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I reckon Strava has had complaints about a certain rider cheating and claiming a load of KOMS.
I got an email last week about a lost KOM I had that I'd set up myself,this is not a regular used road near me and I was only 1 of 14 over a 3/4 mile route..I lead by about 6 seconds..only reason being I set it up and I pedalled as if my life depended on it to get it.
I was surprised to see I'd been beat by 10 seconds by this rider...I looked at his recent achievements and was surprised he had a load of KOMS all in the same area,Beating very fast riders on established routes by silly times.
Do you think this guys gone out on a motorbike as when I looked the week later..all his rides were gone and I was reinserted as KOM..Can Strava identify cheats or uphold complaints I wonder.
I got an email last week about a lost KOM I had that I'd set up myself,this is not a regular used road near me and I was only 1 of 14 over a 3/4 mile route..I lead by about 6 seconds..only reason being I set it up and I pedalled as if my life depended on it to get it.
I was surprised to see I'd been beat by 10 seconds by this rider...I looked at his recent achievements and was surprised he had a load of KOMS all in the same area,Beating very fast riders on established routes by silly times.
Do you think this guys gone out on a motorbike as when I looked the week later..all his rides were gone and I was reinserted as KOM..Can Strava identify cheats or uphold complaints I wonder.
I got my first KOM today 
I'm flipping extatic about it!
Its one of those short ones you are all discussing.. But I've ridden it every commute I've done trying to beat it.. Made harder by the fact its 14mles into my commute.. Just over half way lol
0.3 km ... 37.3km/hr avg 55.4km/hr peak and completed in 31 secs.
1sec faster than the prev KOM holder
chuffed to bits
I'm flipping extatic about it!Its one of those short ones you are all discussing.. But I've ridden it every commute I've done trying to beat it.. Made harder by the fact its 14mles into my commute.. Just over half way lol
0.3 km ... 37.3km/hr avg 55.4km/hr peak and completed in 31 secs.
1sec faster than the prev KOM holder
chuffed to bitsGrandfondo said:
I don't know about you guys but I have a few loops I do regularly 30,40,50 miles time dependent and I now know where most of the segments are and I use these to gauge how my fitness is coming along so sometimes there will be extra effort in certain segments.
Is that not the point of Strava?
My most regular route is a loop of around 28 to 35 miles (dependent upon the little tweaks I can add). I'll be damned if I can remember where more than three of the segments start or finish. Two of the three are climbs which start and finish at/near junctions, and the third is a very brief (9 seconds for me, 7 seconds for the KOM) 'speed trap' at the bottom of a hill. The rest of the ride? I certainly know there are segments on it, but I can't for the life of me remember where they all start and finish. Memory is not what it once was, you see Is that not the point of Strava?
Just before my 'enforced break' I was beginning to explore some different areas/roads, and that is a massive breath of fresh air, riding new segments 'blind' with no expectation of even a 'PR' on the first run out. It allowed me to "just ride" and not worry about Strava data, at least until I got home and plugged the damned thing in. Worryingly, I'm still 'dead last' on a segment I only road once, and it's a downhill too, but in my defense, I did stop to take pictures of the view from near the top
Deanno1dad said:
...Can Strava identify cheats or uphold complaints I wonder.
I'm not going to bore you all with another tale of my 'off' in Feb, but suffice to say that after the collision, the Garmin was still running. I went to hospital under blue lights, but the bike kindly got taken home by Hampshire Police. When I uploaded the ride data, within minutes Strava (or at least a disgruntled Strava user) had flagged my ride, and wouldn't let it stand until I cropped out the 'motor assisted' suspicious segments. Once I'd cropped it back to just what I'd ridden myself, it was uploaded just fine. So yes, you can flag a ride if you think it's suspicious. Then I think it gets looked at at Strava HQ and the rider then gets a chance to either defend their honour, or correct their mistakeMy one and only KoM was on a ride that if you looked at it, you'd maybe think, bah short ride targeting a segment; I was running errands from work and had to close the business to do so, into town to two banks, drop off an invoice and then back to work.
Being away means closing and I always wonder if I'm missing some business, also knowing I've not got to conserve anything means I tend to go full bore everywhere. So on a slight downhill I did 30.4 (MpH avg) compared to previous KoM of 27.2 knocking 6 seconds off a half mile segment.
That was 3 weeks ago I only noticed yesterday.
Try not to read too much into other people's rides eh?
Being away means closing and I always wonder if I'm missing some business, also knowing I've not got to conserve anything means I tend to go full bore everywhere. So on a slight downhill I did 30.4 (MpH avg) compared to previous KoM of 27.2 knocking 6 seconds off a half mile segment.
That was 3 weeks ago I only noticed yesterday.
Try not to read too much into other people's rides eh?
I have a couple of CR for running and none for cycling as I'm not fast enough yet..
You can flag certain rides/runs to the Strava police, I lost one of my CR when someone cycled the route, flagged it and then I was reinstated again.
I'm new to the forum and would like to say I love competing on the different segments some of which I go flat out for, I'm no where near getting to the top yet but it's great to gauge how I compare against out and out cyclists. Some incredible riders out there and it can be kind of inspiring to see what other can achieve.
You can flag certain rides/runs to the Strava police, I lost one of my CR when someone cycled the route, flagged it and then I was reinstated again.
I'm new to the forum and would like to say I love competing on the different segments some of which I go flat out for, I'm no where near getting to the top yet but it's great to gauge how I compare against out and out cyclists. Some incredible riders out there and it can be kind of inspiring to see what other can achieve.
lepetitoeuf said:
Grandfondo said:
I don't know about you guys but I have a few loops I do regularly 30,40,50 miles time dependant and I now know where most of the segments are and I use these to gauge how my fitness is coming along so sometimes there will be extra effort in certain segments.
Is that not the point of Strava?
Nope, it's just one of the uses. Is that not the point of Strava?
Segments like 'Tour de Richmond Park' demonstrate that one of the other uses of Strava, is racing other people.
Niki Terpstra's winning ride
http://www.strava.com/activities/130432764
I love how he clearly didn't just sit up in the velodrome
http://www.strava.com/activities/130432764
I love how he clearly didn't just sit up in the velodrome
lepetitoeuf said:
Nope, it's just one of the uses.
Segments like 'Tour de Richmond Park' demonstrate that one of the other uses of Strava, is racing other people.
Regarding Richmond Park:Segments like 'Tour de Richmond Park' demonstrate that one of the other uses of Strava, is racing other people.
Can you explain why the "Broomfield Hill" segment of Strava is flagged as dangerous due to it being a downhill section?
BUT "Broomfield Hill Wood to Cafe" is considered fine, even though it is a continuation of the above, and then crosses a roundabout before carrying on?
Currently 15/15000 for that segment and my rule is no drafting.
HowMuchLonger said:
Regarding Richmond Park:
Can you explain why the "Broomfield Hill" segment of Strava is flagged as dangerous due to it being a downhill section?
BUT "Broomfield Hill Wood to Cafe" is considered fine, even though it is a continuation of the above, and then crosses a roundabout before carrying on?
Currently 15/15000 for that segment and my rule is no drafting.
People create endless segments until they don't get flagged, Richmond Park is frankly a joke, so much so, when you go and do 5 laps it takes about 20 mins to upload as it cannot cope with the sheer number of segments.Can you explain why the "Broomfield Hill" segment of Strava is flagged as dangerous due to it being a downhill section?
BUT "Broomfield Hill Wood to Cafe" is considered fine, even though it is a continuation of the above, and then crosses a roundabout before carrying on?
Currently 15/15000 for that segment and my rule is no drafting.
okgo said:
HowMuchLonger said:
Regarding Richmond Park:
Can you explain why the "Broomfield Hill" segment of Strava is flagged as dangerous due to it being a downhill section?
BUT "Broomfield Hill Wood to Cafe" is considered fine, even though it is a continuation of the above, and then crosses a roundabout before carrying on?
Currently 15/15000 for that segment and my rule is no drafting.
People create endless segments until they don't get flagged, Richmond Park is frankly a joke, so much so, when you go and do 5 laps it takes about 20 mins to upload as it cannot cope with the sheer number of segments.Can you explain why the "Broomfield Hill" segment of Strava is flagged as dangerous due to it being a downhill section?
BUT "Broomfield Hill Wood to Cafe" is considered fine, even though it is a continuation of the above, and then crosses a roundabout before carrying on?
Currently 15/15000 for that segment and my rule is no drafting.
Deanno1dad said:
I reckon Strava has had complaints about a certain rider cheating and claiming a load of KOMS.
I got an email last week about a lost KOM I had that I'd set up myself,this is not a regular used road near me and I was only 1 of 14 over a 3/4 mile route..I lead by about 6 seconds..only reason being I set it up and I pedalled as if my life depended on it to get it.
I was surprised to see I'd been beat by 10 seconds by this rider...I looked at his recent achievements and was surprised he had a load of KOMS all in the same area,Beating very fast riders on established routes by silly times.
Do you think this guys gone out on a motorbike as when I looked the week later..all his rides were gone and I was reinserted as KOM..Can Strava identify cheats or uphold complaints I wonder.
Either motorbike/car or that "digital epo" website which can edit your gps record to give whatever boost you want. Hence you can't trust any strava times, and comparing against yourself on previous rides is the only thing that really matters.I got an email last week about a lost KOM I had that I'd set up myself,this is not a regular used road near me and I was only 1 of 14 over a 3/4 mile route..I lead by about 6 seconds..only reason being I set it up and I pedalled as if my life depended on it to get it.
I was surprised to see I'd been beat by 10 seconds by this rider...I looked at his recent achievements and was surprised he had a load of KOMS all in the same area,Beating very fast riders on established routes by silly times.
Do you think this guys gone out on a motorbike as when I looked the week later..all his rides were gone and I was reinserted as KOM..Can Strava identify cheats or uphold complaints I wonder.
On the 13th April...
Today, my son snuck out for a ride whilst I was at Kew Gardens with the wife. The cheeky blighter has gone and nicked one of my KOMs, the one he has been targeting for a while. Beaten by second, or 0.5 mph. I've now GOT to get fit, so I can get back on the bike, get out there, and steal it back. Mwooohahahaha!!!
yellowjack said:
...I had 6 KOMs. Now I have 5. The next time my son goes for a ride, provided it's not thick with dog walkers, I reckon he'll nick another from me. I joked earlier about sabotaging either him, or his bike, but if he beats me, I'll log in and click "give kudos", and be pleased that he wants to ride, as I wish my eldest still did...
Well. It wasn't the 'next' ride. It was the one after that Today, my son snuck out for a ride whilst I was at Kew Gardens with the wife. The cheeky blighter has gone and nicked one of my KOMs, the one he has been targeting for a while. Beaten by second, or 0.5 mph. I've now GOT to get fit, so I can get back on the bike, get out there, and steal it back. Mwooohahahaha!!!
Just had this ride... http://www.strava.com/activities/91629061/analysis ..."flagged" 
Can anyone have a quick look and give me some idea why it may have attracted such attention?
A quick look at it doesn't reveal anything obviously out of place. I'll admit that the KOM bit was a deliberate 'hunt', but I wrapped it up in a 'proper' ride that I was planning anyway, and I wasn't aware of a "no segment snatching" rule anyway???
I hit "request support review" as the option to sort it, but kept getting "There was an unexpected error requesting support. Please try again." as the repeated reply.
This...
"Seriously? I need to explain that?
Take a look at the trace, and ask yourself which part it's being flagged for. I can't see it. I'd pull it immediately if I thought it were at all dubious, but it simply isn't. It's stood for the last (almost) six months without any complaint.
Question? Do you think it's possible that the previous holder of a certain KOM segment is a fair weather rider who has only just hauled his bike out of winter storage and is upset that 'his' KOM has disappeared?
There is no other conceivable reason to flag that ride over that route. The bulk of that route I ride often, and you'll see, if you check my data, that it's pretty much a 'normal' ride for me.
Whoever 'flagged' that ride needs to grit his teeth, take a good long swig of "Rule #5" and try harder. Or take up embroidery, as an alternative to cycling.
<"Waaaah! Waaaah! It's not fair, he stole my KOM!"> was not, as far as I was aware, what Strava's 'flag ride' option was invented for.
Thank you for considering my 'appeal' against this wholly unjustified ATTACK ON MY INTEGRITY!
The only thing wrong with that ride data is that the first part of that ride, ie: before the KOM segment, is missing due to my Garmin switching itself off in a rain shower. I restarted the Garmin just before that KOM segment, and the rest of the data is plainly FINE."
...is what I wrote in response, but Strava won't let me submit it. I therefore hit the "trust me, the data is fine" button, and got a "this Flag is resolved" message.
Question? Can whoever flagged it try again, or is it now done and dusted? I'm really not that bothered about the stupid KOM. I lost one to my own son just today (see post above). It's the challenge to my integrity that I object to. Strenuously.
Can anyone have a quick look and give me some idea why it may have attracted such attention?
A quick look at it doesn't reveal anything obviously out of place. I'll admit that the KOM bit was a deliberate 'hunt', but I wrapped it up in a 'proper' ride that I was planning anyway, and I wasn't aware of a "no segment snatching" rule anyway???
I hit "request support review" as the option to sort it, but kept getting "There was an unexpected error requesting support. Please try again." as the repeated reply.
This...
"Seriously? I need to explain that?
Take a look at the trace, and ask yourself which part it's being flagged for. I can't see it. I'd pull it immediately if I thought it were at all dubious, but it simply isn't. It's stood for the last (almost) six months without any complaint.
Question? Do you think it's possible that the previous holder of a certain KOM segment is a fair weather rider who has only just hauled his bike out of winter storage and is upset that 'his' KOM has disappeared?
There is no other conceivable reason to flag that ride over that route. The bulk of that route I ride often, and you'll see, if you check my data, that it's pretty much a 'normal' ride for me.
Whoever 'flagged' that ride needs to grit his teeth, take a good long swig of "Rule #5" and try harder. Or take up embroidery, as an alternative to cycling.
<"Waaaah! Waaaah! It's not fair, he stole my KOM!"> was not, as far as I was aware, what Strava's 'flag ride' option was invented for.
Thank you for considering my 'appeal' against this wholly unjustified ATTACK ON MY INTEGRITY!
The only thing wrong with that ride data is that the first part of that ride, ie: before the KOM segment, is missing due to my Garmin switching itself off in a rain shower. I restarted the Garmin just before that KOM segment, and the rest of the data is plainly FINE."
...is what I wrote in response, but Strava won't let me submit it. I therefore hit the "trust me, the data is fine" button, and got a "this Flag is resolved" message.
Question? Can whoever flagged it try again, or is it now done and dusted? I'm really not that bothered about the stupid KOM. I lost one to my own son just today (see post above). It's the challenge to my integrity that I object to. Strenuously.
I'd guess your assumption is correct - I can't see anything immediately wrong unless the KOM is a shared path with pedestrians?
The only solution is to send yellowjack junior out on a blatant mission to target his other three KOMs just to really piss him off! I'd say go do it yourself but junior sounds faster and a better candidate for the job!
The only solution is to send yellowjack junior out on a blatant mission to target his other three KOMs just to really piss him off! I'd say go do it yourself but junior sounds faster and a better candidate for the job!
I cant see anything wrong with your trace at all
If youre really bothered delete the ride then upload it again in a couple of days
In the meantime flag everyone else in the top 10 to make sure you get even
Failing that post a query on the Strava website message boards, you should get someone from the company to explain that way
If youre really bothered delete the ride then upload it again in a couple of days
In the meantime flag everyone else in the top 10 to make sure you get even
Failing that post a query on the Strava website message boards, you should get someone from the company to explain that way
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