Labour to cut Tuition Fees...

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davepoth

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29,395 posts

199 months

Saturday 24th September 2011
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...to a maximum of £6000. They will fund this by canceling a corporation tax cut, and by charging extra interest to the highest earning graduates.

Thoughts?

shirt

22,546 posts

201 months

Saturday 24th September 2011
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this being the same labour party who ended grants and introduced loans and fees, whilst at the same time lowering university standards through 'access for all'.


turbobloke

103,877 posts

260 months

Saturday 24th September 2011
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Weren't they supposed to be against cuts wink

davepoth

Original Poster:

29,395 posts

199 months

Saturday 24th September 2011
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I find it interesting that to "differentiate" themselves from the current government they are not suggesting dropping fees back to the previous level - a tacit admission that in fact the current government's stance on the issue, in that the fees need to be much higher to be sustainable, is correct. They've also done away with the concept of a student tax.


Engineer1

10,486 posts

209 months

Saturday 24th September 2011
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No Labour are buying votes again, students will vote for lower fees even if the country ends up so fked they can't get a job after uni. Add in that a lot of parents will vote on this as well especially those who feel let down by the liberals who haven't stood up to the nasty Torys and we could see a labour government fking up the country again at the next election.

bobbylondonuk

2,198 posts

190 months

Saturday 24th September 2011
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ha ha...what a bunch of jokers!

drop max fees by 3k to win votes from students and parents.......vote buying
fund it by higher corp taxes?........lower incentive for economic success
charge higher interest from more successful candidates?......here we go again...if you are smart and hard working, you are a moron!

whoami

13,151 posts

240 months

Saturday 24th September 2011
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davepoth said:
...to a maximum of £6000. They will fund this by canceling a corporation tax cut, and by charging extra interest to the highest earning graduates.

Thoughts?
They are not in a position to cut anything so it's just propaganda.

odyssey2200

18,650 posts

209 months

Saturday 24th September 2011
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whoami said:
davepoth said:
...to a maximum of £6000. They will fund this by canceling a corporation tax cut, and by charging extra interest to the highest earning graduates.

Thoughts?
They are not in a position to cut anything so it's just propaganda.
And I hope and pray that they never are ever again.

hesnotthemessiah

2,121 posts

204 months

Saturday 24th September 2011
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As suggested above. They can say what they like. Matters not a jot.

Einion Yrth

19,575 posts

244 months

Saturday 24th September 2011
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odyssey2200 said:
And I hope and pray that they never are ever again.
While I concur with the sentiment you would have to be either very young or very blind not to realise that the f|_|ckers will be back to shaft us all again some time soon.

bobbylondonuk

2,198 posts

190 months

Saturday 24th September 2011
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Einion Yrth said:
While I concur with the sentiment you would have to be either very young or very blind not to realise that the f|_|ckers will be back to shaft us all again some time soon.
I actually agree with you...with the pain we are all going through...the offer of free st like before is too hard to resist. Very good game plan!

odyssey2200

18,650 posts

209 months

Saturday 24th September 2011
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Einion Yrth said:
odyssey2200 said:
And I hope and pray that they never are ever again.
While I concur with the sentiment you would have to be either very young or very blind not to realise that the f|_|ckers will be back to shaft us all again some time soon.
Not with my Vote, they won't.

whoami

13,151 posts

240 months

Saturday 24th September 2011
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odyssey2200 said:
whoami said:
davepoth said:
...to a maximum of £6000. They will fund this by canceling a corporation tax cut, and by charging extra interest to the highest earning graduates.

Thoughts?
They are not in a position to cut anything so it's just propaganda.
And I hope and pray that they never are ever again.
Amen.


chrisispringles

893 posts

165 months

Saturday 24th September 2011
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bks to'em. I'm not unduly fussed about paying £9k a year tuition fees if it means I can enter the career I am aiming for and do well for myself. A cut of a £3k a year on the tuition fees and then being lumbered with an extra graduate tax for life, if I'm successful, on top of all the other taxes I will have to pay really does not appeal.

NoNeed

15,137 posts

200 months

Saturday 24th September 2011
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So not only did they introduce them, they would have doubled them to six thousand pounds!! They didn't mention this a few months ago.

cymtriks

4,560 posts

245 months

Saturday 24th September 2011
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They could easily afford to cut the fees to zero and reinstate grants if they stopped sending kids to do degrees that neither the kids nor the nation benefit from.

Circa 3% go to uni.
Paid for by grants.

It worked before but of course they can't possibly admit that this was better and how would they hide youth unemployment and what about gloating about how much standards have improved....

Oh well.

Use Psychology

11,327 posts

192 months

Saturday 24th September 2011
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It is not very sound to charge differing amounts for the same education depending on your income.

davepoth

Original Poster:

29,395 posts

199 months

Saturday 24th September 2011
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cymtriks said:
They could easily afford to cut the fees to zero and reinstate grants if they stopped sending kids to do degrees that neither the kids nor the nation benefit from.

Circa 3% go to uni.
Paid for by grants.

It worked before but of course they can't possibly admit that this was better and how would they hide youth unemployment and what about gloating about how much standards have improved....

Oh well.
It's what the current government are doing by stealth; They can't just come out and say "we're reducing the number of degrees by 90%", but if they reduce the number of people applying, there will be no need for the courses, which will wither of their own accord. I just hope they'll get the technical colleges and apprenticeships in place to take up the slack.

MiniMan64

16,904 posts

190 months

Saturday 24th September 2011
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whoami said:
davepoth said:
...to a maximum of £6000. They will fund this by canceling a corporation tax cut, and by charging extra interest to the highest earning graduates.

Thoughts?
They are not in a position to cut anything so it's just propaganda.
Except that that "propaganda" might get them back into a position where they can.

EDLT

15,421 posts

206 months

Saturday 24th September 2011
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turbobloke said:
Weren't they supposed to be against cuts wink
A question nobody from the Labour party could answer on the daily politics a couple of day ago:

"According to [I forget the name of the statistic collectors] total public spending this year fell by 0.7%, is that too far too fast?"