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SWoll

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146 months

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Bill Carr said:
SWoll said:
Agree with everything other than I thought Alien 3 and AvP were better movies than Prometheus.
I even prefer Alien Resurrection to Prometheus.
Don't really remember it that well TBH, but wouldn't be surprised.

Bill Carr

2,234 posts

122 months

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SWoll said:
Bill Carr said:
SWoll said:
Agree with everything other than I thought Alien 3 and AvP were better movies than Prometheus.
I even prefer Alien Resurrection to Prometheus.
Don't really remember it that well TBH, but wouldn't be surprised.
It's the worst Alien film by far IMHO, but for the most part it's enjoyable nonsense.

Prometheus is just toilet.

Guvernator

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53 months

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JonRB said:
Guvernator said:
All the exciting questions asked at the beginning of this film are either ignored completely or answered in such a stupid and irrelevant way that they might as well not have bothered.
Exactly how I felt about the two Matrix sequels too. yes
Lol too true, what a way to p*ss away a stunning first installment. To be honest though a lot of on screen sci-fi suffers from this problem. They come up with a brilliant idea\concept but then don't know how to conclude it properly. I wonder if they are just worried that they'll loose a huge number of their target audience if they make it too cerebral so go for the easy\dumbed down ending instead.

SWoll

5,055 posts

146 months

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Bill Carr said:
SWoll said:
Bill Carr said:
SWoll said:
Agree with everything other than I thought Alien 3 and AvP were better movies than Prometheus.
I even prefer Alien Resurrection to Prometheus.
Don't really remember it that well TBH, but wouldn't be surprised.
It's the worst Alien film by far IMHO, but for the most part it's enjoyable nonsense.

Prometheus is just toilet.
That confirms my recollection of it also. I've got the BR box set and its the only one I haven't bothered to re-watch.

otolith

26,666 posts

92 months

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Skii said:
Deleted scenes here

http://www.sockshare.com/file/B0B569A1F19AF2DB


The alternative Fifield attack scene is much better, I can't understand why they went with the zombie version.
By the way, that link left me with pop-unders with NSFW images and pages requiring an "OK" click of a dialog box to dismiss them - the kind of thing that smells of malware to me.
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JonRB

44,314 posts

160 months

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Guvernator said:
Lol too true, what a way to p*ss away a stunning first installment. To be honest though a lot of on screen sci-fi suffers from this problem. They come up with a brilliant idea\concept but then don't know how to conclude it properly. I wonder if they are just worried that they'll loose a huge number of their target audience if they make it too cerebral so go for the easy\dumbed down ending instead.
Indeed. When Neo takes out a Sentinel at the end of the 2nd film, I was convinced that they were going to play a very clever "dream within a dream" idea, and that he was still in the Matrix. Not dissimilar to the TV film "Virtual Nightmare" in which the protagonist learns that what he thinks of as reality is not, and then when he breaks through into the "real" world he finds that isn't real either and breaks through that too. Not unlike Inception that followed both years later, I guess.

Anyway, instead they just had a lame cop-out of "uh, The One can affect the Real World too" rolleyes

Also I hated the way they absolutely spoon-fed the audience that Agent Smith had broken through into the Real World.

Halb

23,716 posts

71 months

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I liked the real world idea. It was the natural evolution. The brain gives off signals, like a wifi box, so why shouldn't you control machines with those signal if you knew how. Thought it was ace. Plus a consciousness is just a bunch of signals so you could download yourself like Smith.
I know I may be in a minority here.biggrin

MysteryLemon

4,295 posts

79 months

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I'm watching this tonight. Was desperate to see it at the cinema but never got the chance.

By all accounts, I'm expecting it to be a bag of st so hopefully I will be pleasantly surprised...

Raify

6,502 posts

136 months

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Halb said:
I liked the real world idea. It was the natural evolution. The brain gives off signals, like a wifi box, so why shouldn't you control machines with those signal if you knew how. Thought it was ace. Plus a consciousness is just a bunch of signals so you could download yourself like Smith.
I know I may be in a minority here.biggrin
[Sticks fingers in ears] There are no Matrix sequels, there are no Matrix sequels, there are no Matrix sequels, there are no Matrix sequels.

JonRB

44,314 posts

160 months

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Raify said:
[Sticks fingers in ears] There are no Matrix sequels, there are no Matrix sequels, there are no Matrix sequels, there are no Matrix sequels.


Full version at http://xkcd.com/566/

Edited by JonRB on Friday 5th October 20:39

Pesty

31,065 posts

144 months

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MysteryLemon said:
I'm watching this tonight. Was desperate to see it at the cinema but never got the chance.

By all accounts, I'm expecting it to be a bag of st so hopefully I will be pleasantly surprised...
Get used to disappointment.

MysteryLemon

4,295 posts

79 months

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Just finished.

Not bad actually. Not really sure what your all moaning about. I enjoyed it!

It has faults if you sit there and pick at it but as a whole it works. I never felt lost or confused. All seemed to make sence to me.


DamienB

875 posts

107 months

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MysteryLemon said:
All seemed to make sence to me.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=sence

MysteryLemon

4,295 posts

79 months

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I wasn't going to bother replying but decided I didn't want some bellend finishing this topic moaning about a fking spelling mistake...

Halb

23,716 posts

71 months

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Pesty said:
Get used to disappointment.
Who are you?

Pesty

31,065 posts

144 months

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Halb said:
Pesty said:
Get used to disappointment.
Who are you?
No one of consequence

Bill Carr

2,234 posts

122 months

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MysteryLemon said:
It has faults if you sit there and pick at it but as a whole it works. I never felt lost or confused. All seemed to make sence to me.
Really? Woman gives birth to a squid? Using a machine she - by rights - has no idea how to use. Man turns into weird crab-zombie thing. Bloke decides - with no evidence whatsoever - that the goo they have discovered is a bio-weapon that will be used to destroy earth. Disc-shaped spacecraft manages to crash land perfectly upright so it can roll along creating a perfect situation of peril for our protaganists.

WTF? biggrin

It's not a complicated film, just a rubbish one.

MysteryLemon

4,295 posts

79 months

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Oh yeah there were plot holes if you want to pick it apart but I didnt feel I really needed to know why that stuff happened.

Lots of things happen in films just because they do. Its a SciFi movie. There are no rules.

I liked it.

DrTre

12,434 posts

120 months

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MysteryLemon said:
Oh yeah there were plot holes if you want to pick it apart but I didnt feel I really needed to know why that stuff happened.

Lots of things happen in films just because they do. Its a SciFi movie. There are no rules.

I liked it.
Not sure it needed to be picked apart at all, it simply fell apart of its own accord in front of my eyes.

I'm all for suspending disbelief, in fact I actively enjoy it and it's what films should do/encourage, but this one so jarringly misfired and so often it was like the Chuckle Brothers wrote it.

Glad you liked it though, each to their own.

magpie215

2,153 posts

77 months

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Bill Carr said:
Disc-shaped spacecraft manages to crash land perfectly upright so it can roll along creating a perfect situation of peril for our protaganists.
Oh come on that one is easy the flight gyro had been knocked of its gimbal and was operating 90 degrees from horizontal :-)
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