone naturally unlucky.
Thankfully phases 1 and 2 have always left us with a suitably short short-list at work.
Always mystifies me how some employers can be so dismissive based on experience on your CV.
A good account manager is a good account manager - in much the same way that a good sales rep. is a good rep. no matter what the product.
I know I had issues breaking into food after a few years in non-food - I just got very quick rejections for everything I applied for.
A good account manager is a good account manager - in much the same way that a good sales rep. is a good rep. no matter what the product.
I know I had issues breaking into food after a few years in non-food - I just got very quick rejections for everything I applied for.
manic47 said:
The funniest thing I read a while ago was how someone did their short-listing...
Phase 1
All nut-cases/optimists applying for wildly unsuited positions get discarded.
Phase 2
Any forms/letters with spelling mistakes get rejected.
Phase 3
Chuck 50% of the remaining ones away at random, thus stopping you employing anyone naturally unlucky.
Thankfully phases 1 and 2 have always left us with a suitably short short-list at work.
My old boss always said that her first step was to go through and throw away all the ones written in blue ink, when the form had specifically asked for black.Phase 1
All nut-cases/optimists applying for wildly unsuited positions get discarded.
Phase 2
Any forms/letters with spelling mistakes get rejected.
Phase 3
Chuck 50% of the remaining ones away at random, thus stopping you employing anyone naturally unlucky.
Thankfully phases 1 and 2 have always left us with a suitably short short-list at work.
An easy way to reduce the numbers while doing away with applicants who can't follow simple instructions.
davepoth said:
If they have 20 people with experience managing sportswear accounts, and you, which would they choose?
I see your point - but they could be missing out on some really good talent, just because your experience is in a different sector.I worked for a non-food supplier to major retail multiples - when I applied for a job with a nigh-on identical job description, working for a national bread manufacturer, I got a rejection. Even though most of the contacts I'd made in the non-food job would have been just as useful for a bread supplier.
You get the same with retail area management - fashion retailers are incredibly picky about where they'll take people from - you can have years of experience as a food multiple area manager and they won't be interested.
manic47 said:
The funniest thing I read a while ago was how someone did their short-listing...
Phase 1
All nut-cases/optimists applying for wildly unsuited positions get discarded.
Phase 2
Any forms/letters with spelling mistakes get rejected.
Phase 3
Chuck 50% of the remaining ones away at random, thus stopping you employing anyone naturally unlucky.
Thankfully phases 1 and 2 have always left us with a suitably short short-list at work.
Phase 1
All nut-cases/optimists applying for wildly unsuited positions get discarded.
Phase 2
Any forms/letters with spelling mistakes get rejected.
Phase 3
Chuck 50% of the remaining ones away at random, thus stopping you employing anyone naturally unlucky.
Thankfully phases 1 and 2 have always left us with a suitably short short-list at work.
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