Strava

[okgo]

No, not really.

Its more that riding from Pirbright area to Wimbledon area at non peak times is hardly what most people associate with commuting in London. 20mph would be a pretty straight forward, somewhat more difficult if you ride into Central at rush hour, though.

[Dizeee]

A statement I would agree 100% with, and had it been put like that a few days ago (rather than the predictable defensive response that followed and air of overall ridicule that accompanied it) something that I would have happily responded to in that light.

[SystemParanoia]

Got a 31kph average on my homebound commute. Newly repairs bikes always feel amazing!
I Normally average about 27kph

http://app.strava.com/activities/409511345

[SystemParanoia]

http://app.strava.com/activities/411642072

Double KOM today.. Yippee.

Not a 20mph average, but nobody gets those every single day anyway.

[lukefreeman]

I did a solo ride on Saturday at a easy pace, completely different from my usual routes up Peaks. Averaged 20mph, but it was flat as a pancake, so don't count.

https://www.strava.com/activities/410165843

Then fell off the turbo trainer today, because I didn't tighten onto QR skewer.......

[Agent XXX]

Bit late to the Strava party (never worked on my old phone) but been using it a week as of today and so far...............

Last 4 Weeks
Avg Rides / Week 3
Avg Distance / Week 52 mi
Avg Time / Week 3h 43m


2015
Distance 209.3 mi
Time 14h 53m
Elev Gain 10,794 ft
Rides 12
All-Time
Distance 209.3 mi
Rides 12
Biggest Ride 27.9 mi
Biggest Climb 483 ft

Loving all the data that can be gained from it!

[loudlashadjuster]

Agent XXX said:

Bit late to the Strava party (never worked on my old phone) but been using it a week as of today and so far...............

Last 4 Weeks
Avg Rides / Week 3
Avg Distance / Week 52 mi
Avg Time / Week 3h 43m


2015
Distance 209.3 mi
Time 14h 53m
Elev Gain 10,794 ft
Rides 12
All-Time
Distance 209.3 mi
Rides 12
Biggest Ride 27.9 mi
Biggest Climb 483 ft

Loving all the data that can be gained from it!

If you like data. allow Veloviewer access to it and have fun

[okgo]

It looks like you have to pay for that to get anything meaningful out of it? I can't work out what its really telling me?

It says I have 2 KOMS, but I've just looked on Strava and there are over 100, so not sure whether its just pulling really recent data (still wrong) ?

Edited by okgo on Tuesday 13th October 11:31

[Agent XXX]

loudlashadjuster said:

If you like data. allow Veloviewer access to it and have fun

Crikey! I like that!!!

[Silver940]

okgo said:

It looks like you have to pay for that to get anything meaningful out of it? I can't work out what its really telling me?

It says I have 2 KOMS, but I've just looked on Strava and there are over 100, so not sure whether its just pulling really recent data (still wrong) ?

Edited by okgo on Tuesday 13th October 11:31

Only does last 10 rides or something now unless you pay.

[okgo]

Silver940 said:

Only does last 10 rides or something now unless you pay.

Ok, I've just paid, so will report back soon.

[okgo]

Blimey, its a bit much isn't it, I don't really know where to start! I've got 37,000 mile worth of data so everything is taking a while..!

What are the best uses for it do you think?

[loudlashadjuster]

In terms of my fitness I find it motivational as I can target improvements in segments where I can see I've performed relatively poorly in the past. Strava doesn't allow slicing and dicing of the data to figure this kind of thing out, but knowing where I can plan to ride to give me a 'boost' in score gives added incentive to ride new or rarely-ridden routes.

Sure, all you're chasing is an ever-higher artificial metric, but underlying that are tangible improvements in fitness and speed over time, and I'll take anything that keeps me motivated to go out and ride.

I'm a database/Excel geek though so this kind of thing attracts me

[okgo]

Yeh I'm finding the best average day/week/month/year good, in terms of power and speed etc, quite interesting. Also I have a KOM that's been ridden 50,000 times, which is news to me!

The score thing seems a bit odd, I'm 99.8 of 99.9 possible yet I see there are people above that?

[Usget]

okgo said:

The score thing seems a bit odd, I'm 99.8 of 99.9 possible yet I see there are people above that?

They are, presumably, the 0.1...

ETA - I like the feature which values your segment placings. Strava doesn't care a fig if you're 11th or 1000th, but VeloViewer will let you know if you are, for example, 24th of 4000 people (which for mere mortals like me is quite an achievement) and will grade it higher than, say, 5th out of 9

Edited by Usget on Tuesday 13th October 13:47

[okgo]

Usget said:

They are, presumably, the 0.1...

Nah i meant above the alleged max score? But either way its quite interesting, worth £10 for a year I guess, but wouldn't be much good without a lot of data to populate it.

[loudlashadjuster]

okgo said:

Yeh I'm finding the best average day/week/month/year good, in terms of power and speed etc, quite interesting. Also I have a KOM that's been ridden 50,000 times, which is news to me!

The score thing seems a bit odd, I'm 99.8 of 99.9 possible yet I see there are people above that?

Depends on the segments you've ridden. You can't get 100/100 on a segment, but the more people that have ridden a segment the closer the KOM will get to 100.

The maths isn't quite as linear as this (I think there's some additional weighting) but the general principle is like this:

((no. of riders + 1) - your position) * 100 / (no. of riders + 1)

2 people have ridden a segment
KOM score = (2+1)-1*100/3 = 66.67

So 66.67 is the score you'll get from a KOM where only two people have ridden a segment. The same calculation for Box Hill will give 99.998 or something, with a nice curve that approaches 100 as the number of attempts goes up.

3 riders = Max = 75.00
4 riders = Max = 80.00
.
.
10 riders = Max = 90.91
etc.

If you're ridden a lot of popular segments then your maximum potential score will be higher than someone who rides uncommon segments. This effectively weights against people riding around making their own illogical segments and bagging loads of worthless KOMs.

For any frequent cyclist the maximum potential is as close to 100 as to make no real difference. I'm still in the 80s so can still see tangible gains, but I appreciate improvements will be increasingly marginal (and therefore less motivating) as the score gets into the high 90s.

Edit: Veloviewer's own (much better!) explanation : http://blog.veloviewer.com/veloviewer-score-how-do...

Edited by loudlashadjuster on Tuesday 13th October 14:03

[okgo]

That makes sense, though it does give me a 100 pos score on a few of the KOMs I have, it looks like if over 20,000 people have done it and you have the KOM you do get 100 as your score, because I have another at 17,000 which is 99.9 - makes sense though I suppose. Won't be many segments with that number of rides against it I suppse

[GaryGlitter]

okgo said:

it looks like if over 20,000 people have done it

I did a couple of climbs from the 2014 TDF route on Saturday, and I thought they were popular:

Cote de Bradfield - 699 people

Cote de Oughtibridge - 2397 people

[Silver940]

Interestingly it seems that loading my data into Veloviewer today has triggered Strava to remind everyone of the KOMS I have taken from them, one mate just got 14 emails!

reminded them all though so suspect a full onslaught from the locals now...

Edited by Silver940 on Wednesday 14th October 09:33