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King Herald

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19,556 posts

101 months

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Sunday 24th July 2011 quote quote all
I lived in the Philippines from 1993 until 2002, then my wife and our (fairly new) daughter and I shipped out to England.

We stayed there for eight years, but found it got stagnant and stale, so we moved back to the Philippines just over a year ago.

Plans were to NOT buy a house or any land until we had been here at least a year, but you know how that goes…..

First thing to do was acquire some land. We were already renting a house in the area we knew we wanted to live, a guarded and fenced ‘secure’ subdivision called Timog Park, so we bought 300 square metres not 300 yards from our house. This cost the equivalent of about £20,000

Mum in law guarding the joint, just after the wall was built.



After a bit of a frustrating search around we engaged the services of an American contractor who had recently set up a business over there. We had a look at a couple of places he had already built, and we both liked his build quality and attitude.

Next was for me to design what we wanted to build, using Sketchup. This took many hours, as the wife and I went back and forth over what we wanted. I wanted a huge garage, no garden, she wanted a small carport and a huge garden. So, we agreed on a fairly large garage (6m x 8m), some garden, and a roof garden as well.

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An 8' wall was built around two sides of the property, as we found the 'secure' subdivision seemed to be lacking perimeter wall right where our land was, folk could walk in and out at will. confused

Oh well, this is the Philippines...

King Herald

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19,556 posts

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Sunday 24th July 2011 quote quote all
First things first, so to 'test out' the contractor and his local team, we decided to have the garage built first.

YES!!! biggrin

Digging began in earnest:



Steel bar was inserted:





Concrete was poured:



Concrete block started to pile up:



Higher:



And higher:





Then the walls were plastered, inside and out, with 1" of concrete:



Then the floor slab was poured, in four sections. That is a small bathroom in the corner. A PHer needs his creature comforts, you know:







Then things came to a halt on the garage, as up to now there was no electricity on site, everything was done by hand, and to build the roof welding was needed.

We were quite impressed with the speed and quality of what these guys were doing, even in blistering tropical heat, so we moved on to building the house....






King Herald

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They have an odd way of building in the Philippines. When you want to build a place, you have to pay an architect to design it, pump out the blueprints, and get them approved. Not a lot differently to the UK you may think, but in the PI once you have applied for the building permit you are allowed to start building, immediately.

I gave our architect my detailed drawings and let him loose to do his worst.....

Building started the same day, by digging a series of 1 metre square holes down to solid subsoil. These holes were filled with re-bar and concrete, and would be the bases of the 12 vertical concrete columns that run right up to the roof.

Between these they then dig more trenches, add more steel and lay concrete in them for the walls to be built on. Everything is criss crossed with 12mm re-bar vertically and diagonally, as we are in an earthquake zone.





Unfortunatly I was offshore for most of this bit, so I had to rely on the wife to take piccies.....









I have no idea how much steel goes into the finished house, but it is a lot/ The concrete blocks are hollow, but filled with concrete as they are laid. An odd way to build, but this is the way it is done.



I included several arty farty arches in the house, at my wifes request:





And we initially had a spiral staircase up to the roof, but this was binned after a couple of mistakes were made in the build....



And the pile of blocks grew higher:








King Herald

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And higher:



Stairs went in, again, all concrete, as termites or humidity eat most anything made of wood:



Don't forget to add loads of steel:



Electrical conduit runs inside the concrete floors:



Our niece having a look around. The workers luuurve having her there:



The top floor has now gone on. This area will be the roof garden eventually, with a 1 metre wall round it. We can sit up there and admire Pinatubo, the active volcano ten miles from our house...





This is the stairs to the top floor, concrete, for a change....:




Yesterday they started laying steel for the ground floor slab to go in:



They then poured it in. I say 'poured', but this concrete is not the sloppy mess you normally see over here, but carefully measured out and mixed to 3000psi standards. It has a 4" droop, whatever that means...





It is not too smooth, as there is still an inch or so of mix to go on when they lay the tiles. The house will have ceramic tiles throughout.

This was the state of affairs yesterday, so I will have to wait and see what develops.






rex

1,511 posts

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How much must that house weigh. I don't think I have ever seen a build with so much concrete apart from an underground bunker. The noise isolation will be fabulous. With so much thermal mass does the house remain at a fairly constant temperature or will you have AC fitted.


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jeff m

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I'm gonna need your neices cell phone numberbiggrin

Up near Clark then smile
Assume MIL is instructed to provide San Miguels every Fiday afternoon to the workers.

King Herald

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Sunday 24th July 2011 quote quote all
rex said:
How much must that house weigh. I don't think I have ever seen a build with so much concrete apart from an underground bunker. The noise isolation will be fabulous. With so much thermal mass does the house remain at a fairly constant temperature or will you have AC fitted.
Most modern buildings are built very much the same way in these parts of the world. We built it with minimal windows, keep noise and heat out, coolness in.

Hopefully it will be fairly thermal steady, but we will have air-con in most rooms, just in case.....

jeff m said:
I'm gonna need your neices cell phone numberbiggrin

Up near Clark then smile
Assume MIL is instructed to provide San Miguels every Fiday afternoon to the workers.
Funny you should say that, Friday afternoon is known as SMB: San Miguel Ber. hehe Their boss buys a couple of cases, put's 'em on ice, my wife buys a half dozen lechon manok, and we go down the site and gasbag for an hour or two.

The sweet young niece is on a couple of dating sites already, but no luck yet. :-(

It is absolute hell for me when she wanders around the house in skimpy little shorts and tight t shirts......

E31Shrew

5,222 posts

77 months

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Monday 25th July 2011 quote quote all
Exciting times! What do you reckon the build cost will be excluding facilities eg A/C?

SimonV8ster

7,471 posts

113 months

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Monday 25th July 2011 quote quote all
I was in Thailand when there was some building work being done behind the hotel I was staying.

All construction being done wearing flip flops, bamboo used for for holding up floors etc !!

King Herald

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19,556 posts

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Monday 25th July 2011 quote quote all
Cost for the house build, including wiring, roof, tiles, windows, doors, paint etc is approx £40,000 ($60,000) The garage is about £7000, including the bathroom, tin roof, mahogany doors etc.

SimonV8ster said:
I was in Thailand when there was some building work being done behind the hotel I was staying.

All construction being done wearing flip flops, bamboo used for for holding up floors etc !!
Yes, they have all the safest stuff in Asia. hehe

Something to get the PH flavour back into the thread. This is my 28 Model A hot rod project, which is desperately in need of the bigger garage:




Busa mav

1,459 posts

39 months

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Monday 25th July 2011 quote quote all
I wondered if you were going to adorne this garage with one of those spedeworth type stock cars biggrin

Vron

2,068 posts

94 months

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Monday 25th July 2011 quote quote all
SimonV8ster said:
I was in Thailand when there was some building work being done behind the hotel I was staying.

All construction being done wearing flip flops, bamboo used for for holding up floors etc !!
I watched some polish builders put an extension on the house opposite me a few years ago and to my horror they leapt around the 'scaffolding' with toe post plastic flip flops on!!

swiftpete

1,768 posts

78 months

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Monday 25th July 2011 quote quote all
I just came back from the philippines and everyone doing construction work wears safety flops. I couldn't watch one lad using a pick axe to excavate something inches from his unprotected toes, I had to look the other way. Should be a sweet house when it's done, where is it then?

King Herald

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swiftpete said:
I just came back from the philippines and everyone doing construction work wears safety flops. I couldn't watch one lad using a pick axe to excavate something inches from his unprotected toes, I had to look the other way. Should be a sweet house when it's done, where is it then?
It's in Angeles city.

The day before I flew out for work one of the guys dropped a length of wooden 'scaffolding' on his toes, so now his foot is swollen, purple, and he has to sit and pull nails out of 'scaffolding', and such chores, as he can't really walk.

My wife gave him a rocketing, a real telling off, as she has told them before they should at least wear some sort of covered shoe.

I'll buy 'em a pair of Crocs each, when I get back, as you can get them for less than a quid a pair in the PI. biggrin

King Herald

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The builders have started work on the centre walls for the roof top rooms, plus laid the base for the perimeter walls. The architect has turned out to be a total flake and doesn't seem to be able to draw the roof for us. He has had all his fee already, so obviously feels he has no need to do anything more. Just the sort of thing I expected. So, I guess I'll have to break out the Sketchup once again and design the trusses etc.










King Herald

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Most of the rendering has been done downstairs and they are starting to move to the second floor.

The place looks more like a church than a house... yikes Should go down a bundle in the uber-catholic Philippines.










Davel

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143 months

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Looks really exciting - keep it coming!

SimonV8ster

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Just read an article in a 'homes abroad' type magazine saying that you can buy new apartments in the Philippines starting from 10K ??

I looked at the property developers they mentioned (century-properties) but could find no prices on their site.

Any truth that you could buy something as new as that in the Philippines ?

King Herald

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£10K? You could buy a place for that, but it won't be in some lucrative resort or anything like that.

Our whole project, land, garage and house, will end up in the region of £80k, so you will find you can buy a small basic condominium/apartment for £10k. And bearing in mind Angeles is one of the most expensive areas in the country, you'll get better value for money further off the beaten track for that price.

Foreigners can't own land in the PI, but condos are okay.

Do a Google for 'condominiums Angeles - Cebu - Subic' or something like that.


Dave_ST220

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Is that a cable snaking its way to sockets?!!!
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