Suffering from paranoid schizophrenia...

Suffering from paranoid schizophrenia...

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Mr Roper

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13,019 posts

195 months

Monday 4th July 2011
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A brief background....

I took on a guy about 7 weeks ago....he's a nice enough chap, gets on with everyone etc. Almost immediately he starts taking the odd day off sick and his work progressed slowly, he put this down to a few problems at home etc. We're a good bunch so we give him the benefit of the doubt.

A couple of weeks back I told him he has one last chance to show that he can be relied on and has the aptitude for the job and to be fair he's been doing his part, albeit slowly.

However, today he comes into the office and clearly something is not right....he explains that he's paranoid by someone on the shop floor and needs to go. He's very shaken up and distressed. It's now he tells me that he suffers from PS and everything is connected.

I've taken him home and now I need to evaluate my position. Unfortunately I can't let him work in this environment, there are far too many dangers for someone who is not in total control. The risks are obvious and he excepts this.

Really feel gutted for the guy as we're his first employer for over 4 years and he loves working here. Before I was thinking he was taking the piss but now I know the real reason I really feel the guy.

Anyone else have similar experiences?




anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 4th July 2011
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Proceed with care. The employee may have a disability. Take professional advice before dispensing with his services. You may have to make reasonable adjustments to enable him to work.

m8rky

2,090 posts

160 months

Monday 4th July 2011
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Did he declare this at the interview?if it is so bad that he is classed as DDA he should have declared the condition.If it is not DDA but a pre existing condition he has a duty to declare it also,if he is on a trial period just get shot of him it will be best for everybody.

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 4th July 2011
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If the employee is disabled, his rights under the Equality Act do not depend upon him disclosing his disability before being hired. One of the features of mental illness is that its sufferers may be reluctant to disclose the illness.

m8rky

2,090 posts

160 months

Monday 4th July 2011
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Breadvan73 said:
If the employee is disabled, his rights under the Equality Act do not depend upon him disclosing his disability before being hired. One of the features of mental illness is that its sufferers may be reluctant to disclose the illness.
So how is an employer going to make reasonable adjustments to their work if they are not aware? Hopefully in this case due to the amount of absence incurred in such a short time after being employed the O/P can get rid of this burden on his business.

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 4th July 2011
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I perhaps expressed myself too concisely. The employee does not need to declare his disability when seeking a job. Once the employer does know of a disability, it may be necessary to make adjustments. The employer might, depending on circumstances, be able lawfully to end the employment, but the Act exists to counter the attutude that a disabled person should routinely be dispensed with as a burden.

c8bof

368 posts

166 months

Tuesday 5th July 2011
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m8rky said:
if he is on a trial period just get shot of him it will be best for everybody.
No offence, but I really hope you are not an employer. If an employee tells you about a medical condition which may be a disability, you really, really, don't get rid just because it's easier. If they have less than a year's service, they can still take you to a tribunal for unfair dismissal on discriminatory grounds, ie the Equalities Act and the DDA.

For the OP, I would get be involving occupational health straight away (with the person's permission) and also probably be looking for a report from the person's GP. Don't dismiss (yet) - what is the workplace that is so risky for this person? I think I'd also be seeking advice from somewhere like MIND or similar (sorry, I don't know the English mental health groups).

Pothole

34,367 posts

283 months

Tuesday 5th July 2011
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He ACCEPTS it, FFS!!! Why can I not find a good job when people like you don't even speak/write English!?

condor

8,837 posts

249 months

Tuesday 5th July 2011
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Pothole said:
He ACCEPTS it, FFS!!! Why can I not find a good job when people like you don't even speak/write English!?
Probably because it sounds about right, and the younger generation don't write much nowadays. Plus, spelling and reading aren't that important etc. etc.
I'd hazard a guess you can't get a job because you're over a certain age - like I am - try self-employment instead.

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 6th July 2011
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c8bof said:
If they have less than a year's service, they can still take you to a tribunal for unfair dismissal on discriminatory grounds, ie the Equalities Act and the DDA.
I agree with your comments, but add some points of detail. The DDA has been repealed, and replaced by the Equality Act 2010. A claim of unlawful discrimination under the Act is not the same as an unfair dismissal claim.

c8bof

368 posts

166 months

Wednesday 6th July 2011
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Breadvan73 said:
I agree with your comments, but add some points of detail. The DDA has been repealed, and replaced by the Equality Act 2010. A claim of unlawful discrimination under the Act is not the same as an unfair dismissal claim.
Thanks for this - I missed the EA coming in last year while in hospital and have never got round to a dedicated time spent considering it - coincidentally, that's what planned for the remainder of this week - we're helluva late with managers' training for this! So the DDA is completely replaced by the EA?

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 6th July 2011
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Yes, all of the previous anti discrimination Statutes have been repealed and the Equality Act now serves as a codification of discrimination law covering all of the protected categories.