Contract dispute...
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Right, I have taken 20 days holiday the last 3 years as that is what everyone else did. I looked at my contract last week and it shows 21 days is my entitlement so I booked the extra day.
I have now been told I cannot take that day as it is a mistake. I have argued that it is my legal entitlement and that I would be taking it.
I have made an appointment to see a mortgage advisor which I would not normally be able to do as I work during building society opening hours.
I am not prepared to back down as this appointment means a lot to me. Their reasons for not letting me take it 'I have read your letter of confirmation of employment and it states 20 days, only 9 people have more than 20 days and they have worked here more than 10 years, I will have a riot on my hands if I let you take it'...
Where do I stand? I need out of here as I have been messed about for 7 months on several different topics and I am just getting fed up
I have now been told I cannot take that day as it is a mistake. I have argued that it is my legal entitlement and that I would be taking it.
I have made an appointment to see a mortgage advisor which I would not normally be able to do as I work during building society opening hours.
I am not prepared to back down as this appointment means a lot to me. Their reasons for not letting me take it 'I have read your letter of confirmation of employment and it states 20 days, only 9 people have more than 20 days and they have worked here more than 10 years, I will have a riot on my hands if I let you take it'...
Where do I stand? I need out of here as I have been messed about for 7 months on several different topics and I am just getting fed up
See I was thinking of just walking out for the appointment and coming back, but I also have 2 people due to view our car on Friday as I am selling it. I spoke to them and told them I was off on Friday as I booked it last week and have only been told no this morning.
There has been a lot of problems for me this year at work and I cannot believe they have the cheek to be so petty.
There has been a lot of problems for me this year at work and I cannot believe they have the cheek to be so petty.
Surely if it's in your contract which you have both signed then that's what it is!?
If that's not the case, can you not take it as un paid?
Or, rearrange and pull a sicky. (For the record, I've not had a day off sick since I've been working... 7 years!) But in this case, they're being arses.
If that's not the case, can you not take it as un paid?
Or, rearrange and pull a sicky. (For the record, I've not had a day off sick since I've been working... 7 years!) But in this case, they're being arses.
I don't want to have to take it unpaid. I have been so soft and weak this year and they have walked all over me. I kind of want to make a stand. Nobody else in this place would back down, so I don't see why I should.
It is in my contract and they are saying 'Well it is a mistake, we have checked your confirmation of employment letter and it states 20 days'
I replied 'but that isn't signed by me or you and isn't a legally binding document, my SIGNED contract is'
Still trying to make excuses!
It is in my contract and they are saying 'Well it is a mistake, we have checked your confirmation of employment letter and it states 20 days'
I replied 'but that isn't signed by me or you and isn't a legally binding document, my SIGNED contract is'
Still trying to make excuses!
Donatello said:
I don't want to have to take it unpaid. I have been so soft and weak this year and they have walked all over me. I kind of want to make a stand. Nobody else in this place would back down, so I don't see why I should.
It is in my contract and they are saying 'Well it is a mistake, we have checked your confirmation of employment letter and it states 20 days'
I replied 'but that isn't signed by me or you and isn't a legally binding document, my SIGNED contract is'
Still trying to make excuses!
If its on the contract signed by them (and you) then its official. If my employer turned round and said it was a mistake, I'd tell them where to go. Their HR department should be questioned, not you. It is in my contract and they are saying 'Well it is a mistake, we have checked your confirmation of employment letter and it states 20 days'
I replied 'but that isn't signed by me or you and isn't a legally binding document, my SIGNED contract is'
Still trying to make excuses!
Just don't go in that day, see what happens. If they fire you, you have a case.
illmonkey said:
If its on the contract signed by them (and you) then its official. If my employer turned round and said it was a mistake, I'd tell them where to go. Their HR department should be questioned, not you.
Just don't go in that day, see what happens. If they fire you, you have a case.
So you think I should just not come in and if something happens then I can dispute it and take it further?Just don't go in that day, see what happens. If they fire you, you have a case.
Just spoke to CAB and they gave me lots of useful information regarding my work situation since February. Seems I have been very unfairly treated and am entitled to quite a few things including back dated payrise
Donatello said:
illmonkey said:
If its on the contract signed by them (and you) then its official. If my employer turned round and said it was a mistake, I'd tell them where to go. Their HR department should be questioned, not you.
Just don't go in that day, see what happens. If they fire you, you have a case.
So you think I should just not come in and if something happens then I can dispute it and take it further?Just don't go in that day, see what happens. If they fire you, you have a case.
Just spoke to CAB and they gave me lots of useful information regarding my work situation since February. Seems I have been very unfairly treated and am entitled to quite a few things including back dated payrise
okgo said:
What a bunch of t
ts.
20 days holiday?! I thought the minimum was 25 or something?
ts.20 days holiday?! I thought the minimum was 25 or something?
Gov website said:
you are entitled to a minimum of 5.6 weeks paid annual leave - 28 days for someone working five days a week (capped at a statutory maximum of 28 days for all working patterns)
Gov website said:
You do not have a statutory right to paid leave on bank and public holidays. If your employer gives paid leave on a bank or public holiday, this can count towards your minimum holiday entitlement. There are eight permanent bank and public holidays in England and Wales (nine in Scotland and ten in Northern Ireland)
So, 20 is the minimum, if you get all bank holidays off.okgo said:
Christ, so 28 days plus all bank holidays and what not is bloody good going then?
Very!I started on 20 (+BH's) and get 1 extra day for a FULL year working here. If you started in Feb, you've got to wait 22 months to get the 1st extra day. You MUST complete a FULL calendar year...
okgo said:
Christ, so 28 days plus all bank holidays and what not is bloody good going then?
I get 35+ and bank holidays. They gave me one extra last year (similar to the op) I approached HR, my line manager & a director about it and all 3 pretty much stated "our mistake, but take it anyway"Op I would just take it. Its in your contract.
If you both sign on the dotted line then it's a done deal. You can't back out of it unless the other agrees and changes the contract between you.
Seems like a fault on the other party for not checking the document they typed and wanted you to sign. It's only a day off (that your contractually entitled to); you haven't killed anyone.
Seems like a fault on the other party for not checking the document they typed and wanted you to sign. It's only a day off (that your contractually entitled to); you haven't killed anyone.
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